Doobie Doo
Veteran
And what responsibility does the man who is shooting out the sperm have?
0% until the baby is born. You 100% decide whether that baby is born or not.
And what responsibility does the man who is shooting out the sperm have?
Dawg. Why were condoms invented?0% until the baby is born. You 100% decide whether that baby is born or not.
I get it and I know we try to #bothsides everything but sex doesn't happen without the woman's consent.
And what responsibility does the man who is shooting out the sperm have?
That’s the only question I’m asking.
Why are y’all so quick to absolve men?
I already said both the man and woman in the scenario are idiots.
It takes TWO idiots to create the problem. The female idiot is the one left holding the bag.
because other forms of birth control weren;t invented yet.Dawg. Why were condoms invented?
You're being disingenuous and arguing in bad faith. Nobody's absolving Cam of anything. The problem is when y'all try to make Cam the face of all black men. Again it was all good when you were saying 80% of black men have kids and we're getting daps and "Good points", now nikkas "absolving men" while this thread and twitter is shytting on Cam(deservedly)
And what responsibility does the man who is shooting out the sperm have?
That’s the only question I’m asking.
Why are y’all so quick to absolve men?
I already said both the man and woman in the scenario are idiots.
It takes TWO idiots to create the problem. The female idiot is the one left holding the bag.
Black men wear condoms. That's why most of them are childlessDawg. Why were condoms invented?
Thank you. Us as individuals are always going. Men and women are learning to be better people as they raise a child who is also growing.She was mostly right but some of that was projection...
Being a good father isn't dependent on being in the same home as the child. Does that generally increase of the potential for rearing healthy, loving children? Sure, I'd agree that it increases the potential and it's the ideal scenario...
I'll also agree that at some point, having children in too many homes becomes too large of a cross to balance proportionally. He's got three different mothers of his kids, so this is really testing the limits here, but is probably doable if you have the means and live local to your children...
After that these conversations eschew reality, which is, some relationships break down, and that your ability to be a great father doesn't change from you not being in the home, though you will have to adapt your parenting to meet the reality of not being in the home...
If all it took was just being in the home or having your kid(s) by one woman, we wouldn't know so many of us who grew up with fathers in the home who beat us; couldnt financially provide for us because they couldnt keep a job; couldnt financially provide for us because they didnt have a skill to make more income; neglected us; molested or raped us; were drug or alcohol addicts; had no extra kids but were womanizers; beat our mothers; not attending our events or clubs or sports activities; etc. Anyone black who didn't grow up with a Carlton Banks background knows black families where dad was in the home and experienced these woes...
On top of that, those of you who love "traditional men", which are alot of us black people, the traditional bar is that the man is the breadwinner which in the real world, where we know only 6% of Black men make $100k income-plus---->in the real world a traditional man being the breadwinner means he's working long hours and long weeks and he'd need to work extra hard to make time for his kids anyway. Which, many of them just want rest after working so hard to be able to provide for their kids...
And before nikkas in here project on me, I have 3 kids with two women and want no more.............maybe one more once im with the woman I'm with the rest of my life. But I'm very, very comfortable with my 3 daughters, not seeking more, not looking to repopulate the city...
I'd say Dr Bryant was 80% correct but she and too many other people stray this convo away from real life...
As a father your goal of being with one woman can change based on circumstance but you should understand how to remain a great dad regardless of if that relationship ends or not...
Cam ain’t the face of all Black men and no one said that.You're being disingenuous and arguing in bad faith. Nobody's absolving Cam of anything. The problem is when y'all try to make Cam the face of all black men. Again it was all good when you were saying 80% of black men have kids and we're getting daps and "Good points", now nikkas "absolving men" while this thread and twitter is shytting on Cam(deservedly)
You keep glitching out at the fact that these men cannot do what they do without women willing to fukk them. Nobody's getting raped here both the man and the women are intentionally creating kids
For the third unanswered time, if most black men are childless what are they supposed to do about the Cams and Nick Cannon's? This is not a troll question
And that’s all ppl are pointing out.Thank you. Us as individuals are always going. Men and women are learning to be better people as they raise a child who is also growing.
That's why the saying that it takes a village to raise a child is the ultimate truth. Things your parents can't provide like wisdom, guidance etc could be provided by grandparents, uncles aunties and even local neighbors at times.
This is no defense of cam though because at a certain point too many children with different baby mama's can't be managed
My nikka! I’m saying!!!!!Dudes will cry bout black people not being seen as serious an then will defend this...
Sigh.
Because it's not pervasive, it's promoted. The actual truth has been revealedCam ain’t the face of all Black men and no one said that.
But we also ain’t gonna act like the attitude he has isn’t pervasive in the community.
The out of wedlock rate doesn’t only fall on the shoulders of our women.
Women are encountering men like Nick Cannon who readily admitted that sometimes he puts on an act to get sex and then switches up on women.
Everyone ain’t hoeing it up. Chicks fall for game and get caught up.
The question is why can’t guys just wear a damn condom if they know they don’t give a fukk about the girl? Why leave everything up to her? Especially if you playing games?
and we wonder why their community stays with the wealth.See-A few of y’all see it tho. This is the only reason why the women are in here giving our 2 cents.
The out of wedlock birth rate can never be fixed if we have a decent percentage of Black men who think this way.
Older men with this mentality were once younger men with this mentality. I keep saying it: Young Black men are not socialized by Black culture to want marriage and children born in one household. This is the mentality a lot of Black girls encounter. We talk about marriage and compare Black college girls to White college girls, but those White colleges girls are all being proposed to by White college guys. Where’s the large grouping of young Black men who are buying engagement rings and proposing before they are 30 themselves?
Look at this thread. Read through this shyt. Lol
Cam is not an anomaly in this community.
And again- he put the mentality on display for the WORLD.