Subscription gaming growth as flattened -Mat Piscatella

[gurf]

I am pretty sure 90 percent is from a negotiation point of view. If I openly stating we have 49 million subscribers, these publishers going to go into demands off the gate with higher expectations. Microsoft can fudge the numbers behind closed doors. That is why when Phil was meeting with Rockstar Take Two CEO, the CEO mention you have over 30 million subscribers right Phil got uncomfortable.

As they should. Kinda crazy you think M$ should fudge the #s to shortchange the developers.

 

[Leasy]

As they should. Kinda crazy you think M$ should fudge the #s to shortchange the developers.

nikka take the fanboy hat off that’s business. When I worked for a prestigious college hospital that had boatloads of money you don’t think they were negotiating lower prices from businesses for equipment inventory etc… That’s business breh.

 

[gurf]

nikka take the fanboy hat off that’s business. When I worked for a prestigious college hospital that had boatloads of money you don’t think they were negotiating lower prices from businesses for equipment inventory etc… That’s business breh.

Nah, not really on my fanboy ish for this one. I simply think the devs/publishers should get paid appropriately. If you don’t agree that’s cool.

I’d assume if you were in the developers/publishers position you’d think the same tho.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Because of the Shareholders. It's not limited to M$.

Shareholders see microsoft as the most valuable company on earth.

and why would it be cool for M$ to withhold numbers and possibly lowball developers? That isn't cool

Devs have the numbers and they say GP has been great to them

 

[gurf]

Shareholders see microsoft as the most valuable company on earth.

Devs have the numbers and they say GP has been great to them

Not disputing that, but we both know that shareholders always want more. It’s never enough

 

[Leasy]

Nah, not really on my fanboy ish for this one. I simply think the devs/publishers should get paid appropriately. If you don’t agree that’s cool.

I’d assume if you were in the developers/publishers position you’d think the same tho.

You never get what your are worth in the business world. The main objective is getting the most you can get. If companies feel as though they would do better on Gamepass and take money upfront plus downloads they would do it.

shyt Sony games would have been more successful in this model. They can’t sell.

 

[gurf]

You never get what your are worth in the business world. The main objective is getting the most you can get. If companies feel as though they would do better on Gamepass and take money upfront plus downloads they would do it.

shyt Sony games would have been more successful in this model. They can’t sell.

You say this, but have no idea how much these devs are making off of gamepass contracts. Take your own advice and remove the fanboy hat for a bit.

 

[King Sun]

You never get what your are worth in the business world. The main objective is getting the most you can get. If companies feel as though they would do better on Gamepass and take money upfront plus downloads they would do it.

shyt Sony games would have been more successful in this model. They can’t sell.

Be a capitalist bootlicker and don't understand basic capitalism brehs.

 

[Leasy]

Be a capitalist bootlicker and don't understand basic capitalism brehs.

You living in America you a bootlicker capitalist. The fukk you think this shyt is. You think because you love your hobby of video games shyt will be fair

Everything is negotiable

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You say this, but have no idea how much these devs are making off of gamepass contracts. Take your own advice and remove the fanboy hat for a bit.

We know virtually all of them say Gamepass has been a positive to the popularity and profitability of their games

 

[gurf]

We know virtually all of them say Gamepass has been a positive to the popularity and profitability of their games

That doesn't have anything to do with what I was replying to, but yea go on.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

That doesn't have anything to do with what I was replying to, but yea go on.

I mean we’ve proven at this point the only reason any of you are down on subscription services is cause microsoft is doing it best.

Even sony’s own CEO has admitted as much.

Not even sure what you are in here arguing for.

Then got the nerve to call other people stans

 

[gurf]

I mean we’ve proven at this point the only reason any of you are down on subscription services is cause microsoft is doing it best.

Even sony’s own CEO has admitted as much.

Not even sure what you are in here arguing for.

Then got the nerve to call other people stans

No, if you paid attention I'm down on sub services across the board. @Leasy and I were discussing withholding numbers during contract talks and you decided to jump in with this stan shyt.

Keep up son

 

[MeachTheMonster]

No, if you paid attention I'm down on sub services across the board. @Leasy and I were discussing withholding numbers during contract talks and you decided to jump in with this stan shyt.

Keep up son

the only reason any of you are down on subscription services is cause microsoft is doing it best.

 

[gurf]

So according to you I'm against Music and Video streaming services due to M$ as well. Got it.