Rodman in ‘96: “The league is so watered-down, we can beat pretty much anyone with our eyes closed”

[NYC Rebel]

OK

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You really gonna still photo your way to say zone was always played in the NBA.

Even MJ doesnt agree with you.

Michael Jordan: “If teams were able to play zone defenses, I never would've had the career I had.”

 

[CHICAGO]

You really gonna still photo your way to say zone was always played in the NBA.

Even MJ doesnt agree with you.

Michael Jordan: “If teams were able to play zone defenses, I never would've had the career I had.”

THE JORDAN RULES WAS
A ZONE DEFENSE.







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[Jplaya2023]

Teams were literally zoning Mike in 87 and the announcers are saying its worth doing it several times a game hoping it wojt get called.

Its what the pistons, knicks, etc.. literally did

 

[threattonature]

Why did Shaq and Kobe get swept by the Jazz in 98 then? It should have been easy work for them.

Cause the league was in a weird ass place by the 2nd threepeat. You had a bunch of really young immature teams and older veteran teams that were getting by off know how. There was like a 5-6 year stretch of drafts from 86-91 where hardly any of the top talents turned out to be superstars. So the league was missing that middle ground of superstars hitting their prime during those years to knock off the older veteran teams. The Lakers had talent but were immature as hell and lacked leadership as most of the other Lakers were afraid to challenge Shaq.

It's also why I always shoot down the argument that you could put any star SG in Kobe's place and the Lakers would still win just as much if not more. To me it took a special kind of arrogant a$$hole to be willing to challenge Shaq while also putting up his own numbers beside him. Shaq needed someone like Kobe and Phil to be on his ass and to carry the team when he was being lazy.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Teams were literally zoning Mike in 87 and the announcers are saying its worth doing it several times a game hoping it wojt get called.

Its what the pistons, knicks, etc.. literally did

Isolated examples. If the zone was a regularity, Michael Jordan wouldn’t have made the statement about facing zone and the impact it would have had on his career.

 

[HandyWithTheSteel]

 

[mastermind]

THE JORDAN RULES WAS
A ZONE DEFENSE.







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No it wasn’t and those still images ain’t the same as a zone defense.

Zone defenses often prevent players from getting the ball because they can be doubled without it.

In the LeBron GIF, there are four guys within a few steps of LeBron and a soft double when LeBron received the ball, with his back to goal. Jordan is facing and coming to the rim when the double engages. It’s not close
To the same.

 

[Roger king]

This is pure facts by rodman, jordan stans in shambles

 

[Remote]

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2001/04/01/if-zone-defenses-come-in-stars-may-go-out/

The subject was defense in the NBA, and Michael Jordan was speaking, although more about offense, especially his. We know few defenses could do anything about that.

But there was one that might be bothersome, the zone defense. It was the topic du jour at last month’s All-Star Game, and Jordan was making an impassioned plea before the competition committee that had gathered to consider rules changes to enliven the NBA game. Jordan spoke passionately. If teams were able to play zone defenses, he said, he never would have had the career he did.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Niqqas really tried to still photo and youtube example their way into something MJ himself said he didnt face.

 

[K-Apps]

Just randomly checked, the Vancouver Grizzlies won 15 games and Toronto Raptors won 21 games in 95-96 in their 1st years as expansion franchises . Expansion definitely diluted the quality of teams and play back then. Definitely will be interesting when they do it again in the future (with much better and fairer expansion rules)

 

[KidJSoul]

Teams were literally zoning Mike in 87 and the announcers are saying its worth doing it several times a game hoping it wojt get called.

Its what the pistons, knicks, etc.. literally did

This video doesn't help your point...

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Just randomly checked, the Vancouver Grizzlies won 15 games and Toronto Raptors won 21 games in 95-96 in their 1st years as expansion franchises . Expansion definitely diluted the quality of teams and play back then. Definitely will be interesting when they do it again in the future (with much better and fairer expansion rules)

6 new teams in 8 years while it felt like a lot of draft picks went bust more than usual. Miami sucked from the start (15, 18, 24, 38, 36, 42, & 32 wins in their first 7 years) until they got Alonzo Mourning from charlotte who sucked again too after that trade. Orlando was awful their first 3 seasons before getting Shaq. Minnesota won 22, 29, 15, 19, 20, 21, & 26 games over their first 8 seasons . The grizzlies won 15, 14, 19, 8 (out of 50 games), 22, 23, (first year in Memphis) 23, & 28 games over their first 8 years . They basically just threw these teams out there and said “here you go” . If they go to 32 teams and if Seattle ever gets the Sonics back, the league absolutely has to look at what they did wrong with their 1988-95 expansions.

 

[Stick Up Kid]

NBA players, past, current, and recently retired/journalists/talking heads are the absolute worse Ambassadors of the NBA..

 

[NYC Rebel]

6 new teams in 8 years while it felt like a lot of draft picks went bust more than usual. Miami sucked from the start (15, 18, 24, 38, 36, 42, & 32 wins in their first 7 years) until they got Alonzo Mourning from charlotte who sucked again too after that trade. Orlando was awful their first 3 seasons before getting Shaq. Minnesota won 22, 29, 15, 19, 20, 21, & 26 games over their first 8 seasons . The grizzlies won 15, 14, 19, 8 (out of 50 games), 22, 23, (first year in Memphis) 23, & 28 games over their first 8 years . They basically just threw these teams out there and said “here you go” . If they go to 32 teams and if Seattle ever gets the Sonics back, the league absolutely has to look at what they did wrong with their 1988-95 expansions.

It really fukked up the NBA ecosystem. Key players to a team involuntarily being drafted to fill the new rosters. No league in history outside of a merger saw as many teams made in such a short span.

I always felt Stern's failure was building around the popularity Jordan brought to the NBA. I don't give him the brilliant mind tag some give him. First off, he was playing catch up to the Nike because they were the ones taking Jordan and his brand to countries all over Europe before the NBA decided to become global. He treated the league like a cheap suit dumping all of these new teams into the league. Interest in the regular season started its decline during that time.