you're not describing the spirit realm son.
you're describing you taking a chemical, your brain tripping out, and you trying to explain it.
You didn't GO anywhere. Your brain just went haywire on a chemical.
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you're not describing the spirit realm son.
you're describing you taking a chemical, your brain tripping out, and you trying to explain it.
You didn't GO anywhere. Your brain just went haywire on a chemical.
it matters if they're real because it suggests that people do things externally of their brains...and theres no evidence of such a claim.
heisenburrr
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that selective sight of yours is quite something heh
It seems to me you were TOTALLY wrong about dreams having no meaning at all.
So tell me, WHY THE fukk should we accept all of what you say at the TRUTH when you apparently have gaping HOLES in every arguments you make
Oh you're talking about actual demons and shyt? That's not what I mean. I think I get what you're saying. I'm simply talking about learning from the experience that many perceive as "real" (and which may be real, under certain metaphysical viewpoints).
selective sight?that selective sight of yours is quite something heh
It seems to me you were TOTALLY wrong about dreams having no meaning at all.
So tell me, WHY THE fukk should we accept all of what you say at the TRUTH when you apparently have gaping HOLES in every arguments you make
because everything points to the notion that THERE IS NOTHING EXTERNAL about any of this pseudoscientific bullshyt.
http://www.coma.ulg.ac.be/papers/vs/vanhaudenhuyse_NDE2010.pdf
Its all neurological. Its all in your brain.
Dead the debate.
Broke Wave
The GOAT
@Napoleon let's say we had to theorize a rational explanation for Astral Projection, what could it possibly be? I don't think it's real at all but it's interesting to try and think like how could it even be possible without the help of "magic".
Maybe Humans are able to in a dream state accurately predict the outside world and make educated guesses on what's going to happen somewhere else based on sub-consciously picked up information. A friend mentions he's going to eat cheerios and play 2k, you brush it off, remember what he wears at his crib, you astral project to his crib in the dream state and see it vividly but also see the space in between your houses as information you stored in the sub conscious.
plausible?
Maybe Humans are able to in a dream state accurately predict the outside world and make educated guesses on what's going to happen somewhere else based on sub-consciously picked up information. A friend mentions he's going to eat cheerios and play 2k, you brush it off, remember what he wears at his crib, you astral project to his crib in the dream state and see it vividly but also see the space in between your houses as information you stored in the sub conscious.
plausible?
Sums up the debate perfectly
Watch napoleon reiterate what he learned in lecture.
im asking you to think critically yet you are still oblivious to the fact that youve issued two statements that have contradicted each other.
Youre stuck on biology when im asking about a function that has dominion over the biology. But you continue to insist that it is merely biology. Which is a statement that youve pulled directly out of your ass.
thats whats wrong with you boxed in view of what im even talking about. Ive defined spirit to you in a different thread. In short it is a state of being.
So yes, the spirit of a dog allows him to exist in a realm interpreted as smell different than you. Yes an owl exists in an auditory realm different than you.
So when one alters their brain chemistry they now become perceptually (auditory, visual, etc) sensitive to an energy wavelength not of this known material world. Just like some drugs can amplify your hearing, touch, or discerning smell. Some drugs like DMT are so strong they wrap up your whole consciousness into another realm.
By natural example and technology we continue to explore [realms, wavelengths] that we cannot percieve. Who are you to declare its limits?
By you suggesting these realms do not actually exist is in fact, pure speculation.
watch @Ego Eimis misrepresent basic terms he doesn't understand
you're too undereducated on this topic to even understand how to ASK a meaningful question
there is nothing that has dominion over said biology.
the brain is all there is. theres nothing working over it.
...ok. fine. "being" whatever.
NO
fukkING
NO
Thats not "realm" jackass.
HUMANS COULD smell as well as dogs if we have the same receptors attuned to the same sensitivity. We just don't
Thats the point.
ITS BIOLOGY, STUPID
altering your perception of your local environment DOES NOT mean youre engaging in a different environment.
you keep talking about realms dude. what the fukk man.
there are no realms. there is only the ability to sense aspects of the universe.
be that taste, touch, sight, etc.
so why try and come up with a way to explain something if you don't think its real?
You DO think its real, you just don't wanna be on the hook for doing the mental grunt work of figuring it out.
this is a pointless exercise.
If the phenomena is real, then figure it out. If not, then you're trying to prove something you can't even demonstrate.
sounds like evolution of a highly evolved brain to me.
A friend mentions he's going to eat cheerios and play 2k, you brush it off, remember what he wears at his crib, you astral project to his crib in the dream state and see it vividly but also see the space in between your houses as information you stored in the sub conscious.
thats what it usually sounds like to me.
people remember little tidbits of things and incorporate them into the most plausible scenarios and after the fact try to fit their information to their experiences. its totally working backwards.
I'm switching shyt up, but still kinda relevant
Thoughts on an infinite "god" within oneself or outside of oneself?
Thoughts on an infinite "god" within oneself or outside of oneself?
heisenburrr
Have Fun Staying Poor
but is it such an impossible strech of the imagination to suggest that, spiritual entities, manifest themselves in our environment, in such rare or circumstantial occasions that we cannot simply "figure it out" and prove it in a scientific empirical manner with the tools that our available to us in this present time
oh goddamn it.
just drop the fukking concept.
humanity needs to progress dude. its almost 2013.
