If they fukkin’ touch Carnivale and Rome….
Been doing a rewatch on that. Still has top five friendship on TV
Rumor: HBO Max may be folding into Discovery+
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Been doing a rewatch on that. Still has top five friendship on TV
They’re really combining HBO’s library with shyt like this
Breh, stop it.It's a lot of mid on HBO too though. Only new show I really enjoyed was Winning Time & Mare of Easttown. Euphoria does numbers but did anything top Stranger Things, Queens Gambit, Ozark, or Squid Game over there? I don't think their recently let go writers & producers instantly become the most sought after by other streaming sites.. Raised By Wolves, Station Eleven, Tokyo Vice, The Neversthey don't call it HBOMid for nothing
Succession, Barry, Righteous Gemstones, Hacks, Perry Mason, Peacemaker, and We Own This City are just as good if not better than anything Netflix puts out, and that’s just off the top of my head. Raised by Wolves, Station Eleven, and Tokyo Vice were all very well received too so your post in mad confusing.
EzekelRAGE
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Never watched vinyl, but that makes sense with the music thing. Maybe stuff like Wayans will be safe since I know they changed the music for the intro in later seasons so they wouldnt have to pay the licensing fee.Vinyl had all that classic music in every episode. They probably still have to pay the license fees for that music if the show is streaming anywhere. If you take it away you don't have to pay
Deadwood, Oz
Apparently taking HBO shows off streaming is for tax purposes too, shyt crazy
Edit: Wonder what this would mean for shows like Martin....Wayans Bros......Jamie Foxxx show
Vinyl had all that classic music in every episode. They probably still have to pay the license fees for that music if the show is streaming anywhere. If you take it away you don't have to pay
Me hopping back into the Plex servers
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voltronblack
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Why HBO Max Removed 6 Streaming-Exclusive Movies, with More to Come
HBO Max has removed at least a half-dozen Warner Bros. movies made specifically for HBO Max, IndieWire has confirmed — and more cuts are coming.
“Moonshot” starring Cole Sprouse and Zach Braff, “Superintelligence” starring Melissa McCarthy (and written by her husband Ben Falcone), the 2020 remake of “The Witches,” “An American Pickle” starring Seth Rogen, “Locked Down” starring Chiwetel Ejiofor and Anne Hathaway, and Sundance title “Charm City Kings” were the ones noticeably scrubbed from HBO Max over the past few months. Also permanently benched was LeBron James and Maverick Carter’s “House Party” reboot, which was slated to premiere July 28 on HBO Max but was never released.
A person with knowledge of the decision told IndieWire the six movies in question, as first discussed on a Reddit thread and reported by Variety, are part of a long list of films and series being pulled off HBO Max and Discovery+ as Warner Bros. Discovery executives prepare to turn two SVOD (subscriber video on-demand) services into one. The content being targeted for removal tends to be shows and movies that are not performing on the service but have an opportunity for a partial write off.
Content costs can be amortized — or assigned a cost that gets recognized by an entity across multiple years — over the program or film’s expected lifetime. If years on that timeline remain, a company can remove that asset from distribution and use its remaining cost balance to offset taxable income elsewhere. (There’s also a non-monetary perk of cleaning house, according to our source: The service may be more likely to not overwhelm subscribers with content choices.)
The accounting practice is not a new one, but it’s under the microscope at the moment — especially given the “Batgirl” bombshell. On Tuesday, Warner Bros. Discovery’s decision to straight-up cancel the release of the completed (save some reshoots), straight-to-streaming movie “Batgirl” shocked Hollywood. With options to release the Leslie Grace-starring DC Comics movie on Max as planned, or to invest tens of millions more and pivot to theatrical, David Zaslav chose neither. So you’ll never see that movie, which included the return of Michael Keaton as Batman, and Zaslav’s accountants probably didn’t see their families for weeks, figuring that one out.
The scrubbing of streaming movies from HBO Max is another example of differentiating strategies between new boss Zaslav and old boss Jason Kilar. Zaslav, who oversees the entirety of Warner Bros. Discovery, has the unenviable (and self-imposed, to some extent) task of identifying $3 billion in cost-savings synergies between his now-merged former company Discovery, Inc. and WarnerMedia. Kilar was shown the door immediately, as were some of his projects (remember CNN+?) and his streaming-centric approach.
Kilar was so enamored with the possibilities of streaming that he ordered all 2021 Warner Bros. theatrical releases to go day-and-date with HBO Max. The decision, which of course counted Covid and the recovering box office as a factor, was not a popular one among movie exhibitors and talent. At the end of Kilar’s run, HBO and HBO Max combined for nearly 77 million subscribers. Zaslav’s Discovery+ had 24 million subs at the time.
The person we spoke with for this story said streaming-exclusive Warner Bros. movies are not disproportionately targeted for removal from HBO Max. And certainly not all will be scrubbed: Take the “Father of the Bride” remake, for example. The Andy Garcia-Gloria Estefan version has done well on HBO Max, so stay on HBO Max it shall. Media analysts — and the just media — will get an explanation of the strategy during Thursday afternoon’s Warner Bros. Discovery Q2 earnings conference call, we’re told.
HBO Max has removed at least a half-dozen Warner Bros. movies made specifically for HBO Max, IndieWire has confirmed — and more cuts are coming.
“Moonshot” starring Cole Sprouse and Zach Braff, “Superintelligence” starring Melissa McCarthy (and written by her husband Ben Falcone), the 2020 remake of “The Witches,” “An American Pickle” starring Seth Rogen, “Locked Down” starring Chiwetel Ejiofor and Anne Hathaway, and Sundance title “Charm City Kings” were the ones noticeably scrubbed from HBO Max over the past few months. Also permanently benched was LeBron James and Maverick Carter’s “House Party” reboot, which was slated to premiere July 28 on HBO Max but was never released.
A person with knowledge of the decision told IndieWire the six movies in question, as first discussed on a Reddit thread and reported by Variety, are part of a long list of films and series being pulled off HBO Max and Discovery+ as Warner Bros. Discovery executives prepare to turn two SVOD (subscriber video on-demand) services into one. The content being targeted for removal tends to be shows and movies that are not performing on the service but have an opportunity for a partial write off.
Content costs can be amortized — or assigned a cost that gets recognized by an entity across multiple years — over the program or film’s expected lifetime. If years on that timeline remain, a company can remove that asset from distribution and use its remaining cost balance to offset taxable income elsewhere. (There’s also a non-monetary perk of cleaning house, according to our source: The service may be more likely to not overwhelm subscribers with content choices.)
The accounting practice is not a new one, but it’s under the microscope at the moment — especially given the “Batgirl” bombshell. On Tuesday, Warner Bros. Discovery’s decision to straight-up cancel the release of the completed (save some reshoots), straight-to-streaming movie “Batgirl” shocked Hollywood. With options to release the Leslie Grace-starring DC Comics movie on Max as planned, or to invest tens of millions more and pivot to theatrical, David Zaslav chose neither. So you’ll never see that movie, which included the return of Michael Keaton as Batman, and Zaslav’s accountants probably didn’t see their families for weeks, figuring that one out.
The scrubbing of streaming movies from HBO Max is another example of differentiating strategies between new boss Zaslav and old boss Jason Kilar. Zaslav, who oversees the entirety of Warner Bros. Discovery, has the unenviable (and self-imposed, to some extent) task of identifying $3 billion in cost-savings synergies between his now-merged former company Discovery, Inc. and WarnerMedia. Kilar was shown the door immediately, as were some of his projects (remember CNN+?) and his streaming-centric approach.
Kilar was so enamored with the possibilities of streaming that he ordered all 2021 Warner Bros. theatrical releases to go day-and-date with HBO Max. The decision, which of course counted Covid and the recovering box office as a factor, was not a popular one among movie exhibitors and talent. At the end of Kilar’s run, HBO and HBO Max combined for nearly 77 million subscribers. Zaslav’s Discovery+ had 24 million subs at the time.
The person we spoke with for this story said streaming-exclusive Warner Bros. movies are not disproportionately targeted for removal from HBO Max. And certainly not all will be scrubbed: Take the “Father of the Bride” remake, for example. The Andy Garcia-Gloria Estefan version has done well on HBO Max, so stay on HBO Max it shall. Media analysts — and the just media — will get an explanation of the strategy during Thursday afternoon’s Warner Bros. Discovery Q2 earnings conference call, we’re told.
EzekelRAGE
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If they removing shows for tax purposes, then they wont be available anywhere. Once you write off/down a show/movie for taxes, you can't profit at all from them again.
Like if Vinyl was only removed so they wouldnt have to pay the music fee, they could sell it to netflix or w/e and have them cover the fee + make money off of it. But if they removed vinyl for the music fees and to write it off, you wont be seeing it again.
EzekelRAGE
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I imagine any Warner streaming. Optimus Prime mentioned it may be because music fees. I also saw someone mention that it was a Paramount show, meaning HBO/Warner were paying fees to have it on Max. If that is true, it may show up on paramount+.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
We really about to see that farmhouse/pro gentrification HGTV trash on HBOmax 
PortCityProphet
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Of all those shows you named 2 HBO max showsThey’re really combining HBO’s library with shyt like this
Breh, stop it.
Succession, Barry, Righteous Gemstones, Hacks, Perry Mason, Peacemaker, and We Own This City are just as good if not better than anything Netflix puts out, and that’s just off the top of my head. Raised by Wolves, Station Eleven, and Tokyo Vice were all very well received too so your post in mad confusing.
That's part of the issue most folks can't tell you a hbomax show from a HBO show
humminbird
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we'll find out in 15 mins
PortCityProphet
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Now you're thinking like a fortune 500 ceo breh. Welcome to the club, the gold laced cheese is sitting on top of the ice cubes made from diamonds and enjoy this wine that was made from grapes stepped on by Louis the 13th big footed side chick
I know the difference but the post I responded to explicitly listed three HBO shows (Euphoria, Mare of Easttown, and Winning Time) when calling it mid. He lumped them all together initially so why would I focus only on HBO Max shows in my response?Of all those shows you named 2 HBO max shows
That's part of the issue most folks can't tell you a hbomax show from a HBO show
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EzekelRAGE
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CEO on earnings call "We hare beholden to no one platform, business, or relationship. We are open for business."
Everything for sale! lol
Everything for sale! lol