She Broke that Nikka Cam Newton down to Particles! Keep Her Away from Nick Cannon

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She's telling him you're a deadbeat as you type this. :wow:

As a grown man, you have to check and try your best to control your emotions or it will knock you off daily game.

One day, she forgot she was talking me and said that I have not done anything for my child. Mind you, I keep every receipt. Not only do I pay $1,500 in child support but I buy clothes, pampers, and educational toys. You can't control others.
 

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As a grown man, you have to check and try your best to control your emotions or it will knock you off daily game.

One day, she forgot she was talking me and said that I have not done anything for my child. Mind you, I keep every receipt. Not only do I pay $1,500 in child support but I buy clothes, pampers, and educational toys. You can't control others.


You're a better man than me. There would be chalk lines, yellow tape and detectives milling around her apartment if that was my reality. Possible swat team stand off and suicide by cop as well.
 

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Nothing is going to change

U think any woman on a LARGE SCALE IN OUR COMMUNITY is going to either go for the regular 9 to 5 dude who makes 45/50/60 k a year and is a good man

Or they going to pick a entertainer/athlete who makes high 6/7 figures and despite having 4/5/6/7 kids by different women to have a kid with..

We all know the answer to that
Most women in our community are with regular men
 

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You're a better man than me. There would be chalk lines, yellow tape and detectives milling around her apartment if that was my reality. Possible swat team stand off and suicide by cop as well.

I watch a lot of YouTube videos. I've seen many videos of couples having major domestic disputes that result to murder.

Nothing comes good outta that. The child will be without a mother and father. Though situation.
 

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Thats valid. And that where the work is needed. I dont think that energy is best used on the likes of Cam and Nick however. Rich famous dudes play by different rules. Everyday nikkas aint talkin bout "Send em God" :mjlol:
Nah, they’re just shooting up various clubs and going :manny:
 

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By the age of ~40 close to 80% of brehs have at least one kid.
There isn’t some large swath of grown ass men out here who are childless lol

And high 5-6 figures?? What’s the percentage of brehs who make that? Not many because we have the lowest median salary in this nation. Black folks are the brokest in this country, so we don’t have to tailor this to the 6 certs 6 figure subset.
And the white college girls are doing the same thing as any other girl trying to get married- they are dating and falling in love and making it clear they want marriage.
Ain’t no young girls out here saying what they “won’t do” for their man :unimpressed: That’s when women get jaded down the road.


Majority of these girls aren’t doing anything beyond the normal stuff girls do with their boyfriends.
White and Asian cultures in general make it clear that their young men need to be preparing for marriage. You can see the same in African cultures.
Y’all talk about shame, but Black culture doesn’t shame Black men for anything.
The condition of the hood, having kids out of wedlock, etc. Black women get shamed by a certain age or if they have more than one kid out of wedlock, but y’all don’t get shamed by Black society.
And look, I’m not saying we don’t have room for improvement, but culturally- no. On a grand scale our young men are not out here pushed to be ready to propose at 26-30.
I’ve said it before, it happened in my family, but they were on top of their sons to knock out grad school, be homeowners and be in a position to afford an engagement ring by 30/31. But that isn’t typical experience in our community. It used to be, back when we had the highest marriage rates.


I mean dawg— this site is the home of “GMB”, and most of these dudes ain’t being facetious!
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The ultimate point is women have to peep game and not fall for it, but men need to wrap it up if they know they don’t want kids.



This Cam interview is going viral because his cavalier attitude is NOT new. What’s new is someone looking men in the eye and saying that a man having multiple babies is as unappealing and dysfunctional as a woman being a babymomma.
He thought it was different for him cuz he’s rich.
And this is what I mean with the slippery shyt and people just accepting these wild ass statements about black men

80% of black men having kids is not only inaccurate but is a ridiculous notion on its face, but again it just sounds like it makes sense because the prevailing sentiment is black men are baby mama factories

That 80% stat is commonly used and is not even an accurate representation. It's either bad faith or not knowing how statistics work

54% of black men in this country are childless. 46% of black men are father's. Of that 46%, 80% had at least one child by the time they were 40. The remaining 20% had a child between 40-50. Again the majority of black men are CHILDLESS.

61% of black women are mothers, meaning the majority of them have children. Of that 61%, 37% were married when they had a child

Again this thing of trying to make Cam, Nick Cannon, Future, the face of all black men is bullshyt and the media working the way it's always worked regarding black men. The baby mama factories are a small number of men getting a large number of women pregnant. And like I said in my previous post this minority of men has become the face of ALL black men because it's so easy to blindly believe the worst about us, even amongst ourselves.

Again Cam has 8 kids. He wasn't raping these women. Baby mamas 2-8 made a decision. But every time that notion comes up the shaming tactics come out too

I won't even address "black culture doesn't shame black men for anything" seriously. This is half true but let's tell it all. The black men that get shamed by black culture still get to fukk the same women that are shaming them:manny: I've been one of those nikkas multiple times. I don't have a child thankfully but I fit many stereotypes and shouldn't be able to fukk with some of the women I do:mjlol: Again if we're gonna talk about this shyt let's tell it all

And sticking with stats let's also mention that more black men are married than black women, and black women out number black men by two million, so what are we really talking about here?

And I actually agree that black men aren't raised to be marriage minded, but that same meta applies to black women not being raised to be wives, that's why your "Them other women ain't doing anything different" borders on bad faith double speak. Then you mention it's the older women being jaded, but who are those older, jaded women raising? Jaded daughters and sons:manny:

I won't pull arms about the financials because it's almost off topic (even though I brought it up), but although yes it's true that black folks make the least, the idea that "where are the black men with money at we can't find them" is a gaslight. There are more men like the ones in your family than the media is representing, and a lot of those men don't want to get married. Why is that?

This topic and thread has been good for people to dance and feel good about demonizing all black men for the few that are encouraged to behave the way they do, but a lot of the dancing is to the tune of lies.

It's a good Internet dopamine hit to feel like Cam got put in his place, but this serves more as an advertisement to baby mamas 9,10,11 if we're really being honest
 

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Nothing is going to change

U think any woman on a LARGE SCALE IN OUR COMMUNITY is going to either go for the regular 9 to 5 dude who makes 45/50/60 k a year and is a good man

Or they going to pick a entertainer/athlete who makes high 6/7 figures and despite having 4/5/6/7 kids by different women to have a kid with..

We all know the answer to that
Your premise is flawed because most of those women "on a large scale" don't have the option

Most regular men are with regular women

Most women don't have the ability to be knocked up by a rich entertainer
 
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OF THE FATHERS WHO ARE PRESENT, Black men are the most involved/interactive of all the races. Which is amazing.

What’s the percentage of Black fathers in the house compared to other races— that’s the question.
I thought 70 percent of black babies were born out of wedlock? Most of those fathers aren’t living with their baby mother(s)
 
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Exactly.

Compare that to the percentage of men of other races who are under the same roof as their kids.

The ideal situation is to be a family under one roof no question… but it looks like y’all are saying black men are great fathers, even if they are not in the same house as the child. Which one is it?
 

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Nothing is going to change

U think any woman on a LARGE SCALE IN OUR COMMUNITY is going to either go for the regular 9 to 5 dude who makes 45/50/60 k a year and is a good man

Or they going to pick a entertainer/athlete who makes high 6/7 figures and despite having 4/5/6/7 kids by different women to have a kid with..

We all know the answer to that


Do you interact with black women?

You talk like a man who has only dated white women and seeks to continue to justify dating white women
 

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Good points. Also I've noticed a lot of these men with baby mamas ironically have mothers (many of whom were BMs themselves) that make excuse after excuse for their sons trifling behavior and often demonize the women ("She decided to have the baby", "She knew his situation", etc). That has to stop too.
:dahell:how is pointing out bad decision making demonizing?

There's no lack of ridicule for Cam's views and behavior, but when his accomplices are mentioned it's demonizing?

These type of arguments do more harm than good. Y'all are infantalizing these grown women
 
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