Segragation is/was better for Blacks and Intergration was a trap

[Dzali OG]

it was a stupid plan. i can only imagine when segregation ended, how much these dumb negros were cheesing. just happy as shyt to dine and socialize in the same atmosphere as cacs.

Isn't it disgusting to think about?

We got hoodwinked then by our black leaders...can't blame them I guess because you can't make deals with the devil...j/k

 

[WaveGang]

So you think blacks protesting did the trick eh? that was the only reason. :mjlolz:

Did you not watch occupy wall st? if they dont want to do shyt, they dont have too. at the end of the day, you're making it seem like we forced them, when you and I both know we can't FORCE the govt to do what it doesnt want to do, we don't affect whether they get voted in or not, so they're not losing any sleep over any protests. They could just send in the guards and disperse the crowds as theyve done plenty of times. Do you think Nixon would have signed the bill? fukk NO he wouldnt have. It would have been political suicide for a neocon. If it were against national interests, and racist whites were the majority, who would prompt the presidents impeachment, trust me, he would NOT have signed that bill. The rest of the nation had been calling for it, and JFK had been wanting equality for quite some time. If he were racist, he wouldn't have signed, I can tell you that much.

You thinking JFK is racist and still signed the bill cause some negroes protested is comedic.

btw. I thought you said segregation was better for blacks? why the hell were those c00ns calling for desegregation anyways?

Civil Rights was funded by jewish capitlists, same as the NAACP

Google Stan Levison and his contribution to MLKs movement

Intergration was a big pay day for the corporal elite, more money in their pockets. as you can see today, the black dollar dont stretch. We give it straight to them

its just common sense

 

[WaveGang]

Isn't it disgusting to think about?

We got hoodwinked then by our black leaders...can't blame them I guess because you can't make deals with the devil...j/k

Google Stan Levison and his contribution to MLKs movement

Even back then people were wary of the intergrationists, but they were able to sway public opinion as those who they worked for run the media

 

[J-Nice]

Even if I posted a 500 word answer you'd still object because you have a colonized mindset.

"Birds born in a cage see flying as a mental illness"

The whole point of people itt is that the society we live in today is less complicated than the time of segregation. So how is today more complicated for blacks than Garveys time?

And no Garvey didnt fail. To date he's ran arguable the largest black owned organisation in history.... smh

The UNIA is largely inactive and ineffective today. They aren't even relevant. And if you can't see how social, political, and economic dynamics in 2014 are different and much more complicated than in Garvey's time, then I don't know what to tell you. But as it stands, you nor anyone in this thread has a real agenda with specifics that can be carried out so yall just doing nothing but posturing at this point.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

http://www.scu.edu/ethics/architects-of-peace/Belafonte/essay.html

did you read that? He just wrote "we have fought hard and long for integration, as I believe we should have"

Does that sound like a fukking racist to you?

What he's saying is, we are helping them, as we should, but we are helping them, with great consequences. He knew half the country would be pissed AND STILL DID IT. and you want to discredit this great man?

yo you're on some bullshyt right now homie.

 

[J-Nice]

whats weird is I was actually gonna post this too, but I thought don't waste my time

greatest black psychologist of all time

Do you own the book? Have you followed the plans laid out in it? I doubt it.

 

[Blackout]

Intergration was a big pay day for the corporal elite, more money in their pockets. as you can see today, the black dollar dont stretch. We give it straight to them

its just common sense

We can still build up black businesses and such.

Work the usual American job while saving up to start black businesses that can benefit our relatives and fellow blacks. It ain't too late.

 

[WaveGang]

The UNIA is largely inactive and ineffective today. They aren't even relevant. And if you can't see how social, political, and economic dynamics in 2014 are different and much more complicated than in Garvey's time, then I don't know what to tell you. But as it stands, you nor anyone in this thread has a real agenda with specifics that can be carried out so yall just doing nothing but posturing at this point.

Black social, political and ECONOMICAL dynamics was less complicated in a time black men were being lynched and slavery (sharecroppin) was still in practice?





think about what you're saying

Look up the role J Edgar Hoove/ White social order played in UNIA/Garveys demise

 

[Matt504]

did you read that? He just wrote "we have fought hard and long for integration, as I believe we should have"

Does that sound like a fukking racist to you?

What he's saying is, we are helping them, as we should, but we are helping them, with great consequences. He knew half the country would be pissed AND STILL DID IT. and you want to discredit this great man?

yo you're on some bullshyt right now homie.

let's try this again.

"We have fought hard and long for integration, as I believe we should have, and I know that we will win. But I've come to believe we're integrating into a burning house."

how am I discrediting MLK? these are HIS WORDS!

he came to believe we were integrating into a BURNING HOUSE.

 

[WaveGang]

Do you own the book? Have you followed the plans laid out in it? I doubt it.

I dont own the book, but I've read it twice and do practice the plans laid out in it

I thought you was a positive dude, I sense much negative energy.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

Civil Rights was funded by jewish capitlists, same as the NAACP

Google Stan Levison and his contribution to MLKs movement

Intergration was a big pay day for the corporal elite, more money in their pockets. as you can see today, the black dollar dont stretch. We give it straight to them

its just common sense

Of course some whites were contributing to the MLK movement, you think we could have done it alone? You think if whites tried to protest in Nigeria they could do it without the help of some nigerians?

I'm sure some whites were in it for the greater good and some for money purposes. welcome to a capitalist country, where helping someone typically means they will also pay you. thats the problem, we as blacks need to learn this level of thinking. This is america, it is a shark tank. nikkas out here helping others for free. This aint the vatican.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

let's try this again.



how am I discrediting MLK? these are HIS WORDS!

he came to believe we were integrating into a BURNING HOUSE.

what he is stating is......this radical change will come with consequences. As in, once we intergrate, it's not over, there will be a long hard battle. A LOT of people will be upset and a lot of people will still fight against it. You think after segregation things were easy? did you forget little girls had to be escorted to schools?

can you name one radical political change we've had that has gone smoothly and easy? I'll wait.

 

[WaveGang]

Of course some whites were contributing to the MLK movement, you think we could have done it alone? You think if whites tried to protest in Nigeria they could do it without the help of some nigerians?

I'm sure some whites were in it for the greater good and some for money purposes. welcome to a capitalist country, where helping someone typically means they will also pay you. thats the problem, we as blacks need to learn this level of thinking. This is america, it is a shark tank. nikkas out here helping others for free. This aint the vatican.

So once again you cite the oppressive nature of those in power

So what gves you the idea that they set up intergration with the intent to remove that oppression put on use?

use your common sense to see that they wouldn't unless it benefited them

 

[Tommy Knocks]

So once again you cite the oppressive nature of those in power

So what gves you the idea that they set up intergration with the intent to remove that oppression put on use?

use your common sense to see that they wouldn't unless it benefited them

How did passing the bill benefit JFK, who later got assassinated in the south?

In case you havent figured out the trend...

Lincoln, and JFK both got killed......

 

[kermit da hustla]

what's funny? show me a single black-run community - city, state, national level - that has survived on its own. you can't. blacks cannot survive in this world whites have created without taking advantage of the resources made available to us through integration. you think i'm trying to suggest we're weak or inferior. not at all. but we are victims of slavery, of colonialism, of jim crow, and of post-colonialism. whites have fashioned a world in which we can live, even survive, but not one in which we can thrive until we build black america's KNOWLEDGE base. and the only way for us to build a KNOWLEDGE base, is for us to remain linked to white society and the institutions running it. separating from whites will effectively kill the black community in this country.