So What Should Obama have done for black people?

[Skrilla]

Something

 

[Skrilla]

Of course I think we're owed it, but now it's not feasible. It's too late for all that. fukk handouts, that shyt is making us comfortable, it's time to go out and grind.

What "handouts" have Black Americans gotten? Nobody ever gave us shyt. And we've BEEN grinding, we always grind, or we don't eat.

I don't think we're gonna get what we deserve, that's a pipe dream at this point, but it's not because we've gotten "comfortable", it's because cacs want us to stay in a lower position. The only critique I have of us in this aspect is we need to be more tight knit as a race and pool resources together, rid ourselves of our individualistic mentalities, and build together as much as possible. It will be difficult but it's our only option at this point

 

[SmokyQuartz]

how do u reform police? im confused

For starters actually give a fukk. He does not so theirs no use of talking about. We just have to be like the boys in black instead

 

[EndDomination]

yea thats the point....

nobody was sayin they were AFRICAN AMERICAN before jesse jackson....

if reparations ever happened alotta white folks could call themselves AAs wit the one drop rule...

like all the 5 dollar indians that came outta nowhere back in the day

but with NEGRO, theres no confusion... cuz black folks were enslaved for one reason only, thats skin color...

with this bill they dont recognize that classification no more....

so the federal government cant be obligated to pay out reparations to a people that "legally" dont exist....

this aint bout obama not doin anything... hes gone outta his way to shyt on black folks...

None of what you're saying is true
"Negro" applies in the exact same way as "African-American," it doesn't change historical context at all, its referring to the exact same group, both legally and historically.
If reparations did become a possibility, they would be doled out to "African-Americans" the exact same group as "Negro."

 

[EducatedBrothaFromTheBank]

for starters , actually mention the word "black"

Obama defends Black Lives Matter protests at police memorial in Dallas

Obama defends Black Lives Matter protests at police memorial in Dallas

 

[ahdsend]

None of what you're saying is true
"Negro" applies in the exact same way as "African-American," it doesn't change historical context at all, its referring to the exact same group, both legally and historically.
If reparations did become a possibility, they would be doled out to "African-Americans" the exact same group as "Negro."

i hope u right...

wouldnt put anything past them tho..

cause it aint gonna be cheap..


http://www.newsweek.com/slavery-reparations-could-cost-14-trillion-according-new-calculation-364141

Slavery Reparations Could Cost Up to $14 Trillion, According to New Calculation

In 1865, toward the end of the Civil War, Union Army General William Tecumseh Sherman promised slaves that they’d receive 40 acres and a mule. Land was even set aside, but the promise was recanted by President Andrew Johnson. Ever since, the issue of reparations has come up many times, often fiercely debated. Although most Americans generally don’t support reparations, according to University of Connecticut researcher Thomas Craemer, it matters greatly how the question is worded, who would get reparations and in what form. For example, the idea of reparations paid in educational benefits are more popular than others, Craemer says.

On the other hand, one of the cases often made against reparations is that it'd be impractically difficult to calculate how to fairly take and give so many years after the fact. But in a new paper, published in the journal Social Science Quarterly, Craemer makes the case that there are other examples of historical reparations paid many decades later after “damages” were incurred. He also has come up with what he says is the most economically sound estimate to date of what reparations could cost: between $5.9 trillion and $14.2 trillion.

Craemer came up with those figures by tabulating how many hours all slaves—men, women and children—worked in the United States from when the country was officially established in 1776 until 1865, when slavery was officially abolished. He multiplied the amount of time they worked by average wage prices at the time, and then a compounding interest rate of 3 percent per year (more than making up for inflation). There is a range because the amount of time worked isn’t a hard figure.

Previous estimates of reparations have ranged from around $36 billion to $10 trillion (in 2009 dollars), Craemer says. Those calculations mostly looked at wealth created by slaves as opposed to services provided, resulting in underestimates. Craemer believes that “the economic assumptions underlying [his method] are more sound” than those used in previous papers.

The paper also illustrates several historical examples in which reparations were paid, many decades later, despite being initially unpopular—showing that repayment of age-old claims is not without precedent.

One example is the case of “French spoliation claims.” During “a seven-year period from 1793 to 1800…France attacked American ships in retaliation for the United States’s neutral stance in the war between France and Britain,” Craemer writes. Though France refused to pay for the damage they caused to people’s property during the war, hundreds of Americans sued their own federal government anyway, arguing that the hostilities, and damages, were ultimately the responsibility of the United States. They claimed that France was retaliating for the United States’s failure to pay back the European country for the support it gave to the U.S. during the Revolutionary War. By 1910, after decades of debate, the United States eventually agreed to pay back $1 million in claims ($38 million in today’s dollars) to hundreds of its own citizens.

Robert Westley, a professor at Tulane University who wasn’t involved in the paper, says that this and other examples can be used to refute arguments that slavery reparations would necessarily be too difficult to figure out. The French spoliation claims and others “were made and demanded over many generations,” he says. “Somehow problems of proof were not insurmountable in those cases, and shouldn't be in the case of the United States with slavery.”

Craemer also makes a case in the paper that the stimulus packages paid for by the government after the 2008 financial collapse were unpopular, but thought to be necessary at the time. If reparations were perceived as necessary for righting a past wrong, as some argue, then perhaps the public would back them. Craemer’s assumption, of course, is that the government would pay for reparations, since it allowed slavery to exist, and slaveholders were, after all, acting in accordance with the law at the time.

Part of Craemer’s interest in the issue of reparations derives from his upbringing in Germany, a country that agreed to pay reparations to Jewish victims of the Nazis. As of 2012, Germany had paid $89 billion in such compensation.

“I grew up with this guilt complex about the Holocaust, and I remember kind of feeling good that my country paid reparations,” Craemer says. When the policy was first put forward, there was a lot of resistance, he says. He sees some parallels with slavery reparations in the U.S., and thinks that such a move has the potential to help race relations.

“Reparations will never bring one life back, and it’s totally inadequate to the terror of the [past], but having a meaningful symbol of reparations is a good thing, not just for recipients but for the people who provide it,” he says.

Both Craemer and Westley point out that the number is just an estimate and not set in stone.

“To me the important point is not the number, but the dialogue” it starts, Westley says, “a negotiation about [righting] this historical wrong.”

 

[8WON6]

A lot of these things he did to "help blacks" were available to everyone or they were like initiatives where some group "reached out" to "minorities". I'm actually an Obama supporter, but I'm still not going to say these things exclusively helped blacks. People keep trying use shyt like the ACA but it was for everybody. The closest thing is MBK and that helps but it looks to be from private dollars. But it it does help I guess. But all this other shyt...

 

[Bolzmark]

A lot of these things he did to "help blacks" were available to everyone or they were like initiatives where some group "reached out" to "minorities". I'm actually an Obama supporter, but I'm still not going to say these things exclusively helped blacks. People keep trying use shyt like the ACA but it was for everybody. The closest thing is MBK and that helps but it looks to be from private dollars. But it it does help I guess. But all this other shyt...

What law to "exclusively" help blacks would you like to see implemented?

 

[ViShawn]

I don't think we will ever have a president for US.

It will always be For The People

 

[Dameon Farrow]

Open a dialogue on reparations

This is what folks will never understand. Dude never even made an attempt to do shyt. Him leaving office and never even trying speaks volumes. He shouldn't get a pass for not even trying. Kiss my ass with that.

 

[Birnin Zana]

This is what folks will never understand. Dude never even made an attempt to do shyt. Him leaving office and never even trying speaks volumes. He shouldn't get a pass for not even trying. Kiss my ass with that.

The problem is, he was never for reparations. Like, ever.

When he ran in 2008, that was one issue he was not in favor of. And he didn't budge. From the looks of it, he still hasn't either.

 

[homiedontplaydat]

The way Obama addresses the black community is apart of the problem I have with him. "Cousin pookie", and asking favors from us to secure his legacy like the black community has been his main area of concern during his presidency.

I understand what he can't do, which is pretty much been his excuse to the black community these 8 years.....he apparently has no power to help us directly. What I wouldve liked to have seen more of is smoke signals from him to the black community. Let us know that you see this shyt that we're dealing with, some coded language if u will. When an unarmed black person was killed on his watch I wish he spoke more to US than THE COLLECTIVE of this country..... regardless of whether he could do anything. Hes been scared to death to talk to us directly.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Obama should have at the very least made the war on drugs a top priority during his tenure.

 

[Originalman]

Other special interest and constituent groups have an organized agenda and demand things from those in power.

Black people on the other hand have debates as to if they should ask for anything for their unwavering support.

 

[Originalman]

Obama awarded 1.2 billion dollars to Black Farmers who were denied loans from the agricultural department due to discrimination,

He signed an executive order that expanded funding for HBCUs.

He signed the Crack Cocaine bill( Fair sentencing act)

Passed the Affordable care act.

Created the civil rights division of the Justice Department

https://www.google.com/amp/newsone....nts-for-black-america-wiki/amp/?client=safari

Good info but the civil rights division has existed since 1957 and was formed after the civil rights act of 1957.