Rumor: HBO Max may be folding into Discovery+

[Json]

none of these are/looked particularly good. streaming services are taking the wrong lessons. stop making subpar shyt. people will watch whatever you throw on your streaming service, but don't be shocked when they start talking about how "mid" everything is. and you can't just fukkin course correct by producing more cheap dogshyt inscripted stuff, throw your hands up and say, "well, we tried movies." realize you are putting out subpar content to fill your feed. at least Netflix is slowly realizing that they don't have to give Ryan Reynolds and the Rock $40 mil each to fight in front of shytty green screens. yeah millions watch it, but that's b/c it's there. make good shyt and they'll watch that and itch for more. every netflix blockbuster costs $200 mil, and they pump out 66% done scripts.

overpaying celebs for middle of the road content isn’t the same as making content that just doesn’t work.

I‘ll never watch Shonda Rhimes shows but that’s not to say a large number of people are enjoying season 20 of Grey’s Anatomy when it is no way as popular as it once was.

These streamers got it in their heads they could just pay a bunch of celebrities for publicity to get subscriptions which is dumb. So the celebrities took advantage and just “write-off” a basic heist movie as a necessary 200 million dollar movie for their production company.

 

[Jello Biafra]

??? What year is he living in?

The other streamers don‘t want each other’s stuff. Thats why Netflix content got pulled .That’s the point of the platforms. You keep 100% of the profits from your production.

People watching the Flash on Netflix didn’t translate to them watching the CW in the same amount. You were pumping up Netflix profits with subscriptions on your material with only a licenses fee.

They don't care about the first run ratings for The Flash on The CW; they just cared about the revenue that came in from those Netflix and international deals for The Flash.
And it is becoming pretty obvious that Discovery doesn't give a damb about HBO Max as a streaming service.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

im not an exec but if i was i'd probably wanna separate the Discovery 'nature' stuff i.e. Shark Week content into a tab and then put the reality sh-t in another tab..

At most id call it "HBO Discovery" just so that the HBO name is still at the forefront

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Why are you framing it as only those two options? You have Michael freaking Keaton! Obi Wan was barely passable but Disney makes is money on new Star Wars junk to sell on top of subscriptions.

It’s not a simple as a Seinfeld just write it off.

For the Discovery CEO........those were the only options. They are big into cost cutting. Another thing is the CEO isnt a hollywood guy, just a numbers guy. He doesnt care about Keating or JK Simmons being in the movie. WB/DC isnt Disney. Disney is going all in on their streaming service and have other things to prop it up.

Warner Bros. Discovery reveals aggressive cost-cutting plan

CEO David Zaslav has underscored that the media giant’s ultimate goal is to spend more money on TV shows, while slashing costs of projects with inflated budgets.

nypost.com

‘Batgirl’ and ‘Scoob!: Holiday Haunt’ Scrapped at Warner Bros. Amid Cost-Savings Push

The DC feature was budgeted at around $80 million, with costs rising to nearly $90 million due to COVID-19 protocols.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

At HBO Max and Discovery the Real Drama is Waiting for the Next Cuts - TheStreet

The pursuit of cost savings is claiming some familiar shows and raising fears for others.

www.thestreet.com

You realize superheroes are merchandising behemoths? You realize how much money you are missing not making Keaton Batman toys to go with Batgirl and Batgirl toys?

Why does the merchandising of Keaton or batgirl matter when that isnt gonna save them 90M on taxes? Keaton was also in that movie for only 5 scenes.
There are also rumors that Keaton isnt in Aquaman 2 anymore and being replaced by Batfleck.That has more to do with Aquaman coming out before Flashpoint tho.

 

[Json]

There are too many streaming services for any of these companies to make the type of money they want. Everyone that is into watching tv is now spread out between the multiple companies.

Paramount plus is a good example of a company that doesn’t have enough content to have their own service. These execs do these things to impress shareholders and make it seem like this is going to save them money but in actuality my 600lb life is just as niche as a show like succession.

Discover+ taking over is just going to confuse the casual viewer and piss off the hbo max subscribers.

I don’t understand everything but I’m sure this isn’t the move

I mean your right and not completely wrong.

All these studios with backlogs of content took 80plus years to create. No one has enough content after one year. That’s what make Netflix a great idea as it was just a central repository for the best of the best.

So they are trying to green light sequels to 80s and 90s tv shows/movies in mass cause it’s easier than shepherding a 100% new idea.

Cable subscriptions weren’t working anymore either cause there were too many channels. That just seems to be the default move by conglomerates.

 

[Conz]

overpaying celebs for middle of the road content isn’t the same as making content that just doesn’t work.

I‘ll never watch Shonda Rhimes shows but that’s not to say a large number of people are enjoying season 20 of Grey’s Anatomy when it is no way as popular as it once was.

These streamers got it in their heads they could just pay a bunch of celebrities for publicity to get subscriptions which is dumb. So the celebrities took advantage and just “write-off” a basic heist movie as a necessary 200 million dollar movie for their production company.

right, most of the movies feel mailed in, and it's probably some of their biggest pay days. Netflix is just "here's $100 mil, Ryan Murphy, go make your least heralded content for us." they've announced they're done doing that... just in time to raise prices again and kick shared passwords off accounts. we gotta pay for their mistakes

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Paramount plus is a good example of a company that doesn’t have enough content to have their own service. These execs do these things to impress shareholders and make it seem like this is going to save them money but in actuality my 600lb life is just as niche as a show like succession.

Paramount really isnt a good example, because they do have enough content imo, especially with shyt like Star Trek.
Only place to watch all the old treks iirc.
Then the new shows like :
Star Trek Discovery
Star Trek Strange New Worlds
Picard
Another Discovery Spinoff.
2-3 animated Trek shows

I think they have a bunch of nicklodeon stuff. Then backlog/current stuff like 40 seasons of survivor, shyt like Blue Bloods, Criminal minds etc.

Then they making they own empire over there with Tyler Sheridan. He has like 5 shows in the works with:
Tulsa King with Sylvester Stallone - Sly is a old mobster starting a new empire.
Lioness with Zoe Saldana and Nicole Kidman - Spy show
Land Man with Billy Bob Thorton - Billy is a fixer for oil industry
Bass Reeves with David Oyelowo
1932 (between 1883 and Yellowstone) - More Yellowstone
Yellowstowne
Mayor of Kingstown

 

[Json]

For the Discovery CEO........those were the only options. They are big into cost cutting. Another thing is the CEO isnt a hollywood guy, just a numbers guy. He doesnt care about Keating or JK Simmons being in the movie. WB/DC isnt Disney. Disney is going all in on their streaming service and have other things to prop it up.

Warner Bros. Discovery reveals aggressive cost-cutting plan

CEO David Zaslav has underscored that the media giant’s ultimate goal is to spend more money on TV shows, while slashing costs of projects with inflated budgets.

nypost.com

‘Batgirl’ and ‘Scoob!: Holiday Haunt’ Scrapped at Warner Bros. Amid Cost-Savings Push

The DC feature was budgeted at around $80 million, with costs rising to nearly $90 million due to COVID-19 protocols.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

At HBO Max and Discovery the Real Drama is Waiting for the Next Cuts - TheStreet

The pursuit of cost savings is claiming some familiar shows and raising fears for others.

www.thestreet.com

Why does the merchandising of Keaton or batgirl matter when that isnt gonna save them 90M on taxes? Keaton was also in that movie for only 5 scenes.
There are also rumors that Keaton isnt in Aquaman 2 anymore and being replaced by Batfleck.That has more to do with Aquaman coming out before Flashpoint tho.

Disney cut cost too a decade ago when it bought Marvel. This Discovery dude isn’t some great thinker. Disney limited it’s output to just family films for maximum effect and that didn’t work either cause like the old saying “ you have to spend money to make money”

Report: Disney cutting jobs, yearly film output

Walt Disney Co. will substantially reduce its work force and slash its annual output of films from 18 to eight, according to a trade-publication report.

www.nbcnews.com

Merchandisng matters as much as anything. The infamous Lucas/Fox rule of not thinking of all revenue streams.

If this dude didn’t want to be in charge of a multifaceted conglomerate he shouldn’t have taken the job. I’m not going to act like he’s not an idiot for not understanding the facets of this job.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Disney cut cost too a decade ago when it bought Marvel. This Discovery dude isn’t some great thinker. Disney limited it’s output to just family films for maximum effect and that didn’t work either cause like the old saying “ you have to spend money to make money”

Report: Disney cutting jobs, yearly film output

Walt Disney Co. will substantially reduce its work force and slash its annual output of films from 18 to eight, according to a trade-publication report.

www.nbcnews.com

Merchandisng matters as much as anything. The infamous Lucas/Fox rule of not thinking of all revenue streams.

If this dude didn’t want to be in charge of a multifaceted conglomerate he shouldn’t have taken the job. I’m not going to act like he’s not an idiot for not understanding the facets of this job.

Dude wanted the job and is well thought of as an executive. You may not like what he is doing but he is the big dog of this company and only answers to the Board. If the bottom line is good he will be rewarded. Plus this is really him reconfiguring something failing to his new plan, the Board is going to let him see that thru to completion then judge despite any short term losses.

 

[Dwight Howard]

Dude wanted the job and is well thought of as an executive. You may not like what he is doing but he is the big dog of this company and only answers to the Board. If the bottom line is good he will be rewarded. Plus this is really him reconfiguring something failing to his new plan, the Board is going to let him see that thru to completion then judge despite any short term losses.

Well the board ain't shyt and likely full of dinosaurs because anyone can see how stupid this is. Short term profit for long-term damage to brand isn't ever the move. You don't dilute your strongest brand to prop up some bullshyt. Imagine if dairy queen merged with Mortons or some shyt. Like cmon man.

 

[Sghost597]

This wack. HBO is a bigger brand than Discovery. Discovery should merge onto HBO Max


This is all about stroking EGO and Discovery show they are in charge... Stupid

 

[prophecypro]

Zaslav is gonna destory Warners and the idiot John Campea is gonna keep telling us its the right move

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Well the board ain't shyt and likely full of dinosaurs because anyone can see how stupid this is. Short term profit for long-term damage to brand isn't ever the move. You don't dilute your strongest brand to prop up some bullshyt. Imagine if dairy queen merged with Mortons or some shyt. Like cmon man.

HBO is a strong brand and they are keeping it as is. HBOMax really isn't that strong and is going to fall by the wayside. HBO by itself is so strong people will go to Discovery + to view that content.
They are planning for the long term, they just shelved a $90 million movie. That's a short term loss in order to build a DC brand that they deem will be better and more streamlined which is very necessary for that brand. They are currently all over the place.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

AT&T is retarded. They paid $85 billion for TimeWarner. Everyone told them they overpaid at the time but, of course, some dumb MBAs there thought they knew better. Now after CNN had a great couple of years due to ratings from Trump and after HBO grew to seriously threaten Netflix, they decide to sell to Discovery. For less than they paid. Not even a decade after buying it And Discovery plans to rip out alot of what people love about HBO

thats because they also had the DirectTV mess