So What Should Obama have done for black people?

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This is the question always asked of those who say Obama did nothing for black people, but I haven't heard an answer yet as to what he could have done that would have been both legal, and able to get through a Congress determined to see him fail.
The answer is to atleast attempt

Like gah damm
How bout legislation to stop police mudering people of color
Hell people in general

Instead he came with legislation to protect the fukking cops :dead:
 

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I'm not even american and I know the easiest step would have been to get the office of the white house to apologise for slavery (This would mean a formal apology by the US). Want to know why? Because that legalizes things for reparations.

I've always wanted to ask Americans how much they think is necessary for reparation, I see you lot always calling for it, but never actually agreeing to a sum. What if it's a mere $400? Then you lot will say that's too little. There is absolutely no way they could give out 10k, that would cause instant inflation. So what do you lot propose? Very easy to ask for money, much harder to agree on a reasonable sum. Such a disorganised group of people. :smh:
"a handful of people taking advantage of the situation, and they should be treated as criminals."
The grouping (if you're a person who is actually involved in protesting) that did a chunk of the looting and destruction were white Leftists as well as other groups that didn't appear to have been a part of the initial protests.
and how do you know that's not exactly who he was talking about? :what:
 

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Those trade programs already exist in community colleges. Lower-income black people can apply for a Pell Grant to cover their tuition and book expenses. Obama increased the PELL GRANT award this year. Unfortunately, there are many black men who are living in proverty are not taking advantage of the benefits of enrolling in a community college. :francis: And we wonder why black men have the highest unemployment rate :heh:
AAs want free money not work. Rather get that paper than have to read papers. Notice not a single person said free university, education would elevate your tribe up and make you very qualified for the top tier work forces. An intelligent educated group is much more powerful than a stupid group with temporary money they'll spend on cac companies. It's better to educate, create a foundation/grass root, so you actually have a place to spend the money (black corporations, stores, schools) instead of having a bunch of money and giving it right back to cacs.
 

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The answer is to atleast attempt

Like gah damm
How bout legislation to stop police mudering people of color
Hell people in general

Instead he came with legislation to protect the fukking cops :dead:
Think about what you said. "Come up with legislation to stop police from MURDERING people of color". You do realize it's already illegal to MURDER anybody everywhere right? These instances are failures at the state level. Police investigating themselves. DA's who are essentially part of the same team failing to prosecute. Describe this law you propose Obama should introduce. "It is hereby from this day forward illegal for any police officer to murder someone"? C'mon man. Think.
 

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I'm not even american and I know the easiest step would have been to get the office of the white house to apologise for slavery (This would mean a formal apology by the US). Want to know why? Because that legalizes things for reparations.

I've always wanted to ask Americans how much they think is necessary for reparation, I see you lot always calling for it, but never actually agreeing to a sum. What if it's a mere $400? Then you lot will say that's too little. There is absolutely no way they could give out 10k, that would cause instant inflation. So what do you lot propose? Very easy to ask for money, much harder to agree on a reasonable sum. Such a disorganised group of people. :smh:

and how do you know that's not exactly who he was talking about? :what:
Congress Apologizes for Slavery, Jim Crow
 

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Think about what you said. "Come up with legislation to stop police from MURDERING people of color". You do realize it's already illegal to MURDER anybody everywhere right? These instances are failures at the state level. Police investigating themselves. DA's who are essentially part of the same team failing to prosecute. Describe this law you propose Obama should introduce. "It is hereby from this day forward illegal for any police officer to murder someone"? C'mon man. Think.
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think about what YOU are saying

it is already illegal to murder cops

yet obama came up with new legislation to protect cops MORE and punish those who act against cops more severely
even if it is just civilians protecting themselves against reckless cops


u cant be fukking serious:stopitslime:
 

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Comprehensive Police Reform (reduction of federal militarization through executive order)
Reduction of the Defense budget to fund job training for infrastructural updates. (nigh on impossible I know)
Executive order for the Department of Justice to have temporary oversight departments with long histories of racial bias.

All still far-fetched as hell.

Outside of that there is nothing he really COULD have done. Part of the problem is that the latino communities and LGBT communities had legislation already in the pipeline with very specific demands (DREAM Act and the Repeal of the DOMA) until Black people have VERY, PAINFULLY specific piece of legislation we will NEVER see that level of progress.

If we picked ONE issue such as "Federal funding for police training against racial bias" or "no more private prisons" or something else then don't expect progress. Simple as that...we have no rallying law/legislation.
 

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think about what YOU are saying

it is already illegal to murder cops

yet obama came up with new legislation to protect cops MORE and punish those who act against cops more severely
even if it is just civilians protecting themselves against reckless cops


u cant be fukking serious:stopitslime:
Damm dude you need to do some research. The bill he signed is called the "Blue Alert Law". The law simply states that when a threat is made to police, it is to be communicated across the country, and the person or persons who made the threat should be made known. That's it. WOW he really went out on a fukkin limb for cops. You have made it into some whole other shyt. Google is your friend breh.

You can't be fukkin serious.:martin:
 

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Damm dude you need to do some research. The bill he signed is called the "Blue Alert Law". The law simply states that when a threat is made to police, it is to be communicated across the country, and the person or persons who made the threat should be made known. That's it. WOW he really went out on a fukkin limb for cops. You have made it into some whole other shyt. Google is your friend breh.

You can't be fukkin serious.:martin:
so did he sign one to protect civilians:ohhh:

and that bill is being used to arrest civilians just for expressing disdain and the ideal of retaliation towards cops

:stopitslime:


you cant be fukking serious
 

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Comprehensive Police Reform (reduction of federal militarization through executive order)
Reduction of the Defense budget to fund job training for infrastructural updates. (nigh on impossible I know)
Executive order for the Department of Justice to have temporary oversight departments with long histories of racial bias.

All still far-fetched as hell.

Outside of that there is nothing he really COULD have done. Part of the problem is that the latino communities and LGBT communities had legislation already in the pipeline with very specific demands (DREAM Act and the Repeal of the DOMA) until Black people have VERY, PAINFULLY specific piece of legislation we will NEVER see that level of progress.

If we picked ONE issue such as "Federal funding for police training against racial bias" or "no more private prisons" or something else then don't expect progress. Simple as that...we have no rallying law/legislation.

Breh, it's not as if the Latino community and other communities asked specifically for those specific executive orders or specific bills Obama enacted or openly supported in there behalf. They usually have a general demand and are simply very pushy about it.

For example, the Latinos asked Obama to not deport entire families when once of them was undocumented. Obama first said that wasn't possible, that he is only president and that there's only so much he can do. You know...the same shyt he tells black people all the damn time.

Then suddenly, to the surprise of everyone...DACA and DAPA are enacted via executive order by Obama. Said executive order have been challenged from a constitutional standpoint and the Obama administration knew it was a possibility both orders could be struck down. Yet, he signed off on it anyway.

Same principles applies to the Dream Act. Latino community wants a general demand: no deportation for people who came to the country illegal when they were children. It's not as if it was the Latino community that came up with that exactly piece of legislation. It was congress who came up with that idea.

The bottomline is, it is the politician's responsibility to come up with the specific ideas to solve problems. That is their job. That is what they were elected for. Not to mention, that is literally--at least in theory--their expertise. They are the ones who know the nuts and bolts of local, state, and/or federal law, not your average civilian.

The difference between black people and the latino voting bloc, for example, is that the latinos are far more pushy about their demands and put pressure on their politicians. The same Obama who said--and I'm paraphrasing here--that he couldn't just pull an executive order to mitigate the immigration situation out of nowhere...literally did just that, TWICE. Why? Because the latinos were putting pressure on him and the dems and the Dems didn't want to fight for the latino vote heavy during election time and preferred nabbing it right then and there.

Meanwhile, the black voting bloc simply let's shyt slide over and over and over again. We vote democrat out of habit, not because they do shyt for us like that. To make matters worse, we don't even check the politicians we support. Once we vote for said politician, we don't do shyt. And in some cases, those that do try to check said politician, and Obama in particular, gets attacked and shamed.

Reality is, most black people were just happy that he was in the white house. We didn't treat him like an elected official, we treated him almost like a celebrity. And he knew it.

To answer the thread's question, I simply wanted Obama to treat black people the way he treats everyone else. Problem is, he knows that he has the black vote in the bag, thus he doesn't feel the need to do shyt specifically for us, aside for giving us a few (possibly condescending) speeches though. So why should he do anything for us specifically, when he knows damn well that he can pretty much get away with not doing a damn thing, and that people will defend him on the daily for his non-actions?
 
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