Slystallion's non biased view of the Zimmerman fiasco

[PS5 Pro]

Got it, you were completely oblivious to what transpired in the court room

You didn't answer my question. You could have, then you could have made your dumbass comment. The Russ smiley is you thinking too highly of yourself.
Now you want to answer the question or not

EDIT: And tell Sleepy Sly who is still online that I said hi....

 

[Lakers Offseason]

You didn't answer my question. You could have, then you could have made your dumbass comment. The Russ smiley is you thinking too highly of yourself.
Now you want to answer the question or not

EDIT: And tell Sleepy Sly who is still online that I said hi....

I'll play the game. Which question?

 

[TNC]

2 facts here...

If Zimmerman stays in car....nobody hears of this situation ever!

If Trayvon doesn't make first strike...nobody hears of this situation ever!

Both happened to use judgement that led to a tragic outcome...there are no good guys or bad guys here.

Its like a scene from crash where both sides had preconceived notions and it was a misunderstanding on both sides

There is no evidence that Treyvon made the first strike.


In a situation involving a child and an adult, I expect the adult to be the responsible and level headed one in the situation, not the child. You can't expect a child to be immature.


Have you ever been beaten up by a high schooler? :smugcena:

 

[A.J.Soprano]

It is what it is... I firmly believe Trayvon felt Zimmerman was a creepy rapist and attacked Zim first out of fear... I firmly believe Zimmerman felt this was the robber plaguing their neighborhood... Both felt they were the good guy... However if you attack someone and don't stop when someone is pleading for help under the law you can have lethal force used against you especially a state like Florida...so bad judgement on Trayvon's part here and we all use bad judgement especially as teens so it doesn't make Trayvon a bad guy he was looking to defend himself preemptively like George Bush did with Iraq and both didn't turn out so well.

It was all just a crappy misunderstanding and had Trayvon not hit first nobody ever hears of this incident

Can't people just analyze shyt without bias... White conservatives falsely paint Trayvon as a criminal and trayvon supporters changed up the whole story to make it seem like Zimmerman was a racist who just shot him for no reason once he saw him... Come on people!

realest post I've ever heard on this situation

 

[thevarangian]

How is that different than Zimmerman talking to police first, then going against what they told him and brought A GUN

Now if she felt like her life was in danger, why couldn't she leave to get the gun If she was really trying to kill him she would have. She fired a warning shot. People fire warning shots when they are trying to keep themselves safe from danger. So its clear she "felt" in danger. But the "Jury" of here peers didn't agree. So here's that 2nd law I was talking about...

If the female had already had the gun with her during the original argument with her husband and fired the shot, she likely wouldn't be charged. But that didn't happen. She LEFT the harmful situation. By leaving she removed the immediate threat of great bodily harm. From there she could have called the cops, she could have went to a lawyer, she could have done a lot of things. But she didn't, she acquired a gun and went BACK to the situation. In this context, getting the gun implied intent to use it and she did. Those "warning shots" could have easily ricocheted and hit someone, killing them. I'm sorry, but she mad a bad judgement call and committed a valid crime in the process.

In GZ's case, he ALREADY had the gun. Legally. There was no implied intent to necessarily use it because, well, he'd had it the entire time and probably had it for quite a while before that. If GZ had not had his gun and decided to go back to his place and acquire it before following TM, he very likely would not be walking free right now.

Now again, I think the law is fukking silly in Florida. I think the 10, 20, Life rule has lead to a woman who made a bad judgment call to get put away for much longer than she deserves but I do think she deserves punishment for what she did. GZ just happened to fall into a situation that protected him legally. It very easily could have gone a different way.

 

[PS5 Pro]

If the female had already had the gun with her during the original argument with her husband and fired the shot, she likely wouldn't be charged. But that didn't happen. She LEFT the harmful situation. By leaving she removed the immediate threat of great bodily harm. From there she could have called the cops, she could have went to a lawyer, she could have done a lot of things. But she didn't, she acquired a gun and went BACK to the situation. In this context, getting the gun implied intent to use it and she did. Those "warning shots" could have easily ricocheted and hit someone, killing them. I'm sorry, but she mad a bad judgement call and committed a valid crime in the process.

In GZ's case, he ALREADY had the gun. Legally. There was no implied intent to necessarily use it because, well, he'd had it the entire time and probably had it for quite a while before that. If GZ had not had his gun and decided to go back to his place and acquire it before following TM, he very likely would not be walking free right now.

Now again, I think the law is fukking silly in Florida. I think the 10, 20, Life rule has lead to a woman who made a bad judgment call to get put away for much longer than she deserves but I do think she deserves punishment for what she did. GZ just happened to fall into a situation that protected him legally. It very easily could have gone a different way.

Where you think she went, to another state then drove back
Or did she go into another room? Maybe you never had a girl before? But arguments get heated sometimes, and when they do? People say stupid shyt in the heat of the moment. So she goes and gets her gun in her own home, WTF are you talking about she could of left? Why, cuz you saying so now? Show me where you seen that she could have left? Not even the husband alluded to that

Then you want to turn around and say "she could of called the police, not go back to the situation with a gun"

You mean, exactly what Zimmerman did? He called the police, they told him to stand down. He said fukk that, took the gun to party and murdered a child who he outweighed by 100lbs. Claiming the child just was beating his ass even though he takes MMA classes 3x a week. Your giving zimmerman every single benefit of the doubt here I wonder why. Bet it has something to do with a car horn

 

[NZA]

I shouldn't laugh, but the way you described it, I finally see it as some Jon Woo shyt

he didn't have the presence of mind to swing back/protect himself, but he kept his composure enough to masterfully take out his gun, cock it, and shoot

and i havent even addressed how plausible it is for a man having his head slammed on concrete to be able to loudly and clearly scream for help so long, or if a man with a loaded gun is likely to ever scream for help at all.

i suspect that trayvon knew he couldnt get the gun, so he was trying to keep zimmerman from pointing it at him and was screaming for somebody to get him out of that situation.

i think that for the duration of the screaming, trayvon is either on top, punching him with one hand, and trying to keep zimmerman from pointing the gun with the other hand, or they move to a standing position while struggling over the gun.

the standing position is pretty plausible when you consider that the witnesses to the fighting only see parts of the fight, not the entire fight, not the screaming part, and not the shooting part. so the fight could have gone from the ground back to standing. it also makes sense that so little dna was exchanged between them. trayvons bleeding heart doesnt get any blood on zimmerman even thought he should be directly on top. when shot, his body should drop onto zimmerman, and if zimmerman is as short and weak as everybody keeps insisting, he should have struggled to get trayvon off of him. instead, the witnesses see them separated, and trayvons body on the ground with his hands folded underneath him

so however this scenario works out, whether fully on the ground or having transtioned back onto their feet, i think the fight was eventually over the gun (neighbors heard arguing before the fighting. this is a chance for zimmerman to pull a gun out) which i think causes trayvon to fear for his life, and zimmerman to be hit in the face which in turn causes him to shoot

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Who cares about your view you new jersey guido. eat a dikk.

 

[NZA]

youve never had a gun pulled on you then..... YOU HAVE GUN PULLED ON YOU UNLESS YOU HAVE A DEATH WISH OR COKED/SHERMED OUT OF YOUR MIND YOU ARE NOT GOING TO ENGAGE THAT OTHER PARTY...

lets not all of a sudden give travyon superman status here... kid was 17 ... HE ISNT GOING TO SEE A GUN POINTED AT HIM OR EVEN EXPOSED AND ALL OF A SUDDEN ENGAGE...

HELL IF HE WOULDVE SAW A GUN IM 1000% SURE HE WOULDVE RAN THE OTHER DIRECTION AS ALL OF US WOULD....


that gun holster from you back is SUCH NOT A STRECH... ive also seen ppl pull exactoknifes from their pocket as they were gettin beat down ground an pound style... all it takes is half a sec of no punching for that gun weapon to come out...

you dont know the position of the two people when the gun is shown. remember, witnesses heard an argument before the fight. at this point, zimmerman is close enough to trayvon to carry on an argument with him, and close enough to get hit in the nose. i am not saying tray ran up to him while he had the gun out, i am saying it is plausible that they were too close for trayvon to do anything else once the gun was revealed.

 

[Street Knowledge]

The most disgusting part of this whole thing was how long they took to arrest zimmerman

This dude killed a child and walked around the streets like nothing happened for over a month

 

[Nigerianwonder]

There is no evidence that Treyvon made the first strike.


In a situation involving a child and an adult, I expect the adult to be the responsible and level headed one in the situation, not the child. You can't expect a child to be immature.


Have you ever been beaten up by a high schooler? :smugcena:

This is a key point often overlooked in this debate. The judgment of kid 3 weeks past his 17th birthday should never be compared to that of a 30+ year old armed man with CCW and trained in mixed martial arts.

The thinking that Trayvon, a kid, was supposed to only make rational mature decisions in the wake of being followed by an adult predator while the armed and trained adult is given the benefit of making an error in judgement is solely due to the color Trayvon's skin. Black teens are not allowed to treated like teens of other races and be protected under the law from adult predators and be afforded the benefit of being young and immature... Somehow, these racists keep thinking that Trayvon should have made better decisions than the 30+ year old adult following him... Trayvon could have been the size of Lebron James but his mentality was still that of 17 teen year old.

 

[Tom Foolery]

It is what it is... I firmly believe Trayvon felt Zimmerman was a creepy rapist and attacked Zim first out of fear... I firmly believe Zimmerman felt this was the robber plaguing their neighborhood... Both felt they were the good guy... However if you attack someone and don't stop when someone is pleading for help under the law you can have lethal force used against you especially a state like Florida...so bad judgement on Trayvon's part here and we all use bad judgement especially as teens so it doesn't make Trayvon a bad guy he was looking to defend himself preemptively like George Bush did with Iraq and both didn't turn out so well.

It was all just a crappy misunderstanding and had Trayvon not hit first nobody ever hears of this incident

Can't people just analyze shyt without bias... White conservatives falsely paint Trayvon as a criminal and trayvon supporters changed up the whole story to make it seem like Zimmerman was a racist who just shot him for no reason once he saw him... Come on people!

How can you have an unbiased view but believe Trayvon hit him first?

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Everybody is so tough on the Internet come on the podcast and talk to me like that...but seriously go jerk off or something and release your anger

I don't have time to sit here and read courtdogs soliloquies...the court's letter already stated the independent experts state there is no way to discern who's voice it was

Jeantel already stated Trayvon thought Zim was a gay rapist and he went to knock Zimmerman out

So outside of the voices there is no evidence...my hero definitely isn't some overweight dude who gets his ass whipped by a teen I'm calling it how I see it i know who I am so call me whatever you want

Real people I'm cool with here know i don't have malice

I would honestly smack the fukk out of you in real life for spitting this ignorant shyt in public no lie. fukk with me if you want. I can only hope some grown man kills your son in the street like a dog one day. I would love you see how quick you would come to the "night watchman's defense" if Trayvon was your fukking kid.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

This is a key point often overlooked in this debate. The judgment of kid 3 weeks past his 17th birthday should never be compared to that of a 30+ year old armed man with CCW and trained in mixed martial arts.

The thinking that Trayvon, a kid, was supposed to only make rational mature decisions in the wake of being followed by an adult predator while the armed and trained adult is given the benefit of making an error in judgement is solely due to the color Trayvon's skin. Black teens are not allowed to treated like teens of other races and be protected under the law from adult predators and be afforded the benefit of being young and immature... Somehow, these racists keep thinking that Trayvon should have made better decisions than the 30+ year old adult following him... Trayvon could have been the size of Lebron James but his mentality was still that of 17 teen year old.

Its disgusting really. People are seriously adamantly defending this racist monster Zimmerman. I'm just glad cases like this occur regularly, to remind the c00ns what the system truly thinks of them. nikkas need a wake up call every now and then and this is an excellent example of that.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

How can you have an unbiased view but believe Trayvon hit him first?

Because he is a racist piece of shyt troll that came here to antagonize the board that's all. All we can do is hope all the racist Zimmerman supporter's kids are gunned down in the street like dogs in the name of stand your ground. It'll be the only way they'll be able to sympathize with the injustice of this sitatuation. Clowns like the TS are essentially incapable of sympathizing with black injustice. Its unfortunate really.