Sony stan Explains why Gamepass and MS/Activision merger is bad for the industry
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No. Do you know how many companies have tried and failed to create a successful home console? Microsoft is in this position because they have persisted where normal companies would have dropped out of the market already.
Sony didn't get to where they are because they simply entered the market and put out good games. There was a seismic shift from third party developers from Nintendo to Sony in the PS1 generation. Their development was fostered by that industry wide shift they enjoyed for a whole console generation plus. They didn't usurp Nintendo by simply putting out good games.
The market leader always enjoys that level of dominance. Sega put out good games and didn't crush Nintendo either.
Marci-Senpai
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No it’s not…anything else u wanna say while the floor is open?Is that another phrase for "weird fakkit?"
I think the more interesting question is how many acquisitions should Microsoft be allowed to make before people feel like it's a problem?
They said they had another $70 billion set aside for acquisitions, they can technically buy every large publisher and developer willing to sell and have money left over. At what point should someone step in? Or would the gaming industry be better if everything was consolidated into a few huge corporations.
They said they had another $70 billion set aside for acquisitions, they can technically buy every large publisher and developer willing to sell and have money left over. At what point should someone step in? Or would the gaming industry be better if everything was consolidated into a few huge corporations.
Please help me understand how am entire post of "But y'all weren't made when Sony did it!" isn't just you complaining about Sony, breh.
Your argument about hubris and arrogance played out the very next generation with Microsoft. They had a very successful generation during the previous cycle, and thought that the market would automatically accept their vision for the XBox One. Their plan to recover from it just didn't truly start paying off until recently.
Basically, arguments like the one laid out in this one are simply stating that Microsoft employing the standard giant company approach to gaming is concerning because there's no real evidence that this approach ends with the customer retaining a variety of viable options. At a macro level, this isn't all that different from Microsoft wanting a serious foothold in the messaging space, and buying and integrating Skype instead of improving Live Messenger and Office Communicator. Matter of fact, Gamepass itself isn't an entirely unique approach for Microsoft. It's really just falling in line with the rest of Microsoft's approach to services.
But Nintendo effectively made that choice FOR the developers by choosing to stick with cartridges in that generation, though. It wasn't like Sony, who was new to the space in that generation, just went around forcing developers to tell Nintendo to fukk off.
My point is there needs to be a company there to be counter to Sony. Nintendo after the Gamecube decided to go in another direction. The only way we get a strong competitor to Sony in any reasonable time is exactly what Microsoft is doing.
This isn't a field that you just quietly enter and simply put out games and people abandon their platform of choice for you. If you don't have big IPs you're finished before you start. If the market leader isn't making some sort of colossal mistake the chance to be competitive isn't going to happen unless you can get major IPs under your belt that they won't have like what happened with Sony and Nintendo.
Nobody can point to any company in this space after its creation that just made good games and found success without some sort of major shift in the market or without the assistance of gimmicks. So what people are saying Microsoft should have done is disengenious.
Even with Nintendo, strip away the attention grabbing gimmicks and you're left with the Wii U when they don't land. Good games on a box and dead in the water.
Microsoft will dominate with this game pass shyt the deal is too good. In the future who knows.. Maybe Amazon, Apple, Google, Facebook will buy Sony and go head to head with Microsoft.. Anything is possible. Nintendo should be on the phone with Sony because i believe once that Xcloud shyt hits.. It's gonna be a new day..
There's nothing to indicate they'll dominate. Ain't like Sony can't flip the switch and put their exclusives on PSNow day 1 if ut gets to that point (the same PSNow that's been out longer than Gamepass).The same Gamepass that isn't profitable yet either.
They'll be fine
This is the reason they're gonna get away with it. They have been losing so long they are playing the victim saying "Even with this acquisition, we're still in third place" The truth is they're in first place right now because the Bethesda/Act/Blizz purchase but it still looks like they're losing because the past and how well PS5 is doing. As long as they can say "we're in third place" they will be allowed to buy these companies. By the time people start getting worried, it'll be too late.
So........this IS about Sony? We really walked all the way around the block to go down the street on this one.
Saying no one is successful without a market shift or gimmick is silly. The market can shift based on the products being offered. For example, the XBox 360 got off to a great start based on the quality of the games that could be found there when compared to what the PS3 came out the gate with. Where things started being a problem is that Microsoft struggled with growing their portfolio of exclusive games, while Sony managed to have some of the stuff they were throwing at the wall stick, allowing for them to mix it up a bit.
Changing the game from "we can make a better product than you" to "we can spend more money than you" is where people start to get concerned. That plays out in a lot of varieties of business, and in a lot of those cases, there's a shift where the customer ends up being effected.
It's why it's laughable seeing people toss around the idea that Microsoft buying these companies is somehow them being saved from being swallowed by Big Tech, as if that isn't Microsoft too. How the fukk are YOU gonna save someone from YOU?
You have to be blind, deaf , and dumb to think anything can compete with gamepass. Why would anyone stay with Sony when you're getting Call of Duty, The Elder Scrolls, Overwatch, Halo, Gears, Forza, Blizzard games, Activision games, bethesda games, DAY 1.. You get 10 hr EA trials DAY 1.It's the most broken system ever. God Of War drops once every couple years. Call Of Duty drops every November and it's the #1 seller every year. You're a grown man denying the inevitable.
Pull Up the Roots
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In what universe is Adam Conover a Sony stan?
Brian O'Conner
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They are a bunch of soulless corporate hacks like Steve Jobs said.
None of the them are seem like real gamers. E3, whatever convention event they do. They look like posers who are not really into games at all, just want a piece of the pie $$$
Xbox series x is also a very cheaply made and thought out system. It's just a steam box that plays pc games on mid to high settings. The controller , the ui ,the game selection. It's all second class
None of the them are seem like real gamers. E3, whatever convention event they do. They look like posers who are not really into games at all, just want a piece of the pie $$$
Xbox series x is also a very cheaply made and thought out system. It's just a steam box that plays pc games on mid to high settings. The controller , the ui ,the game selection. It's all second class
You have to be blind, deaf , and dumb to think anything can compete with gamepass. Why would anyone stay with Sony when you're getting Call of Duty, The Elder Scrolls, Overwatch, Halo, Gears, Forza, Blizzard games, Activision games, bethesda games, DAY 1.. You get 10 hr EA trials DAY 1.It's the most broken system ever. God Of War drops once every couple years. Call Of Duty drops every November and it's the #1 seller every year. You're a grown man denying the inevitable.
The facts say otherwise
And nothing is stopping the leading videogame publisher on the planet from doing the same thing gamepass is doing
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
the thing about microsoft is they don't really have any real gamers behind the scenes. Phil Spencer pretends to be one by we know he's just a suit in a gamer tee. They don't have a big brain like Cerny calling the shots, that really know what they're talking about