spiderman vs venom/carnage saga was dope.
Batman the animated series was GOAT, but dont sleep on Spiderman. Right now as long as Disney doesn't fukk around and mess it up, Ultimate Spiderman could be something epic.
I was never as into any of the Marvel cartoons because of the shytty,overly melodramatic voice acting. My top 3 would be Batman, Justice League and Gargoyles.
IMO Gargoyles is the greatest cartoon ever. It combined the best elements of Batman (voice acting, gothic feel, quality animation, great episodes) and upped it up a notch with complex villains, complex storytelling and blood and violence. If you don't believe Gargoyles > Batman, watch City of Stone I-IV. It was very mature.
Other great cartoons to me were Dungeons & Dragons, Duck Tales, Darkwing, Animaniacs, Looney Toons, JLU, Rugrats, Scooby-Doo, Tale Spin (that Disney block was serious), Muppet Babies, The Tick...a few more. They all are timeless and have entertainment for all ages.
X-Men and Spider-Man has the same flaws, bad animation, cartoony acting, some dumb a$$ episodes. Spider-Man has some good qualities though; it gave a physical embodiment of Jameson, it had great storylines (Six Forgotten Warriors; Neogenic Nightmare, Secret Wars, Sinister Six), it had a great voice for Peter's inner monologue...at no point did you think Peter wouldn't think like that...AND most importantly, it showed the MU as a whole with F4, Blade, Punisher, Captain America, Daredevil, Dr. Strange, X-Men, Iron Man, War Machine, Stan Lee...
Btas xmen and Ronan warriors
I thought I was the only person who noticed this shyt....
The voice actors doing the work are actually some of the best in the business but their work on those marvel shows was SO over the top. Like I said in an earlier post I blame the directors.
A lot of the stuff you're praising Gargoyles for was also present in B:TAS. B:TAS was much more episodic in nature and lacked some of the Violence Gargoyles had. There were episodes of B:TAS that were far more dark and mature than what Gargoyles was doing though.
I got Gargoyles as #2 behind the entire Timm-verse.
Oh and one thing that Spider-Man and the Marvel stuff never get credit for is that they had a shared Universe well before the expansion of the Timm-verse. Iron Man, Fantastic Four, X-Men, Spider-Man nd Incredible Hulk all took place in the same Universe.
Ronin Warriors were some bytch ass nikkas. In 40 episodes, did them nikkas ever even get a W?
I used to get so annoyed with X-Men because it seemed like every episode had Cyclops or Wolverine shouting "Jean!" like Brando in Streetcar Named Desire. It had some of the worst voice acting ever. That second Fantastic Four series was better than X-Men and all the Marvel stuff paled in comparison to the DC Timmverse shows. I would even rank the Disney adventure shows like Darkwing Duck and Rescue Rangers over the Marvel shows.I thought I was the only person who noticed this shyt....
The voice actors doing the work are actually some of the best in the business but their work on those marvel shows was SO over the top. Like I said in an earlier post I blame the directors.
A lot of the stuff you're praising Gargoyles for was also present in B:TAS. B:TAS was much more episodic in nature and lacked some of the Violence Gargoyles had. There were episodes of B:TAS that were far more dark and mature than what Gargoyles was doing though.
I got Gargoyles as #2 behind the entire Timm-verse.
Oh and one thing that Spider-Man and the Marvel stuff never get credit for is that they had a shared Universe well before the expansion of the Timm-verse. Iron Man, Fantastic Four, X-Men, Spider-Man nd Incredible Hulk all took place in the same Universe.