Slystallion's non biased view of the Zimmerman fiasco

[Slystallion]

I would honestly smack the fukk out of you in real life for spitting this ignorant shyt in public no lie. fukk with me if you want. I can only hope some grown man kills your son in the street like a dog one day. I would love you see how quick you would come to the "night watchman's defense" if Trayvon was your fukking kid.

This is why i don't give opinions on facebook and stay away from this type of stuff in real life, delusional keyboard "tough" guys like you...your the same type of dude who in a car puts his middle finger beeps and curses inside the safety of his own vehicle but would be quick to back down and apologize once the person comes out of their vehicle and says whats up

Last night i imagined my little brother who is around the same age as Trayvon and also is going through his tough guy phase and could totally see him doing the same thing and it made me cry to think about losing him like that

But ultimately as angry as I would be i would know it was my fault for not teaching my brother to avoid confrontation unless someone actually lunges at you and do enough so you can just leave. Ideally being able to get someone in a full nelson and pushing their head down will put them to sleep temporarily and disable them so you can exit or call the police. Trayvon could have just went home and not started it

Initiating an attack can cause all sorts of trouble and thats what I think happened with Trayvon...a lot of times even if you win a fight there are countless ways you will still lose...you can be sued...you can be arrested for assault...the person can come back later on and shoot you...the only place fights should occur are sanctioned events and tournaments where the goal isn't to kill each other but to win a competition

 

[daze23]

Initiating an attack can cause all sorts of trouble and thats what happened with Trayvon...

that's what you think happened with Trayvon

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

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bruh if trayvon feared zimmerman [like you say] it makes perfect sense that he attacked him...that is what fear does...zimmerman says he killed tray because he feared for his life--...zimmerman is allowed to kill trayvon because he feared for his life but trayvon isnt allowed to hit zimmerman out of fear????--...

yeah..but explain the testimony of martin on top of zimmerman.. the broken nose... the "chicken scratches" on the back of his head...

lol.. i cant belive that ppl on this board think that zimmerman took his chances on martin and started the fight by throwing punches WHILE HE HAS A GUN HE COULD JUST SHOW AND BASCIALLY HOLD DOWN MARTIN WITH THAT GUN

but NO... ZIMMERMAN OF COURSE THOEW THE FIRST PUNCH AND MARTIN JUS REACTED...wtf...

if zimmerman knew that bring out a gun to subdue an potential perp was wrong im pretty sure zimmerman was under the assumption that thowing the first punch is equally as wrong..... why cant these assumptoins be made..???

ppl here are assuming that martin was executed... he wasnt...

you can google plenty of road rage fights when keeping it real goes wrong type stories all day that mirror what happened here...

it was a fight gone wrong that is being manipulated along racial lines for whatever reason...

but take the race and the emotion out of it.. and its fairly easy to come to the same conclusions the jury did... WHAT DID THEY SAY.. THE WANTED TO CONVICT HIM OF SOMETHING BUT JUS COULDNT FIND ANYTHING TO CONVICT HIM OF... what does that tell you ABOUT THE FUKKING FACTS OF THIS CASE...

facts trump emotion...

How about you explain the drugs Zimmerman said trayvon was on. Explain what trayvon went for in his waistband.
After that, explain why Zimmerman would approach someone who he thought had a weapon and was on drugs, with his own gun holstered. Only a complete to would think the prosecution tried to prosecute zman.

 

[thevarangian]

Where you think she went, to another state then drove back
Or did she go into another room? Maybe you never had a girl before? But arguments get heated sometimes, and when they do? People say stupid shyt in the heat of the moment. So she goes and gets her gun in her own home, WTF are you talking about she could of left? Why, cuz you saying so now? Show me where you seen that she could have left? Not even the husband alluded to that

Then you want to turn around and say "she could of called the police, not go back to the situation with a gun"

You mean, exactly what Zimmerman did? He called the police, they told him to stand down. He said fukk that, took the gun to party and murdered a child who he outweighed by 100lbs. Claiming the child just was beating his ass even though he takes MMA classes 3x a week. Your giving zimmerman every single benefit of the doubt here I wonder why. Bet it has something to do with a car horn

She went out of the building and to her truck and got her gun then went back into the building I believe. She was not in the potential violent situation and then returned to it with a gun. That's intent, dude. No way around it.

Now, with GZ. Dude was keeping watch over a possible suspect (his frame of mind). The dispatcher told him they don't need him to follow TM, but it's not illegal to disregard that suggestion. It's also not illegal to follow someone.

By that token, it's not necessarily illegal to enter a building with a gun in hand. Well, it probably is in some form. But the female walking into the building with the gun in her possession wasn't what was illegal. Shooting the gun after she was returning to the situation is what makes shooting the gun illegal. If she had already has access to the gun in the building and was being threatened and ran for the gun while the threat of imminent bodily hard was still valid and real, SYG would still be valid. That didn't happen.

Going back to GZ. Nothing he did up to the confrontation was illegal. It also doesn't make the actual events of the encounter illegal. There's no evidence to show he either:

Had his gun out and ready to fire
Initiated the encounter with the intent to kill TM
Shot TM with no immediate threat to himself.

You may believe any of these things. I may believe it. But the justice system does not convict people on what others believe. You can believe something to be true but also accept that other options are possible. Other options are most definitely possible in this case and that's why GZ walked.

 

[Dirty Mcdrawz]

your bias is showing....

 

[bright black]

She went out of the building and to her truck and got her gun then went back into the building I believe. She was not in the potential violent situation and then returned to it with a gun. That's intent, dude. No way around it.

Now, with GZ. Dude was keeping watch over a possible suspect (his frame of mind). The dispatcher told him they don't need him to follow TM, but it's not illegal to disregard that suggestion. It's also not illegal to follow someone.

By that token, it's not necessarily illegal to enter a building with a gun in hand. Well, it probably is in some form. But the female walking into the building with the gun in her possession wasn't what was illegal. Shooting the gun after she was returning to the situation is what makes shooting the gun illegal. If she had already has access to the gun in the building and was being threatened and ran for the gun while the threat of imminent bodily hard was still valid and real, SYG would still be valid. That didn't happen.

Going back to GZ. Nothing he did up to the confrontation was illegal. It also doesn't make the actual events of the encounter illegal. There's no evidence to show he either:

Had his gun out and ready to fire
Initiated the encounter with the intent to kill TM
Shot TM with no immediate threat to himself.

You may believe any of these things. I may believe it. But the justice system does not convict people on what others believe. You can believe something to be true but also accept that other options are possible. Other options are most definitely possible in this case and that's why GZ walked.

nothing wrong with that if it is her house...

 

[PS5 Pro]

that's what you think happened to Trayvon

He thinks therefore he am! (makes about as much sense as his logic so I'm rolling with it )

She went out of the building and to her truck and got her gun then went back into the building I believe. She was not in the potential violent situation and then returned to it with a gun. That's intent, dude. No way around it.

Now, with GZ. Dude was keeping watch over a possible suspect (his frame of mind). The dispatcher told him they don't need him to follow TM, but it's not illegal to disregard that suggestion. It's also not illegal to follow someone.

By that token, it's not necessarily illegal to enter a building with a gun in hand. Well, it probably is in some form. But the female walking into the building with the gun in her possession wasn't what was illegal. Shooting the gun after she was returning to the situation is what makes shooting the gun illegal. If she had already has access to the gun in the building and was being threatened and ran for the gun while the threat of imminent bodily hard was still valid and real, SYG would still be valid. That didn't happen.

Going back to GZ. Nothing he did up to the confrontation was illegal. It also doesn't make the actual events of the encounter illegal. There's no evidence to show he either:

Had his gun out and ready to fire
Initiated the encounter with the intent to kill TM
Shot TM with no immediate threat to himself.

You may believe any of these things. I may believe it. But the justice system does not convict people on what others believe. You can believe something to be true but also accept that other options are possible. Other options are most definitely possible in this case and that's why GZ walked.

Ok, first off. Like Sly, you think adding in lies to your arguement will get you somewhere when talking to me
Marissa Alexander case in spotlight after Zimmerman trial - The Washington Post

The REASON they claim they didn't grant her the stand your ground? Because the husband said he was about to leave. Then at the end of the article you see how the Same judge is pointing to shyt unrelated like her punching him in the eye while she was on bail. I guess that means what? That shes guilty? You and her seem like you subscribe to the same Newsletter

Now, to Zimmerman. Everything he did was illegal. What right did he have to run up on him. You tell me that, I'll fall back and I'll tell the Zulu Nation to drop there spears. You trying to create this fantastic scenario where Zim was walking all calmly up to Trayvon and he was like "Excuse me sir, are you lost?" And Trayvon was like "You muthafukkin CRACKA " then lunged at this guy who is twice his age and almost twice his weight. Gets him to the ground, even tho he goes to MMA training classes 3x a week, some kid has him on the ground, beating his ass. Look at the video they made for the trial...

So after this kid gets him to the ground, and his then slamming his head into the concrete. George starts screaming like he Blankman on some "Well slap me around and call me susan" shyt. And after all this, then musters the strength to pull out a gun from that position, aims, fires.

I only here people speculate about the struggle, what has Zimmerman said about that scuffle? You know what, I just solved the case actually
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K-_BQoHLOg[/ame]
As you can see, his version has a lot of dialouge between him and Trayvon
So he's about to lose consciousness right, and while he's screaming at the top of his lunges Trayvon sweetly whispers "Your gonna die tonight" and then reaches for his gun

Wait wait... and then he's reaching for it, cuz Zim says in the video he sees that Trayvon say the gun. Is in the mounted postition, goes to grab it but instead of actually grabbing it he reaches too high. George then with Cat like reflexes from his back gets to the gun first, pulls it out, fires all before Trayvon could react.

As you can see, people are lying left and right. Even the Police chief was FIRED. You only get fired if you did something wrong. Did the police try to cover up Zimmermans past on top of that? Yeah, but what about Zimmermans current? New thread, cuz this is too good for a Sly thread...

 

[Kritic]

whenever someone starts talking about "belief" it's never a good ending.

you see "belief", whether right or wrong, (wrong in most cases) is used to justify wrong judgment.