Someone in the comments asked if the NOI is a Lightskin cult

[invalid]

Can somebody verify if I’m correct in what it’s sounds like I’m hearing from these clips?

It’s sounds like, from Nuri and the other guy, that although black America reveres Malcolm X, the NOI don’t fukk with him like that, and after all these years, we’re not remorseful at the fact that we may have had a hand in taking him out, even though we didn’t wink wink. And, in fact, taking him out was a part of Allah’s plan, because it brought more people to the NOI than what anyone else could have done otherwise. And, if we hypothetically were responsible for killing him, knowing what we know now doesn’t change the fact that to the NOI, X is a traitor, and we would do the same thing again because we don’t give af what he meant to black America.

Are those the correct sentiments I’m getting? Because if it is, that seems equally traitorous to black America.

X may have been beholden to the NOI but the NOI sounds like it forgot that it’s beholden to black America.

 

[Noriega]

Im black tho

And Malcolm said exactly the same thing aswell as wallace deen muhammad

Wallace Deen Muhammad was trying to lead the NOI to mainstream Islam. Farrakhan shut all that shyt down when he became the head

 

[Apollo Creed]

Can somebody verify if I’m correct in what it’s sounds like I’m hearing from these clips?

It’s sounds like, from Nuri and the other guy, that although black America reveres Malcolm X, the NOI don’t fukk with him like that, and after all these years, we’re not remorseful at the fact that we may have had a hand in taking him out, even though we didn’t wink wink. And, in fact, taking him out was a part of Allah’s plan, because it brought more people to the NOI than what anyone else could have done otherwise. And, if we hypothetically were responsible for killing him, knowing what we know now doesn’t change the fact that to the NOI, X is a traitor, and we would do the same thing again because we don’t give af what he meant to black America.

Are those the correct sentiments I’m getting? Because if it is, that seems equally traitorous to black America.

X may have been beholden to the NOI but the NOI sounds like it forgot that it’s beholden to black America.

You do understand the NOI is a “nation” in itself thus the “black America” thing doesn’t really mean anything to them.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Wallace Deen Muhammad was trying to lead the NOI to mainstream Islam. Farrakhan shut all that shyt down when he became the head

Lol no. WD Mohammed ended the NOI of old, and Farrahkhan started a new org in I believe 84 which is the NOI we know of today.

 

[Noriega]

Lol no. WD Mohammed ended the NOI of old, and Farrahkhan started a new org in I believe 84 which is the NOI we know of today.

So the NOI that Malcolm, Ali etc were once apart of is not the same org that exist today

 

[Reece]

white people are the off springs of Africans and Neaderthals though. They weren't just Africans who transformed out of nowhere. And "White" is a social construct.

If this was true, why are there blonde haired and blue eyed Africans? Africans who had close to no admixture with non-Africans. Africans have the most genetic diversity of all races. We have everything in us already. This has been proven ad-nauseum Diet, seclusion, sunlight and weather changed people’s appearance over time. What you just suggested was that only Neanderthals possessed the genes for lighter skin and lighter eye colors which is just false. And they died out over 25,000 years ago. People in Europe were still dark as recent as 6,000 B.C.

 

[Apollo Creed]

If this was true, why are there blonde haired and blue eyed Africans? Africans who had close to no admixture with non-Africans. Africans have the most genetic diversity of all races. We have everything in us already. This has been proven ad-nauseum Diet, seclusion, sunlight and weather changed people’s appearance over time. What you just suggested was that only Neanderthals possessed the genes for lighter skin and lighter eye colors which is just false. And they died out over 25,000 years ago. People in Europe were still dark as recent as 6,000 B.C.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

And dont forget how Farrakhan ushered L Ron Hubbard’s bs into the nation. Farrakhan was sucking off that devil HARD while doing speeches

 

[Apollo Creed]

So the NOI that Malcolm, Ali etc were once apart of is not the same org that exist today

No. Not in the literal sense. Most followed Elijahs son Wallace when he died. Wallace converted these folks to Sunni Islam. There were a segment who grew dissatisfied and Farrakhan “brought back” the NOI of old. There were a few other splinter groups after Elijah died i.e New Nation of Islam

 

[MR. Conclusion]

Too many question marks for me. At a minimum the NOI has bad P.R.

Is there any statistical evidence of their positive measurable impact to black communities?

 

[invalid]

You do understand the NOI is a “nation” in itself thus the “black America” thing doesn’t really mean anything to them.

How can one be a nation with no autonomy over oneself? Does the US government defer matters pertaining to NOI over to the NOI like it does with other entities that it recognizes as nations such as the historic indigenous tribes?

NOI at its base level is a black self-help organization fronting as a religious movement. It is a reason why most of its converts come from jail and not from college.

Fard/Elijah Muhammad were no different from the Father Divines, Daddy Graces, Malachi Zs, Clarence 13Xs, and etc, and etc..

 

[Apollo Creed]

How can one be a nation with no autonomy over oneself? Does the US government defer matters pertaining to NOI over to the NOI like it does with other entities that it recognizes as nations such as the historic indigenous tribes?

NOI at its base level is a black self-help organization fronting as a religious movement. It is a reason why most of its converts come from jail and not from college.

Fard/Elijah Muhammad were no different from the Father Divines, Daddy Graces, Malachi Zs, Clarence 13Xs, and etc, and etc..

i cant even have this convo because you’re ignorant to the actual teachings of Elijah Muhammad yet trying to speak as an authority.

carry on

 

[Remote]

This gif is fantastic.

 

[DaRealness]

SMH...that ain't nothing but self hatred talk

That's one of the reasons the 5% Nation seperated themselves from the INSECURE worshipping ideology of the NOI

he is basically validating the racist perception prepetrated by the Ham curse myth of the Old testament....

Old videos but I always wondered what the NOI and 5% Nation thought of each other.

 

[iamduval]

Most civil rights leaders were light skin.

Frederick Douglas
Rosa Parks
Huey Newton
Malcolm X

Then the rest were brown skin like MLK and Fred Hampton.

I can't really think of any that were dark skin.

Fair skin gets you in front of the camera.