i keep saying you're incorrect cause you're wrong....figured after reading through the thread you wouldve realized the error in the shyt you were saying, but obviously not, so here you go:
- you're wrong about the vision rye had: kylo and luke didnt fight...the vision clearly shows them at the same place at different times....hell, the rain is the key indicator....it's raining when kylo is there, doing whatever he was doing; and it's not when luke is there viewing the aftermath of what he has done....
1.) If the rain being the key indicator that the were in the same place at different times then that is poor cinematography because the flames and destruction surrounded both of them.
- you're wrong about why vader turned to the dark side...he turned to the dark side cause palpatine manipulated his feelings about saving his girl...
being the most powerful, reaching his full potential was never vader's driving force...
2.)read my post again I never said that was Vaders goal. I said that Palpatine was a better teacher than Obiwan and Yoda and that is true because in episode 4,5 and 6 Anakin was using abilites he never displayed under Obiwans tutelage.
- Vader turned to the Darkside because he was mishandled by the Jedi
- When Qui Gon presented him to the council in episode I the Jedi were dismissive of him because they did not belive in the prophecy of the chosen one. and they really didn't care for Qui Gon too much either. hence why he was not on the Council even though he was one of their most powerful.
-They make Anakin a padawan of Obiwan even though Obiwan is not a master and was only made a Jedi Knight out of pity. which further demonstrates the apprehension and lack of respect the Jedi had for him.
-Obi Wan was not finished with his training and was not qualified to even have a padawan.
-In Episode II Anakin kept having visions of his mother in pain and when he went to master Yoda about these visions, Yoda just brushed them off as a bad dream and belittled Anakins concern. It turned out those visions were not just a bad dream but the empathic cries of his mother being tortured to death by Tusken Raiders. He blamed himself and the Jedi for his mothers suffering.
-In Episode III he had more Visions but this time of Padme being in pain. and the only one who would listen to his concerns were senator Palpatine, who promised to teach him how to use the force to bring people back to life. this and the fact the Jedi tried to overthrow the Senate caused Anakin to turn on the Jedi, who never welcomed him in the first place.
- you're wrong about luke not turning to the dark side if he wouldve went after kylo, snoke , and punished them...that's the exact same reason he didnt kill vader: it wouldve turned him to the dark side cause he wouldve been
giving in to anger, an emotion that fuels going to the dark side...
3.)Luke eliminating a threat to the Jedi order is not giving in to anger. if that were the case then the Death of Palpatine, Maul, Dooku and any other Sith Lord should be frowned upon. because according to you killing evil and righting wrongs is not the Jedi way?
Vader showed signs of redemption Kylo Ren does not. Once Anakin found out Luke and Leia were alive he became less Violent and more docile as the movies progressed that is why Palpatine wanted Luke dead. So like I said please dont. .