Segragation is/was better for Blacks and Intergration was a trap

[marcuz]

what he is stating is......this radical change will come with consequences. As in, once we intergrate, it's not over, there will be a long hard battle. A LOT of people will be upset and a lot of people will still fight against it. You think after segregation things were easy? did you forget little girls had to be escorted to schools?

can you name one radical political change we've had that has gone smoothly and easy? I'll wait.

or maybe he's saying exactly what he said.

all that peace, 'lets hold hands with white folks' talk was about to get thrown in the bushes by MLK. he was about to focus on poverty and getting black folks an economic base.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

or maybe he's saying exactly what he said.

So you think we're worse off?

where would someone like Neil Degrassi be working exactly?

I don't want to drink out of some rusty water fountain, and did you see Gramblings football locker room?

I ain't moving back to Watts.

 

[marcuz]

So you think we're worse off?

where would someone like Neil Degrassi be working exactly?

I don't want to drink out of some rusty water fountain, and did you see Gramblings football locker room?

bruh, i'm saying our goals should have been different from the start. fighting for true separation from white folks. i would MUCH rather we have some fukked up plumbing, dirty locker room, etc. over blacks begging whites to sit in the corner of their lockeroom. they could have worked on the structure later, but at least it was their own.

as for tyson, i mean, that's my point! we could have men like that working solely for our team. he would be a great asset to our race. instead, our greatest go right over to the white infrastructure to help them build what they already have.

 

[marcuz]

I ain't moving back to Watts.

okay, thats your opinion. i disagree.

because when white folks come through and gentrify the fukk outta watts, clean it up a bit. put up some lofts, coffee shops, farmer markets, etc; then all of a sudden, you'd be cool with moving to watts.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

bruh, i'm saying our goals should have been different from the start. fighting for true separation from white folks. i would MUCH rather we have some fukked up plumbing, dirty locker room, etc. over blacks begging whites to sit in the corner of their lockeroom. theyAs f could have worked on the structure later, but at least it was their own.

as for tyson, i mean, that's my point! we could have men like that working solely for our team. he would be a great asset to our race. instead, our greatest go right over to the white infrastructure to help them build what they already have.

The problem is youre seeing it as race, when NASA is american, not white. America is not black or white, america is all the above.
As for locker rooms, we took over theirs.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

okay, thats your opinion. i disagree.

because when white folks come through and gentrify the fukk outta watts, clean it up a bit. put up some lofts, coffee shops, farmer markets, etc; then all of a sudden, you'd be cool with moving to watts.

well maybe if the blacks folks that are there put some lofts, coffee shops and farmers markets, I WOULD be cool with it. aint nobody stopping folks from doing that right now....

 

[marcuz]

The problem is youre seeing it as race, when NASA is american, not white. America is not black or white, america is all the above.
As for locker rooms, we took over theirs.

i am american, blacks are some of the first americans. the problem is when that isn't being acknowledged by the masses. it's the "race is a social construct" argument all over again. i mean, i agree, it is a social construct; but that doesn't stop blacks from being singled out and stereotyped.


and no, we just loitered their locker room, until they moved to another one. now we're in a lockeroom that we dont own, we're paying a high premium to use, and we have to follow their stupid rules. it's just like thinking blacks are the shyt because of sports entertainers. no, man, the fukking team owners are the ones that are running the show. i would have preferred a world where blacks had their segregated teams, but we were so awesome and entertaining, them cacs couldn't compete w/our talent on their best day.

 

[marcuz]

well maybe if the blacks folks that are there put some lofts, coffee shops and farmers markets, I WOULD be cool with it. aint nobody stopping folks from doing that right now....

you're right, there isn't. but due to integration, we don't feel any type of loyalty or reason to rebuild the community. we're american, lets just move anywhere, lets go the burbs! this is my whole point to begin with. social integration made nikkas say fukk nikkas.


im off crenshaw and rodeo. there use to be a haven burger, flower shop, earlz grill, and a laundry mat. do you know some cacs bought ALL of that shyt, about to demo it, and build their own shopping center in it's place.

we chasing them to the burbs, but they coming back into the ghetto to fix it. meanwhile, we got black folks saying i aint living in the ghetto

 

[Tommy Knocks]

i am american, blacks are some of the first americans. the problem is when that isn't being acknowledged by the masses. it's the "race is a social construct" argument all over again. i mean, i agree, it is a social construct; but that doesn't stop blacks from being singled out and stereotyped.


and no, we just loitered their locker room, until they moved to another one. now we're in a lockeroom that we dont own, we're paying a high premium to use, and we have to follow their stupid rules. it's just like thinking blacks are the shyt because of sports entertainers. no, man, the fukking team owners are the ones that are running the show. i would have preferred a world where blacks had their segregated teams, but we were so awesome and entertaining, them cacs couldn't compete w/our talent on their best day.

It didn't belong to the white players that were there prior either.

of course we'll be singled out and stereotyped by some folks, its what humans do best. just like you're making the assumption that NASA is white because a couple of very very intelligent men work there. The director of NASA is black by the way, that is who runs, and controls NASA right now, but in your mind, its still white, when clearly it is multiracial. They have indian engineers, asian scientists, and a black director, but you seem to think everything is racial, when this is america, a country which is multi-racial. IF you want a govt that is exclusively black, a system that exclusively black, you are more than welcome to pick out of the 58 african countries out there.

 

[marcuz]

It didn't belong to the white players that were there prior either.

of course we'll be singled out and stereotyped by some folks, its what humans do best. just like you're making the assumption that NASA is white because a couple of very very intelligent men work there. The director of NASA is black by the way, that is who runs, and controls NASA right now, but in your mind, its still white, when clearly it is multiracial. They have indian engineers, asian scientists, and a black director, but you seem to think everything is racial, when this is america, a country which is multi-racial. IF you want a govt that is exclusively black, a system that exclusively black, you are more than welcome to pick out of the 58 african countries out there.

just like i don't think obama has any real control of his own agenda. black faces in high places dont work on me, i know the game.

and like i said, i'm american. i'm not moving to an african country when my bloodlines been here longer than most of the cacs. i just maintain blacks should have went about the civilrights movement a completely different way.
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[Tommy Knocks]

you're right, there isn't. but due to integration, we don't feel any type of loyalty or reason to rebuild the community. we're american, lets just move anywhere, lets go the burbs! this is my whole point to begin with. social integration made nikkas say fukk nikkas.


im off crenshaw and rodeo. there use to be a haven burger, flower shop, earlz grill, and a laundry mat. do you know some cacs bought ALL of that shyt, about to demo it, and build their own shopping center in it's place.

we chasing them to the burbs, but they coming back into the ghetto to fix it. meanwhile, we got black folks saying i aint living in the ghetto

well i dont know about you but when I moved to Noho, there were a good sizable black community there, and even after they gentrified it....we didn't move. we could all still afford it. Even til today....Noho still has as shyt load of educated black folks. The only people that moved out were the messicans.

The jungles and that whole area is going through gentrification but guess who's buyiing all that shyt off MLK right next to dorsey? Ethiopians. Go check it out, I was just over there getting a haircut.

As for the flower shop, haven burger, who kept blacks from buying it? Did Magic not show an example by buying all that shyt over by the Baldwin hills crenshaw plaza? nikkas off Rodeo should have done the same thing, thats on yall. Im not chasing no one to the burbs, I moved to the burbs because it was clean, peaceful and nice. It could have had messicans, asians, blacks and I would have still moved there. "chasing them"

Humans go where they feel safe, black people allow gangs to make their areas unsafe. Thats something black folks need to sort out. My pops socal home is in Baldwin Hills, you already know thats predominately black. Some white folks are moving in, but they must be chasing us or something I dont know.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

just like i don't think obama has any real control of his own agenda. black faces in high places dont work on me, i know the game.

and like i said, i'm american. i'm not moving to an african country when my bloodlines been here longer than most of the cacs. i just maintain blacks should have went about the civilrights movement a completely different way.
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no race controls high places, cacs don't control high places either, you're giving their entire race far too much credit. 1% of folks run high places and they so happen to be white....with sprinkles of black. it reflects the country's population.

 

[marcuz]

well i dont know about you but when I moved to Noho, there were a good sizable black community there, and even after they gentrified it....we didn't move. we could all still afford it. Even til today....Noho still has as shyt load of educated black folks. The only people that moved out were the messicans.

The jungles and that whole area is going through gentrification but guess who's buyiing all that shyt off MLK right next to dorsey? Ethiopians. Go check it out, I was just over there getting a haircut.

As for the flower shop, haven burger, who kept blacks from buying it? Did Magic not show an example by buying all that shyt over by the Baldwin hills crenshaw plaza? nikkas off Rodeo should have done the same thing, thats on yall. Im not chasing no one to the burbs, I moved to the burbs because it was clean, peaceful and nice. It could have had messicans, asians, blacks and I would have still moved there. "chasing them"

Humans go where they feel safe, black people allow gangs to make their areas unsafe. Thats something black folks need to sort out. My pops socal home is in Baldwin Hills, you already know thats predominately black. Some white folks are moving in, but they must be chasing us or something I dont know.

i've already explained it several times. i'm not making excuses for nikkas, but they feel just like you. african americans would rather move than rebuild. that, plus realistically, we don't have the money or know how to network and build on that level.

 

[marcuz]

no race controls high places, cacs don't control high places either, you're giving their entire race far too much credit. 1% of folks run high places and they so happen to be white....with sprinkles of black. it reflects the country's population.

disagree. when we get to the faceless oligarchs of this nation, i'd be willing to bet they're overwhelmingly white and jewish.

 

[marcuz]

wait are you saying white supremacy doesn't exist