SMH @ T-Pain's opinion of Aaliyah

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He's right though. I don't know why nikkas act like it's unfathomable that Aaliyah could have fallen off when Brandy and Monica were waaaay bigger than Aaliyah at the time and they both fell off.

They praise Aaliyah like she was a superstar yet act like Brandy never even existed when Brandy's career absolutely shyts on Aaliyah's. That death boost is real.

T-Pain didn't say half of what people are taking from his comments though. He didn't say Aaliyah was "mediocre", "couldn't sing", "wasn't that attractive" etc. When you listen and look at what he said and the context of it all, it's basically: "People act like Aaliyah was untouchable and those same people would think differently if she were alive today". As usual, people have taken something and twisted it to fit their own agenda. All of the negative comments about her looks and talent are uncalled for. Not necessarily directed at you, but that's what I see happening in this thread.

In regard to Brandy, people don't act like Brandy and Monica didn't exist. You had Brandy and Monica selling more albums, but when you're on a Hip Hop forum, of course Aaliyah is going to be discussed to a greater degree. Her sound and look appealed more to a Hip Hop audience than Brandy and Monica. Yeah, they had songs that had a Hip Hop sound, but Aaliyah's whole albums were like that for the most part. Her death has little to do with it. Their sophomore albums really drew the lines, because One In A Million had a harder sound than Never Say Never and The Boy Is Mine.
 

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T-Pain didn't say half of what people are taking from his comments though. He didn't say Aaliyah was "mediocre", "couldn't sing", "wasn't that attractive" etc. When you listen and look at what he said and the context of it all, it's basically: "People act like Aaliyah was untouchable and those same people would think differently if she were alive today". As usual, people have taken something and twisted it to fit their own agenda. All of the negative comments about her looks and talent are uncalled for. Not necessarily directed at you, but that's what I see happening in this thread.

In regard to Brandy, people don't act like Brandy and Monica didn't exist. You had Brandy and Monica selling more albums, but when you're on a Hip Hop forum, of course Aaliyah is going to be discussed to a greater degree. Her sound and look appealed more to a Hip Hop audience than Brandy and Monica. Yeah, they had songs that had a Hip Hop sound, but Aaliyah's whole albums were like that for the most part. Her death has little to do with it. Their sophomore albums really drew the lines, because One In A Million had a harder sound than Never Say Never and The Boy Is Mine.
I'm sure T-pain is not basing his comments on the Coli and neither am I. I'm speaking on the general public, and Aaliyah's music being "harder" doesn't have shyt to do with that.
 
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Aaliyah simply isn't one of the greats, doesn't mean that she garbage :manny:

she isnt one of the greats..we already acknowledged that tho..but you got lame tricks in here saying she was b-level type of artist..comparing her to mya and shiit...smh

beyonce cant sing for shiit either..and didnt write herown songs til like she turned like 27-28..so she isnt one of the greats too?
 

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I don't know if I'd say R. Kelly made Aaliyah. He's worked with other female talents who were arguably better than Aaliyah and they didn't have the same success (Changing Faces, Sparkle). Her writers and producers and team are a huge part of her success, but some credit has to be given to her ability to bring it all together.
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I'm sure T-pain is not basing his comments on the Coli and neither am I. I'm speaking on the general public, and Aaliyah's music being "harder" doesn't have shyt to do with that.

Never said he was basing his comments on The Coli. I'm talking about how his comments are being twisted by posters on The Coli.

General public? Yeah, there's some people who would say that Brandy and Monica were irrelevant in regard to Aaliyah. I wouldn't say that that's the general public though. That's a select few.
 

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she isnt one of the greats..we already acknowledged that tho..but you got lame tricks in here saying she was b-level type of artist..comparing her to mya and shiit...smh

beyonce cant sing for shiit either..and didnt write herown songs til like she turned like 27-28..so she isnt one of the greats too?

Beyonce is one of the greats, but not by classical standards. She's a great performer, proven to have staying power, is a cultural icon, but if she was being judged simply by her catalogue of classics or being a great singer / artist alone, she's not even top 10 :francis:
 

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I guess jermaine dupri didnt create bow wow either huh

Nope for the same reasons R. Kelly didn't create Aaliyah. You can give artists lyrics, music, and mentoring all day, but it's still on that artist to translate that into something that resonates with listeners.
 

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Nah I wouldn't compare her to a Drizzy or Jhene Aiko...and think about it...there were artists with weaker voices blowing up heavy...like TLC...and Total....none them could really sing like that...they were more harmonizing...so Drizzy had more than Aaliyah to look too for that lane....matter of fact...the biggest of them all..Janet Jackson couldn't really sing like that..

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she isnt one of the greats..we already acknowledged that tho..but you got lame tricks in here saying she was b-level type of artist..comparing her to mya and shiit...smh

beyonce cant sing for shiit either..and didnt write herown songs til like she turned like 27-28..so she isnt one of the greats too?

WHaaaaat?

Do u know how large that broad's vocal range is?? :damn:

Beyonce cant sing????

Do u know how delusional u must be to even conjure up such a statement :damn: :why:
 
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