Slystallion's non biased view of the Zimmerman fiasco

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You think??? Dude were you there? Thats not how you can decide a case if you were a juror, you don't imagine scenarios as if you were writing story.

Why didn't the prosecution have some sort of fight expert or actually have 2 people display how "impossible" getting your gun out would be? Because its just how YOU think it's impossible to pull out a gun under those circumstances it doesn't make it impossible and i doubt you have actually did an experiment to see if you can take your gun out of your holster under those circumstances.
i wasnt there, nor were any of zimmerman's supporters, yet i have heard and read ample descriptions of trayvon's thug mindset and actions, and how that impacted his judgement and zimmerman's justifiable behavior. im just adding my own form of speculation into the fray.

i want to know how trayvon can be mounting someone yet see the gun at the same time, remark that "you're gonna die tonight", then reach for it yet fail to do so as zimmerman gets it first, moves the gun to trayvon's front and fires. all while tryavon is beating him to death and has his body resting on the part of zimmeran's body where the gun should be holstered
 

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so true..

this is a n example of "keeping it real goes wrong"..

had zimmerman done this to someone lets say martins dad ... martins dad prob says hey i live in apt 200 keep it moving or im callin da cops... REAL SIMPLE...

people here act as if zimmerman was some dude jus walking around.. HIS JOB OR DUTY WAS THE FUKKIN NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH... its was his directive to look for suspicious stuff..

yeah fukked up martin to him look suspicous but fact was martin was new there and didnt reconginze him...

ive dealt with plenty of douche rent a cops /security guards here in so cal... way overstepping their authority.. BUT I CANT JUS GO BANKING ON GUYS NOT EXPECT REPROCUSSIONS OR SCREAMIN HE PROFILED ME ...

you put your hands on someoby you better be ready for the consequcnes.. I KNOW THAT SOUNDS FUKKED UP BUT YOU ITS THE TRUTH..

ive also seen and heard of plenty of road rage incidents where "get out of the car" is being yelled and when that person gets out with a gun its a wrap...

You are a piece of shyt simpleton faggit. How do you know Trayvon threw the first punch? Zimmerman sounded awfully angry on that 911 call. If the other guy is not armed and you are the one who initiated the confrontation, why would you use a lethal weapon?

fukk you and 'logic' faggit.

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You know who else thought they were good guys, the guys that lynched blacks in the 1800's. Just because Zimmerman thought he was a good guy doesn't mean he was and doesn't mean it was any sought of justification for what he did.

such a pathetic stretch...

youve obviously never been in a position of power or authority...


the oakland bart incdent was 100x worse that this...

this was a pick em fist fight gone wrong. cause travyon didnt know the rule of some ppl who get in fights have weapons

its funny cause this similar to what ice cube said... rather be judged by 12 than buried by 6....

if any of us were be dumb enough to be in the position zimmerman was ( replace trayvon with a type like ray lewis ) WED ALL PROB DONE THE SAME THING...

but here in AMERICA a pick em fight going wrong all of a sudden is akin to a lynching... smh
 

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You are a piece of shyt simpleton faggit. How do you know Trayvon threw the first punch? Zimmerman sounded awfully angry on that 911 call. If the other guy is not armed and you are the one who initiated the confrontation, why would you use a lethal weapon?

fukk you and 'logic' faggit.

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your obvioulsy young and dumb... so thats cool i guess...

COPS dont COME AT YOU with GUNS drawn on alot of ppl that are unarmed... ?? they know its the equalizer but that gun isnt comming out of the holster unless they think you have a gun or unless you hit them or pose a physical threat to them...

trayvon if he sees a gun he is booking it.. he is not super man..

zimmerman ALSO KNOWS HE CANT BE FLASHING A GUN AROUND LIKE THAT.. he isnt a cop...

why would zimmerman lay an agressive hand on him when hes got the gun... you dont need to get physical.... zimmerman also wasnt superman...

the reaches on here...
 

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I'm calling it how I see it...i have no horse in this race...i go on freerepublic and they want to paint Trayvon like some sort of gang banger who murders puppies....its disgusting

and you guys can't see fukking logic if it hit you with a 2x4 straight to the head

not everything is racism...only race factor here is that in Zimmerman's eyes Trayvon fit the description of the robber...

Again both of these guys used judgement that wasn't good...Zimmerman thought he was Batman and Trayvon snuck the guy without realizing the danger he put himself in by doing that

At worse if he doesn't sneak Zimmerman he gets some questions by Zimmerman Trayvon tells him he is walking home the police come they search him unlawfully most likely find the skittles and tell him to go home or drive him to his house

the world is unaware of the existence of those two if either side just didn't make those decisions

Only story we have id zimmermans breh, and zimmermans memory is fuzzy on every detail that could paint him as the aggressor, cant explain how he got punched and fell to the ground 44ft away. Cant explain how he was able to get his gun out and everybody pretty much agreed that it would have been impossible if he was on his back with trayvon on top. He had to have his gun out already and pulling a weapon on someone is aggravated assault, at that point it is trayvon thats fearing for his life, zimmerman was committing a crime by pulling a gun on trayvon and therefore cant claim self defense which is why he would lie about that detail. Now the body was 40ft from the spot he claimed it happen and he claimed he went to the ground after being punched, the body being 40 feet away, towards where trayvon lived shows that he might have in fact kept in pursuit and that shows he may have confronted trayvon, which is why he would lie about where it happen.


I agree that this was not a race issue, and more of an issue of a guy thinking its ok to pack a loaded gun and police his neighborhood, we have cops for a reason and when people think they can do the police work themselfs, horrible accidents like this happens. And you dont just walk away from shyt like someone getting killed because of your actions with "oop, my bad". But he did, and I think that has to do more with who his dad is and less about trayvons race, I truly believe if zimmerman killed a white kid the police department would try to cover it up still because of who his dad is.

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These pig Latin speaking fukks.. one dude said: "Don't bring skittles to a gun fight"

Didn't Zimmerman even approach from behind?

Truth is, they know they are wrong and insult our intelligence and their own by trying to make us think otherwise. In the words of Papoose, "Stop living in denial, the Nile is a river in Egypt" :pacspit: The American Dream is over.

Ignore them, let them drown in their self pity and ignorance while we smile at them from the Ark.

We lost a soldier. He fought for his life and died well. Zimmerman was the assailant when the law said don't leave his car. They will not even acknowledge this fact, they will bring up something else, because any of us would have fought for our lives, by their logic, if approached like that. This they admit.

Like I said let them flail and fight their own idiocy, hypocrisy, ignorance, etc. They have just exposed themselves for what they truly are.
 

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Zimmerman had a gun. Trayvon had a bag of Skittles.

Stop making excuses.

:ufdup:

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Exactly...if you are a black man in 2013 walking around without gun might as well put "merk me" on your forehead.

these cacs don't give a fukk about you.
 

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you think weak azz zimmerman is throwing the first blow??? wtf..

if you know you have a gun on you why would you even waste your time throwing a "first "punch.. you already have the superior advantage that requires no fist fight...

thats how you know travyon threw the first punch...

hell if zimmerman pulls out a gun and shows it to martin, no way martin engages him... hed fall back.. the gun came out after he was gettin his azz beat...

not to hard to figure that out..

and ive seen this type of situation play out tons of time on the street... one guy hits up anther party says whats up or what u looking at.. other guy checks him.. guy gets overwhelmed and gun or knife comes out as the equalizer... NOW IF THE PERSON SAYING WHAT YOUR LOOKING AT HAD A GUN OR KNIFE IN THEIR HAND THE OTHER PERSON WOULD HAVE TO STAND DOWN AND PROB DOESNT ENGAGE HIM CAUSE YOU KNOW THE RULE.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FISTS V. GUNS /KNIFE IS NOT A FAIR FIGHT...

i understand all that... that why i also stated if tray threw the 1s punch
what was his motive


the only way i can see it -was zimmerman ran up on him
 

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This is where you guys are not seeing the logic and seem to fail to understand law and are going purely on emotion

There is no proof of the confrontation only Zimmerman's account of the story and some witnesses who were far away who saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman

Officially the only story we have is that Trayvon threw the first punch and the prosecution couldn't conjure up any evidence to the contrary...the way the law works is zimmerman doesn't have to prove that Trayvon threw the first punch the prosecution has to disprove Zimmerman's account and they failed to do so

so as an unbiased observer or if I was a juror i would have no fukking choice but to conclude that Trayvon threw the first punch

You're so goddamn stupid to not realize how egregious of a logic fallacy this is. So because we cant conclusively prove GZ threw the first punch, we can naturally conclude that Trayvon did? Are you retarded?

You're the one with a poor understanding of self-defense laws (obsessing over who threw the first punch is largely irrelevant...the standard for lethal force is having a reasonable fear that your life is in jeopardy, and those chicken scratches on GZ dont rise to that level).

Your ignorance allows for a blissful lack of awareness on how your own prejudices and biases are guiding you to your irrational conclusions. No one was holding their breath waiting for you to chime in on this, so why dont you quit while you're ahead and stop embarrassing yourself.
 

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Trayvon struck first without waiting to see if Zimmerman was truly going to attack him. You have to be sure before you strike someone that you are in danger



no no no...

fear
noun
1.
a distressing emotion aroused by impending danger, evil, pain, etc., whether the threat is real or imagined;

in order for you to believe that trayvon feared zimmerman and that he should not have hit zimmerman is if you dont believe fighting is an actual response to fear or you are prejudice...you say you not bias so i will conclude you dont think fighting is an apt response to being afraid,,.well it is...
 

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Why the fukk don't 'White' people understand racism???

:mindblown:

Like talking to a fukking wall.​

Because for a long time whites and europeans engaged in the raping and destruction of other cultures and people, until eventually those cultures either had enough and pushed back or a few sensible people said that it was wrong and gave into concessions.

However, those concessions were clearly not enough and in the case of the U.S. it left many minorities equal protection under SOME laws but not equal protection against discrimination or other laws that may unfairly target said minorities ie. The War on Drugs.

Since these laws do not directly effect them, they do not understand the plight of the people that those laws DO effect.

Also SlyStallion like Gundumb Zeta is a terrible...TERRIBLE human being.
 

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This is where you guys are not seeing the logic and seem to fail to understand law and are going purely on emotion

There is no proof of the confrontation only Zimmerman's account of the story and some witnesses who were far away who saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman

Officially the only story we have is that Trayvon threw the first punch and the prosecution couldn't conjure up any evidence to the contrary...the way the law works is zimmerman doesn't have to prove that Trayvon threw the first punch the prosecution has to disprove Zimmerman's account and they failed to do so

so as an unbiased observer or if I was a juror i would have no fukking choice but to conclude that Trayvon threw the first punch

what are u talking bout

if u believe tray threw the 1st punch then u need to give me a motive????
logic would say zimmerman ran up on tray & had to feel like throwing a punch was the only he could defend himself

otherwise why would tray throw the 1st punch...

ur problem is u keep saying words like tray supporters are basing this off emotions YET most of the facts & logic falls into trayvon favor

u believe in a guy who changed his story on what actally happen


1st it was he lost trayvon while following him & then tray hid in the bushes & attacked him outta nowhere

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following him trayvon on the back side of these apt. then confronting him with in a mild manner thereafter tray swinging on him knocking him down

again the logic/facts DOSE NOT support zimmerman
 

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It is what it is... I firmly believe Trayvon felt Zimmerman was a creepy rapist and attacked Zim first out of fear... I firmly believe Zimmerman felt this was the robber plaguing their neighborhood... Both felt they were the good guy... However if you attack someone and don't stop when someone is pleading for help under the law you can have lethal force used against you especially a state like Florida...so bad judgement on Trayvon's part here and we all use bad judgement especially as teens so it doesn't make Trayvon a bad guy he was looking to defend himself preemptively like George Bush did with Iraq and both didn't turn out so well.

It was all just a crappy misunderstanding and had Trayvon not hit first nobody ever hears of this incident

Can't people just analyze shyt without bias... White conservatives falsely paint Trayvon as a criminal and trayvon supporters changed up the whole story to make it seem like Zimmerman was a racist who just shot him for no reason once he saw him... Come on people!

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how the hell youknow trayvon attacked zimmerman first for no reason :dahell:
 
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