Slystallion's non biased view of the Zimmerman fiasco

[Spatial Paradox]

What's so special about your response? I've read many like it over the past few months, and especially in the past few days. It certainly isn't "non-biased"...

he was looking to defend himself preemptively like George Bush did with Iraq and both didn't turn out so well.

I'd question if you're trolling, but your responses so far suggest that you just don't know what the hell you're talking about

 

[Robbie3000]

your obvioulsy young and dumb... so thats cool i guess...

COPS dont COME AT YOU with GUNS drawn on alot of ppl that are unarmed... ?? they know its the equalizer but that gun isnt comming out of the holster unless they think you have a gun or unless you hit them or pose a physical threat to them...

trayvon if he sees a gun he is booking it.. he is not super man..

zimmerman ALSO KNOWS HE CANT BE FLASHING A GUN AROUND LIKE THAT.. he isnt a cop...

why would zimmerman lay an agressive hand on him when hes got the gun... you dont need to get physical.... zimmerman also wasnt superman...

the reaches on here...

nikka i'm in my 30s and in all likelihood more educated and older than you. So don't patronize me.

You are getting lost in the weeds so much you can't see the forest for the trees. Justifying a murder on a technicality based on your own assumptions of what you think may or may not have happened when Zimmerman approached Tryvon that night.

 

[IronFist]

 

[ExodusNirvana]

nikka i'm in my 30s and in all likelihood more educated and older than you. So don't patronize me.

You are getting lost in the weeds so much you can't see the forest for the trees. Justifying a murder on a technicality based on your own assumptions of what you think may or may not have happened when Zimmerman approached Tryvon that night.

 

[Trajan]

Bush went to war to defend himself??

From Saddam's malnourished army who had suffered a decade of sanctions??

 

[Dr Dre's ProductionSkills]

i understand all that... that why i also stated if tray threw the 1s punch
what was his motive


the only way i can see it -was zimmerman ran up on him

imo.. his motive was "who the fukk is this cracker trying to check me" "fukk that "

imo trayvon sized up real quick zimmerman and and fukk this guy... had zimmerman been some deboo mofo or even another young black male then i would bet trayvon mind woudlve been thinking differently

i know it soulds shi1tty but you gonna act based on what you percieve the other person is , how they act or your perception of them...

case in point.. when i was a youngsta we used to go steal cds from like warehouse or tower records here in so cal...

dude if the attendant is some white girl or some white boy or some old asian dude trust me we were going in there thinking WHAT THE FUKK THEY GONNA DO TO STOP US... (of course in retrospect the old asian dude who was prob the owner was prob the biggest threat cause if anyone was strapped up with a gat it wouldve been him... but our attitude was that of fukk you gonna do...

well one time in south oc we were gonna go in an get a some cd's from a tower records.. (THIS IS SOUTH ORANGE COUNTY MIND YOU.. very nice area)... well some older early 40 black dude who looked as if he was a marine steps to us .. knew exactly what was going on.. says to us "you guys have 5 seconds to put back those cds or ima knock one of you the fukk out and run after the other two"... DO YOU THINK WE HAD THE SAME "FUKK YOU WHAT YOU GONNA DO " ATTITUDE WITH THAT GUY...

we took the l and never came back...

had that been some hippy nirvana white boy or the old asian dude we prob (dumb as we were) wouldve banked their azzes...

same reason now a days if you get in a fight with somebody you cant tell if theyre a nerd or what not caues if they know mma its a wrap... lol

travyon was right in that wtf was zimmerman follwing him.. i get the fact that zimmerman was wrong to do so... but once you put your hands on somebody all bets are off in a fight... im also pretty sure a 35 year old travyon handles that SITUATION VERY DIFFERENTLY ...

 

[NubianVitruvian]

Just tossing this out there, but is the absence of evidence, evidence of absence is this case?



I mean since we don't have Trayvon's side of the story, why should we believe Zimmerman? Shouldn't we not listen to him and try the case from witness accounts only? Starting with the 9-11 call?

I mean innocent until proven guilty, but we have a smoking gun, a body, and a preemptive 9-11 call.

We will never have Trayvon's motive for starting the fight.

 

[Dr Dre's ProductionSkills]

You're so goddamn stupid to not realize how egregious of a logic fallacy this is. So because we cant conclusively prove GZ threw the first punch, we can naturally conclude that Trayvon did? Are you retarded?

You're the one with a poor understanding of self-defense laws (obsessing over who threw the first punch is largely irrelevant...the standard for lethal force is having a reasonable fear that your life is in jeopardy, and those chicken scratches on GZ dont rise to that level).

Your ignorance allows for a blissful lack of awareness on how your own prejudices and biases are guiding you to your irrational conclusions. No one was holding their breath waiting for you to chime in on this, so why dont you quit while you're ahead and stop embarrassing yourself.

cops can shoot you in self defense based on a visual of a gun or weapon .... THATS A LOT LESS than somebody actually laying hands on you and thus breakin your nose or the "chicken scratches" on the back of your head

AS IF ZIMMERMAN OR ANYBODY IN A FIGHT CAN ACCURATLY GAUGE THEIR INJURIES IN ENOGUH TIME TO WARRANT USING THEIR OWN FORCE AT THEIR DISPOSAL.. in this case a gun..

trayvon can be afraid all he wants.. BUT HE IS ALSO A MEMBER OF SOCIETY AND HAS TO FOLLOW LAWS AS WELL... lets say zimmerman doesnt have a gun and the beat down continues .. COPS SHOW UP.. you think travyon is gonna slide with the EXCUSE OF "I WAS SCARED AND FEAR FOR MY LIFE"/???

you cant jus start hittin dudes cause you feel scared.. espeically in todays society cause you dont know who is strapped or has a weapon...

the fact is this was a fight gone wrong.. and a example of keeping it real going wrong.... BUT WHAT PPL ON THIS SITE AND MOST OF THE MEDIA WANT YOU TO BELIVE IS THAT THIS IS ON SOME EMMIT TILL OR the dude that got dragged to his death behind a car type event as far as racism... its not... never has been.. and a disgrace to be compared to those disgusting events..

everybody gets racially profiled... deal with it... cops here in socal are black asian and brown... IT WOULD BE DUMB OF THEM TO NOT RACIALLY PROFILE FOR THEIR SAFETY AND FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS ON THE STREET...

again some ppl here have never been in positions of authority so when you get into that position then go see how it is...

zimmerman had no position of real authoirty other than his stupid positoin of neighborhood wathc.. he over shot made a mistake.. and now will pay for it dearly... but im confident that travyon gettin profiled has more to do with his age than his race...

ZIMMERMAN WOULD BE A FUKKING MORON TO GO LOOKING FOR OLDER BLACK MALES when the mo of the burglurly suspects was young black male... he wanst going to go harrasing or following martins dad...EVER...

 

[Foxmulder]

so true..

this is a n example of "keeping it real goes wrong"..

had zimmerman done this to someone lets say martins dad ... martins dad prob says hey i live in apt 200 keep it moving or im callin da cops... REAL SIMPLE...

people here act as if zimmerman was some dude jus walking around.. HIS JOB OR DUTY WAS THE FUKKIN NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH... its was his directive to look for suspicious stuff..

yeah fukked up martin to him look suspicous but fact was martin was new there and didnt reconginze him...

ive dealt with plenty of douche rent a cops /security guards here in so cal... way overstepping their authority.. BUT I CANT JUS GO BANKING ON GUYS NOT EXPECT REPROCUSSIONS OR SCREAMIN HE PROFILED ME ...

you put your hands on someoby you better be ready for the consequcnes.. I KNOW THAT SOUNDS FUKKED UP BUT YOU ITS THE TRUTH..

ive also seen and heard of plenty of road rage incidents where "get out of the car" is being yelled and when that person gets out with a gun its a wrap...

You sound like a fukking idiot.Zimmerman has no reason to lie?

 

[Foxmulder]

cops can shoot you in self defense based on a visual of a gun or weapon .... THATS A LOT LESS than somebody actually laying hands on you and thus breakin your nose or the "chicken scratches" on the back of your head

AS IF ZIMMERMAN OR ANYBODY IN A FIGHT CAN ACCURATLY GAUGE THEIR INJURIES IN ENOGUH TIME TO WARRANT USING THEIR OWN FORCE AT THEIR DISPOSAL.. in this case a gun..

trayvon can be afraid all he wants.. BUT HE IS ALSO A MEMBER OF SOCIETY AND HAS TO FOLLOW LAWS AS WELL... lets say zimmerman doesnt have a gun and the beat down continues .. COPS SHOW UP.. you think travyon is gonna slide with the EXCUSE OF "I WAS SCARED AND FEAR FOR MY LIFE"/???

you cant jus start hittin dudes cause you feel scared.. espeically in todays society cause you dont know who is strapped or has a weapon...

the fact is this was a fight gone wrong.. and a example of keeping it real going wrong.... BUT WHAT PPL ON THIS SITE AND MOST OF THE MEDIA WANT YOU TO BELIVE IS THAT THIS IS ON SOME EMMIT TILL OR the dude that got dragged to his death behind a car type event as far as racism... its not... never has been.. and a disgrace to be compared to those disgusting events..

everybody gets racially profiled... deal with it... cops here in socal are black asian and brown... IT WOULD BE DUMB OF THEM TO NOT RACIALLY PROFILE FOR THEIR SAFETY AND FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS ON THE STREET...

again some ppl here have never been in positions of authority so when you get into that position then go see how it is...

zimmerman had no position of real authoirty other than his stupid positoin of neighborhood wathc.. he over shot made a mistake.. and now will pay for it dearly... but im confident that travyon gettin profiled has more to do with his age than his race...

ZIMMERMAN WOULD BE A FUKKING MORON TO GO LOOKING FOR OLDER BLACK MALES when the mo of the burglurly suspects was young black male... he wanst going to go harrasing or following martins dad...EVER...

I can't believe people this stupid is walking the streets.

 

[NubianVitruvian]

I can't believe people this stupid is walking the streets.

Well first they park their cars......















Woop.

 

[Dr Dre's ProductionSkills]

You sound like a fukking idiot.Zimmerman has no reason to lie?

yeah..but explain the testimony of martin on top of zimmerman.. the broken nose... the "chicken scratches" on the back of his head...

lol.. i cant belive that ppl on this board think that zimmerman took his chances on martin and started the fight by throwing punches WHILE HE HAS A GUN HE COULD JUST SHOW AND BASCIALLY HOLD DOWN MARTIN WITH THAT GUN

but NO... ZIMMERMAN OF COURSE THOEW THE FIRST PUNCH AND MARTIN JUS REACTED...wtf...

if zimmerman knew that bring out a gun to subdue an potential perp was wrong im pretty sure zimmerman was under the assumption that thowing the first punch is equally as wrong..... why cant these assumptoins be made..???

ppl here are assuming that martin was executed... he wasnt...

you can google plenty of road rage fights when keeping it real goes wrong type stories all day that mirror what happened here...

it was a fight gone wrong that is being manipulated along racial lines for whatever reason...

but take the race and the emotion out of it.. and its fairly easy to come to the same conclusions the jury did... WHAT DID THEY SAY.. THE WANTED TO CONVICT HIM OF SOMETHING BUT JUS COULDNT FIND ANYTHING TO CONVICT HIM OF... what does that tell you ABOUT THE FUKKING FACTS OF THIS CASE...

facts trump emotion...

 

[Foxmulder]

How some people just assume trayvon started it?Zimmerman has a history of violence and anger issues.He was clearly upset about the burglarys in his neighborhood.On the 911 call he says they always get away.

But we supposed to believe he went up to trayvon and said "goodnight I'm from the neighborhood watch,how you doing tonight".


Stupid mothefukkers I swear.

 

[Foxmulder]

yeah..but explain the testimony of martin on top of zimmerman.. the broken nose... the "chicken scratches" on the back of his head...

lol.. i cant belive that ppl on this board think that zimmerman took his chances on martin and started the fight by throwing punches WHILE HE HAS A GUN HE COULD JUST SHOW AND BASCIALLY HOLD DOWN MARTIN WITH THAT GUN

but NO... ZIMMERMAN OF COURSE THOEW THE FIRST PUNCH AND MARTIN JUS REACTED...wtf...

if zimmerman knew that bring out a gun to subdue an potential perp was wrong im pretty sure zimmerman was under the assumption that thowing the first punch is equally as wrong..... why cant these assumptoins be made..???

ppl here are assuming that martin was executed... he wasnt...

you can google plenty of road rage fights when keeping it real goes wrong type stories all day that mirror what happened here...

it was a fight gone wrong that is being manipulated along racial lines for whatever reason...

but take the race and the emotion out of it.. and its fairly easy to come to the same conclusions the jury did... WHAT DID THEY SAY.. THE WANTED TO CONVICT HIM OF SOMETHING BUT JUS COULDNT FIND ANYTHING TO CONVICT HIM OF... what does that tell you ABOUT THE FUKKING FACTS OF THIS CASE...

facts trump emotion...

Blah blah blah blah shut the fukk up your an idiot

 

[NubianVitruvian]

cops can shoot you in self defense based on a visual of a gun or weapon .... THATS A LOT LESS than somebody actually laying hands on you and thus breakin your nose or the "chicken scratches" on the back of your head

AS IF ZIMMERMAN OR ANYBODY IN A FIGHT CAN ACCURATLY GAUGE THEIR INJURIES IN ENOGUH TIME TO WARRANT USING THEIR OWN FORCE AT THEIR DISPOSAL.. in this case a gun..

trayvon can be afraid all he wants.. BUT HE IS ALSO A MEMBER OF SOCIETY AND HAS TO FOLLOW LAWS AS WELL... lets say zimmerman doesnt have a gun and the beat down continues .. COPS SHOW UP.. you think travyon is gonna slide with the EXCUSE OF "I WAS SCARED AND FEAR FOR MY LIFE"/???

you cant jus start hittin dudes cause you feel scared.. espeically in todays society cause you dont know who is strapped or has a weapon...

the fact is this was a fight gone wrong.. and a example of keeping it real going wrong.... BUT WHAT PPL ON THIS SITE AND MOST OF THE MEDIA WANT YOU TO BELIVE IS THAT THIS IS ON SOME EMMIT TILL OR the dude that got dragged to his death behind a car type event as far as racism... its not... never has been.. and a disgrace to be compared to those disgusting events..

everybody gets racially profiled... deal with it... cops here in socal are black asian and brown... IT WOULD BE DUMB OF THEM TO NOT RACIALLY PROFILE FOR THEIR SAFETY AND FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS ON THE STREET...

again some ppl here have never been in positions of authority so when you get into that position then go see how it is...

zimmerman had no position of real authoirty other than his stupid positoin of neighborhood wathc.. he over shot made a mistake.. and now will pay for it dearly... but im confident that travyon gettin profiled has more to do with his age than his race...

ZIMMERMAN WOULD BE A FUKKING MORON TO GO LOOKING FOR OLDER BLACK MALES when the mo of the burglurly suspects was young black male... he wanst going to go harrasing or following martins dad...EVER...

Zimmerman feared for his life. After he left his car and 9-11 said not too. (disobeying the law, vigilante)