Slystallion's non biased view of the Zimmerman fiasco

[Slystallion]

Trayvon Martin News Shooting 911 Call - Listen to Trayvon Martin Getting Shot - YouTube

I want to remain calm, but if you listen to that tape you can clearly hear Trayvon screaming for help before he gets shot. There is nothing left to talk about. You guys are blatantly racist, some dude makes up a story and even tho the 911 tapes, the neighbors all say Zimm was in the wrong, you still like "Uh... I don't know"

I'm not waiting for you to "admit" anything. Your denial is an admittance

Here's my question to you about who was in the Wrong. Correct me if Im wrong, but Zimmerman sees a black teen walking down the street. He calls the police not because he was committing a crime, but because he was Black. If that is correct so far, there is nothing more to discuss really, The white dude felt the Black guy was a threat based on no evidence other than the color of his skin.

He can't be beating the shyt out of Zimmerman and yelling for help, In less than one minute its clear what happened. Never again tho. fukk anyone who says different.,.

I never heard either of these two speak to know who's voice is yelling and there is no way for you to know ...one witness saw trayvon on top the person on top wouldn't be yelling for help

 

[ltheghost]

Trayvon struck first without waiting to see if Zimmerman was truly going to attack him. You have to be sure before you strike someone that you are in danger

Ummm I don't know about that one. Remember Zimmerman was following Trayvon in the dark. I don't know if anyone wants a stranger walking up on you in the dark... I think it was out of fear of being killed that Trayvon attacked. Which is perfectly understandable. I'm sure you wouldn't want some strange man creeping up on you in the dark.

 

[PS5 Pro]

I never heard either of these two speak to know who's voice is yelling and there is no way for you to know ...one witness saw trayvon on top the person on top wouldn't be yelling for help

And that ladies and gentleman is the fantastic white lie you are trying to perpetuate

Look man, its you are extremely naive or you think black people are stupid.
I can easily prove to you why it was Zimmerman. You are claiming you can't tell if the "boy" screaming was really this grown ass man or not.

Ok

So now lets put yourself in that situation. You have to do this to be able to determine who is telling the truth. If something doesn't add up, then you know who is lying right?

So then, A grown ARMED man who is neighborhood watch or whatever. Police tell him to stay where he is. He's obviously not scared of Trayvon since he said "fukk that" and confronted him right?

Just listen to the first 45 seconds while following this part here. Listen to how long between the last scream for help and the gunshot. (between the 40-44sec mark) the last scream happens almost simultanously with the gunshot. So you mean to tell me, this Neighborhood watch guy who didn't listen to the police suggestion because he was.. scared? Anyways, this guy with the gun pointed at a kid is yelling help while squeezing the trigger

So a bigger guy with a gun is screaming and shooting at the same time.

Maybe you didn't know about this particular evidence, or maybe you didn't really analyze it. Now that we are doing that, please provide a response that makes any sense. If you refuse, but then still say "I don't know" all you are doing at that point is showing cyberspace how some devils really are...

Spoiler

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...cter-racial-double-standard-article-1.1399073

 

[Slystallion]

And that ladies and gentleman is the fantastic white lie you are trying to perpetuate

Look man, its you are extremely naive or you think black people are stupid.
I can easily prove to you why it was Zimmerman. You are claiming you can't tell if the "boy" screaming was really this grown ass man or not.

Ok

So now lets put yourself in that situation. You have to do this to be able to determine who is telling the truth. If something doesn't add up, then you know who is lying right?

So then, A grown ARMED man who is neighborhood watch or whatever. Police tell him to stay where he is. He's obviously not scared of Trayvon since he said "fukk that" and confronted him right?

Just listen to the first 45 seconds while following this part here. Listen to how long between the last scream for help and the gunshot. (between the 40-44sec mark) the last scream happens almost simultanously with the gunshot. So you mean to tell me, this Neighborhood watch guy who didn't listen to the police suggestion because he was.. scared? Anyways, this guy with the gun pointed at a kid is yelling help while squeezing the trigger

So a bigger guy with a gun is screaming and shooting at the same time.

Maybe you didn't know about this particular evidence, or maybe you didn't really analyze it. Now that we are doing that, please provide a response that makes any sense. If you refuse, but then still say "I don't know" all you are doing at that point is showing cyberspace how some devils really are...

Spoiler

Tell Me They're Not Evil - YouTube

Why would Zimmer continue to scream once he shot him? Also everyone here says it would be a struggle to get the gun from that position so its not like he actually sat there pointing it he probably finally accessed it and led off a quick shot out of fear

 

[PS5 Pro]

Why would Zimmer continue to scream once he shot him? Also everyone here says it would be a struggle to get the gun from that position so its not like he actually sat there pointing it he probably finally accessed it and led off a quick shot out of fear

You are basing this off of what evidence? Actual evidence or what Zimmermans verison was?

I didn't say Zimmerman would continue to scream, I'm saying he never was screaming. Didn't he outweigh Trayvon by 100lbs? Didn't he have a gun?
The ONLY thing you know is that HE was armed and confronted Trayvon, not the otherway around. How do you just assume Trayvon then with a slurpee in one hand and some fucing skittles in his pocket? I'm sorry, you not a thug if you rocking skittles and slurpee How would Zimmerman get in close enough proximity if Trayvon was acting all standoff'ish?

You ever been in a fight before? You ever fight a KID that weighed 100lbs less than you? Would you need to Kill him? I'm talking if (which didn't happen) Trayvon walked up on Zimm on some "WTF you want nikka" would killing him be justified in any scenario? AS for your version of the story about Trayvon on top? 100% media made up bullshyt. As you know, black ppl took interest in this story asap. At the time, neighbors came out and said they seen Zimmerman standing over Trayvon. But of course miracle witnesses a year later have a different version :ducktales:

Well look, I'll find the videos from the first week where there was nobody saying what you trying to push off as fact. In the meantime, you said you never heard Zimmerman? Here you go...

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1S3Q23R9kg[/ame]

 

[Nigerianwonder]

they cant just make up something to convict him on..thats the point..

fukked up things happen but that doesnt warrant a conviction...

stalking>>>??how.. its his job to bascially patrol the area... stalking it needs to happen more than once...

vigilantism... >> ???

intent to cause bodily harm../? >> he didnt intend to do anything.. he is jus gonna say he go into a fight

hate crimes?? wtf... the dude who got dragged behind a car or matthew shepard was a hate crime... if murder was a hate crime all of chicago would be a serious of hate crimes...

first and second degree ??? no way

manslaugher?? you saw what thier reasoning was... fight out of control and that happened...
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There was no formal neighborhood watch in the area so no that was not his "job" to patrol anything. He was a self appointed wanna be loser. And the formal Neighborhood watch never permits members to carry guns. So He wasn't neighborhood watch... he was a vigilante taking the law and risks that come with it into his own hands.

 

[Slystallion]

You are basing this off of what evidence? Actual evidence or what Zimmermans verison was?

I didn't say Zimmerman would continue to scream, I'm saying he never was screaming. Didn't he outweigh Trayvon by 100lbs? Didn't he have a gun?
The ONLY thing you know is that HE was armed and confronted Trayvon, not the otherway around. How do you just assume Trayvon then with a slurpee in one hand and some fucing skittles in his pocket? I'm sorry, you not a thug if you rocking skittles and slurpee How would Zimmerman get in close enough proximity if Trayvon was acting all standoff'ish?

You ever been in a fight before? You ever fight a KID that weighed 100lbs less than you? Would you need to Kill him? I'm talking if (which didn't happen) Trayvon walked up on Zimm on some "WTF you want nikka" would killing him be justified in any scenario? AS for your version of the story about Trayvon on top? 100% media made up bullshyt. As you know, black ppl took interest in this story asap. At the time, neighbors came out and said they seen Zimmerman standing over Trayvon. But of course miracle witnesses a year later have a different version :ducktales:

Well look, I'll find the videos from the first week where there was nobody saying what you trying to push off as fact. In the meantime, you said you never heard Zimmerman? Here you go...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1S3Q23R9kg

I've already stated that Zimmerman went beyond the call and should not used lethal force and I know i sure as hell wouldn't...i don't believe i would get my ass whipped like that either

do you not realize the media wanted Zimmerman convicted? The white house and hell even 3 of the jurors wanted to convict Zimmerman of something but there was no strong evidence

so if professionals such as the prosecution couldn't find strong witnesses to dispute Zimmerman's account of what happened why in the hell would i take what you say with any ounce of credibility? You a guy who sits here and plays videogames all day and when not playing is sitting here with his pom poms over a system and company he probably doesn't even own stock in...not that Microsoft is really a growth stock any way i'd steer clear personally its pretty stale...

again keeping it simple without being able to dispute Zim's story and taking it at face value...he who strikes first is fukked for the most part legally

 

[thevarangian]

Zimmerman is most definitely a piece of shyt wannabe cop who should have stayed in his car instead of trying to be a hero that night.

However.

Since there is very little concrete evidence that shows exactly what happened that night, there's legally nothing the courts can do to him. All we know is that there was a fight, TM is dead, and GZ looks like someone beat the shyt out of him. There's a lot of situations that can come out of that, one being self defense. Because that is one possible option, he legally is not guilty of any crime.

However.

This sheds a really dark light over how the law works in Florida. Are you having a disagreement with someone? Do you live in Florida? Do you legally own a gun? SIMPLE! Take the person to some place relatively secluded, scream HELP HELP HELP as loud as you can so people far enough away can hear you. Then shoot the other person dead. You've solved your disagreement and you can cry self defense and nobody can do shyt! It's perfect!

 

[PS5 Pro]

There was no formal neighborhood watch in the area so no that was not his "job" to patrol anything. He was a self appointed wanna be loser. And the formal Neighborhood watch never permits members to carry guns. So He wasn't neighborhood watch... he was a vigilante taking the law and risks that come with it into his own hands.

Yeah, the Media created that angle. And now til this day people still think thats why he had a right to be a vigilante. But Zimmerman said himself he was "Just on his way to Target" when he noticed a suspicious black man.

Never gave more of a reason/description than that. I guess thats all the evidence he or anyone who agrees with him needed

 

[Jesus]

You people love giving trolls attention?

 

[PS5 Pro]

I've already stated that Zimmerman went beyond the call and should not used lethal force and I know i sure as hell wouldn't...i don't believe i would get my ass whipped like that either

do you not realize the media wanted Zimmerman convicted? The white house and hell even 3 of the jurors wanted to convict Zimmerman of something but there was no strong evidence

so if professionals such as the prosecution couldn't find strong witnesses to dispute Zimmerman's account of what happened why in the hell would i take what you say with any ounce of credibility? You a guy who sits here and plays videogames all day and when not playing is sitting here with his pom poms over a system and company he probably doesn't even own stock in...not that Microsoft is really a growth stock any way i'd steer clear personally its pretty stale...

again keeping it simple without being able to dispute Zim's story and taking it at face value...he who strikes first is fukked for the most part legally

I see you are getting upset as people who are losing arguments often do. I play games and post here all day? How would you know that unless you here, posting all day Is it relevant? No. Thank you for trying to "discredit" me just like they always do to black people
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lylp0paYRFI[/ame]

But back to what you was saying before you starting crying. I'm gonna bold that. According to your logic, I would always be wrong even if I was right. Because who am I afterall, I'm not the oppressor who obviously can do no wrong in your eyes. They didn't find him guilty, but they wanted to right

So then tell me, how come when they do have evidence the same results happen?
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW1ZDIXiuS4[/ame]

You probably really think black ppl are just blindly going with Trayvon like white ppl are blindly going with Zimmeran right? I've been in Trayvon's shoes literally DOZENS of times. I just didn't get shot tho.
Since you don't understand this, here's some more evidence of what this no credibility guy has been thru...
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0ahn_njMnE[/ame]

^^^ shyt goes down like that all the time ^^^

Let me show the the White version of that same scenario...
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jCIEt1rIxU[/ame]

Never too old, this guy the cop says had a knife in his hand...

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9v6lm2X2E0[/ame]

Here's them telling this lady how they not gonna lock her up, then immediately tells the camera man if he keeps recording "he's gonna get locked up too" which thus means hes trying to lock up the woman.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9pSWqEQZmI[/ame]

Why? She didn't have ID on her
Just showing you how "because some government person said they looked into it means NOTHING

 

[PS5 Pro]

However.

Since there is very little concrete evidence that shows exactly what happened that night, there's legally nothing the courts can do to him.

Black woman

 

[thevarangian]

Black woman

There is evidence in that case that shows the chick left the situation to get the gun then went back to fire the shots. That's where SYG breaks down there.

 

[Raizan]

Exactly...if you are a black man in 2013 walking around without gun might as well put "merk me" on your forehead.

these cacs don't give a fukk about you.

Sad but true...

 

[Slystallion]

I see you are getting upset as people who are losing arguments often do. I play games and post here all day? How would you know that unless you here, posting all day Is it relevant? No. Thank you for trying to "discredit" me just like they always do to black people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lylp0paYRFI

But back to what you was saying before you starting crying. I'm gonna bold that. According to your logic, I would always be wrong even if I was right. Because who am I afterall, I'm not the oppressor who obviously can do no wrong in your eyes. They didn't find him guilty, but they wanted to right

So then tell me, how come when they do have evidence the same results happen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW1ZDIXiuS4

You probably really think black ppl are just blindly going with Trayvon like white ppl are blindly going with Zimmeran right? I've been in Trayvon's shoes literally DOZENS of times. I just didn't get shot tho.
Since you don't understand this, here's some more evidence of what this no credibility guy has been thru...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0ahn_njMnE

^^^ shyt goes down like that all the time ^^^

Let me show the the White version of that same scenario...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jCIEt1rIxU

Never too old, this guy the cop says had a knife in his hand...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9v6lm2X2E0

Here's them telling this lady how they not gonna lock her up, then immediately tells the camera man if he keeps recording "he's gonna get locked up too" which thus means hes trying to lock up the woman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9pSWqEQZmI

Why? She didn't have ID on her
Just showing you how "because some government person said they looked into it means NOTHING

I don't know who you have me confused with but I am no friend of the cops! I've already stated there are other cases that stronger arguments can be made for wrongdoings when it comes to race and abuse of power

this one wasn't clear cut and the wrong one to riot over...take the bias goggles off and just look at the evidence that was available and you will see this shouldn't have even gone to trial

I am not trying to hold anyone down nor do I see things in racial narratives such as yourself

I am aware that there are abuses of power and racial profiling exists but i'm always trying my best to see actual motives and intentions before i make assumptions since i'm not a mind reader

and the mind itself is complicated and sometimes you don't even know what really motivates your own actions sometimes