Slystallion's non biased view of the Zimmerman fiasco

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so a kid is getting followed by a stranger and he realizes he is being followed so he runs away and when the stranger catches the kid dudes say the kid shouldnt put up a fight????--...

 

[Dr Dre's ProductionSkills]

Blah blah blah blah shut the fukk up your an idiot

cool story...

keep em simple...

 

[NubianVitruvian]

yeah..but explain the testimony of martin on top of zimmerman.. the broken nose... the "chicken scratches" on the back of his head...

lol.. i cant belive that ppl on this board think that zimmerman took his chances on martin and started the fight by throwing punches WHILE HE HAS A GUN HE COULD JUST SHOW AND BASCIALLY HOLD DOWN MARTIN WITH THAT GUN

but NO... ZIMMERMAN OF COURSE THOEW THE FIRST PUNCH AND MARTIN JUS REACTED...wtf...

if zimmerman knew that bring out a gun to subdue an potential perp was wrong im pretty sure zimmerman was under the assumption that thowing the first punch is equally as wrong..... why cant these assumptoins be made..???


ppl here are assuming that martin was executed... he wasnt...

you can google plenty of road rage fights when keeping it real goes wrong type stories all day that mirror what happened here...

it was a fight gone wrong that is being manipulated along racial lines for whatever reason...

but take the race and the emotion out of it.. and its fairly easy to come to the same conclusions the jury did... WHAT DID THEY SAY.. THE WANTED TO CONVICT HIM OF SOMETHING BUT JUS COULDNT FIND ANYTHING TO CONVICT HIM OF... what does that tell you ABOUT THE FUKKING FACTS OF THIS CASE...

facts trump emotion...

So why you getting mad?

How about stalking, Vigilantism, harassment, assault, assault with a deadly weapon, intent to cause bodily harm, hate crimes, first degree murder, second degree murder, manslaughter?

 

[Big Skilly Films]

man i come in here thinking it was the view of sly stallone the actor not the racist homo from the coli...

 

[Dr Dre's ProductionSkills]

Zimmerman feared for his life. After he left his car and 9-11 said not too. (disobeying the law, vigilante)

zimmerman was a moron... we all get it..

but when some guy (THAT YOU DONT KNOW IS 17) is hitting you and on top of you AND YOU HAVE A FUKKING GUN guess what .. if that guy gets your gun its a wrap...

so tell me how he isnt fearing for his life in that situation:??

and this is after the fact that we know martin is 17 ... you think zimmerman had time to process his age as he was fully mounted gettin beat down>>>

when you get in fights DO YOU ASK FOR A DRIVERS LICENCE TO VERFIY AGES./???wtf...

again.. a bunch of super thugs fighters on this board.. but lets say somebody who is 4 inches taller than you who you think is a criminal is on top of you beathing you down and you have a gun that they dont know about and your assailant has as much access as you do since he is on top of you.. IS IT THAT MUCH OF A STRETCH TO ASSUME YOU COULD BE FEARING FOR YOUR LIFE AND THUS JUSTIFY THE USE OF YOUR GUN...

in a fight all bets are off... ive youve seen them or been apart of them YOU KNOW HOW CLUMSLY AKWARD AND CRAZY FIGHTS ARE... some of you guys are assuming there is so much time to process all this after that fact info IN THE MOMENT.... so many variables that come into play...

believe or not there are ways to diffuse situations like trayvon was in... if you think that everysituation needs to be resolved with fists..you are gonna lose in life... ive seen fights were bigger better fighters got gutted up real nice by some punk kid who was madddoggin them but cause the punk kid was gettin his azz beat he had an exacto knife or pocketknife secret equalizer...

"Rather be judged by twelve than carried by six"

 

[NubianVitruvian]

What's so special about your response? I've read many like it over the past few months, and especially in the past few days. It certainly isn't "non-biased"...





I'd question if you're trolling, but your responses so far suggest that you just don't know what the hell you're talking about

zimmerman was a moron... we all get it..

but when some guy (THAT YOU DONT KNOW IS 17) is hitting you and on top of you AND YOU HAVE A FUKKING GUN guess what .. if that guy gets your gun its a wrap...

so tell me how he isnt fearing for his life in that situation:??

and this is after the fact that we know martin is 17 ... you think zimmerman had time to process his age as he was fully mounted gettin beat down>>>

when you get in fights DO YOU ASK FOR A DRIVERS LICENCE TO VERFIY AGES./???wtf...

again.. a bunch of super thugs fighters on this board.. but lets say somebody who is 4 inches taller than you who you think is a criminal is on top of you beathing you down and you have a gun that they dont know about and your assailant has as much access as you do since he is on top of you.. IS IT THAT MUCH OF A STRETCH TO ASSUME YOU COULD BE FEARING FOR YOUR LIFE AND THUS JUSTIFY THE USE OF YOUR GUN...

in a fight all bets are off... ive youve seen them or been apart of them YOU KNOW HOW CLUMSLY AKWARD AND CRAZY FIGHTS ARE... some of you guys are assuming there is so much time to process all this after that fact info IN THE MOMENT.... so many variables that come into play...

believe or not there are ways to diffuse situations like trayvon was in... if you think that everysituation needs to be resolved with fists..you are gonna lose in life... ive seen fights were bigger better fighters got gutted up real nice by some punk kid who was madddoggin them but cause the punk kid was gettin his azz beat he had an exacto knife or pocketknife secret equalizer...

"Rather be judged by twelve than carried by six"

A gun works too. You can win a fight by not fighting it in the first place. Hey 9-11.... oh stay in the car? don't engage? Cool.

 

[Dr Dre's ProductionSkills]

So why you getting mad?

How about stalking, Vigilantism, harassment, assault, assault with a deadly weapon, intent to cause bodily harm, hate crimes, first degree murder, second degree murder, manslaughter?

they cant just make up something to convict him on..thats the point..

fukked up things happen but that doesnt warrant a conviction...

stalking>>>??how.. its his job to bascially patrol the area... stalking it needs to happen more than once...

vigilantism... >> ???

intent to cause bodily harm../? >> he didnt intend to do anything.. he is jus gonna say he go into a fight

hate crimes?? wtf... the dude who got dragged behind a car or matthew shepard was a hate crime... if murder was a hate crime all of chicago would be a serious of hate crimes...

first and second degree ??? no way

manslaugher?? you saw what thier reasoning was... fight out of control and that happened...

when this first story came out the way it was presented it sounded as if zimmerman came up to martin and either executed him or did like scene in casino where they shoot joe peices homie cause he had a hero sandwich wrappend in foil that the stupid cops thought was a gun...

thats how it was gettin played out... COME TO FIND OUT 47 days later they show pics of zimmermans face bused up and the back of his head banged up.. had those pics came out day one.. this wouldve been percieved as a fight gone wrong and a how giving guns to mmorons is a mistake cause this is a bad result... just like in some states its legal for students to carry guns... we are all waiting for the epic fukk up thats surley to come one day with that dumb idea...

but fact is that within those 47 days all the racial component was injected into this story and once the real facts started to come it ppl had already dug in thier positions with alot to lose by saying anyuthing other than what they are saying...

fight gone wrong.. dummy with gun... = bad horrible tragedy... it does not equal the stuff that is being thrown out there now..

 

[NubianVitruvian]

What's your point?

 

[Dr Dre's ProductionSkills]

A gun works too. You can win a fight by not fighting it in the first place. Hey 9-11.... oh stay in the car? don't engage? Cool.

totally right... zimmerman.. is an idiot.. reckless...

florida is a dumb state that allows that..

if this law was in effect in cali or nyc it would be a fukking horror show...

but engaging with words is diff than engaging with fists...

ive been hit up by dumb rent a cops or condo association morons that think their cops.. theyve as condecending or combative as can get somethimes especially if your not from around there.. but i cant be hitting ppl or even cussing them out unless i want that situation to escalate... lord knows i hope to god none of them are armed... and im always under the assumumption that they are frankly by the way the talk to ppl sometimes...

you can either think what i just said is stupid and unfair or you can think he thats the way somethings are...

i bet you when im 40 that i wont have these situations but i look young and am hispanic.. i get fukking profiled all the time.. by black brown and asian more than anything...

 

[NubianVitruvian]

Breh we in the same fight that could have been me or you. Do NOT side with them. They will kill you.

Cops profile me too, and yes you have to know how to handle your pigs. Get their badge number. Their names. They Serve and Protect YOU the People. They are public servants. They are below You. Don't let them make you think otherwise.

This fukk Zimmerman was a fukking rent a cop nobody. His daddy is a judge. Maybe even a Freemason. Yeah that's a fukking stretch but he called 9-11 first. He thinks it's a game cause he knew he was above the law and could get away with it.

We are all slaves to the system. We are all house ******s or field ******s. Know who's fukking side your on. Know who You are. Know your fukkING ENEMY.

It isn't me. It isn't your neighbor. It's the whole damn System, the Game itself.

Welcome to the Team.

 

[NubianVitruvian]

One more thing


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[Slystallion]

Zimmerman feared for his life. After he left his car and 9-11 said not too. (disobeying the law, vigilante)

not listening to the dispatcher is not breaking any laws...wow

to keep it simple any time you strike someone your liable to get got...thats just the way it is

its never smart to strike someone first because legally your in the wrong almost all the time and you open yourself up to someone coming back at you with a force stronger than you came with and it would be perfectly legal

I repeat Zimmerman was pansy who couldn't handle a 17 yr old and probably felt his life was in danger and thought he was cooler than he really was and got hit with reality and got his ass whipped

i don't respect either of these two just calling the tragedy for what it is and this outrage over the verdict is retarded when there was no evidence to even bring it this far, there are cases of black guys getting off because of stand your ground and they didn't make the news

you want to hate me over that fine

 

[kingofnyc]

imo.. his motive was "who the fukk is this cracker trying to check me" "fukk that "

imo trayvon sized up real quick zimmerman and and fukk this guy... had zimmerman been some deboo mofo or even another young black male then i would bet trayvon mind woudlve been thinking differently

i know it soulds shi1tty but you gonna act based on what you percieve the other person is , how they act or your perception of them...

case in point.. when i was a youngsta we used to go steal cds from like warehouse or tower records here in so cal...

dude if the attendant is some white girl or some white boy or some old asian dude trust me we were going in there thinking WHAT THE FUKK THEY GONNA DO TO STOP US... (of course in retrospect the old asian dude who was prob the owner was prob the biggest threat cause if anyone was strapped up with a gat it wouldve been him... but our attitude was that of fukk you gonna do...

well one time in south oc we were gonna go in an get a some cd's from a tower records.. (THIS IS SOUTH ORANGE COUNTY MIND YOU.. very nice area)... well some older early 40 black dude who looked as if he was a marine steps to us .. knew exactly what was going on.. says to us "you guys have 5 seconds to put back those cds or ima knock one of you the fukk out and run after the other two"... DO YOU THINK WE HAD THE SAME "FUKK YOU WHAT YOU GONNA DO " ATTITUDE WITH THAT GUY...

we took the l and never came back...

had that been some hippy nirvana white boy or the old asian dude we prob (dumb as we were) wouldve banked their azzes...

same reason now a days if you get in a fight with somebody you cant tell if theyre a nerd or what not caues if they know mma its a wrap... lol

travyon was right in that wtf was zimmerman follwing him.. i get the fact that zimmerman was wrong to do so... but once you put your hands on somebody all bets are off in a fight... im also pretty sure a 35 year old travyon handles that SITUATION VERY DIFFERENTLY ...

ur opinion dosnt makes any sense toward this incident

u claiming trayvon size up GZ after being stalked *on some imma fukked this herb azz looking white boy
1. tray is on unfamiliar grounds -his pops GF lived there... it aint like this happen around his hood or somewhere he had good knowledge of were he could have felt comforable on taken on a stranger

2. he called him a 'crazy' azz cracker - not a 'herb' azz cracker
emphasize the word 'crazy' -why would trayvon of anybody be the aggressor to calling a person crazy unless they felt threaten

3. making an analogy if ur youth to his -is apples n oranges
u really gonna compare u & ur lil homies running up on stores robbing, stealing, boosting etc... toward someone u think u can over power
listen... there was no history of any type of criminal viloent acts from trayvon (believe me the defense... tried to dig up as much dirt on him & they could only come up with he puff on a lil weed like billy clinton in college

turn off FOXNEWS & conservative radio -dont let them brainwash u

 

[Fervid]

A gun works too. You can win a fight by not fighting it in the first place. Hey 9-11.... oh stay in the car? don't engage? Cool.

Don't start nothing, won't be nothing.

 

[PS5 Pro]

It is what it is... I firmly believe Trayvon felt Zimmerman was a creepy rapist and attacked Zim first out of fear... I firmly believe Zimmerman felt this was the robber plaguing their neighborhood... Both felt they were the good guy... However if you attack someone and don't stop when someone is pleading for help under the law you can have lethal force used against you especially a state like Florida...so bad judgement on Trayvon's part here and we all use bad judgement especially as teens so it doesn't make Trayvon a bad guy he was looking to defend himself preemptively like George Bush did with Iraq and both didn't turn out so well.

It was all just a crappy misunderstanding and had Trayvon not hit first nobody ever hears of this incident

Can't people just analyze shyt without bias... White conservatives falsely paint Trayvon as a criminal and trayvon supporters changed up the whole story to make it seem like Zimmerman was a racist who just shot him for no reason once he saw him... Come on people!

I want to remain calm, but if you listen to that tape you can clearly hear Trayvon screaming for help before he gets shot. There is nothing left to talk about. You guys are blatantly racist, some dude makes up a story and even tho the 911 tapes, the neighbors all say Zimm was in the wrong, you still like "Uh... I don't know"

I'm not waiting for you to "admit" anything. Your denial is an admittance

Here's my question to you about who was in the Wrong. Correct me if Im wrong, but Zimmerman sees a black teen walking down the street. He calls the police not because he was committing a crime, but because he was Black. If that is correct so far, there is nothing more to discuss really, The white dude felt the Black guy was a threat based on no evidence other than the color of his skin.

He can't be beating the shyt out of Zimmerman and yelling for help, In less than one minute its clear what happened. Never again tho. fukk anyone who says different.,.