That's the thing, if you're attempting to put them into the backpacker crowd, there goes your "real heads" claim. No one goes harder at representing "real heads" than backpackers who scoff at anything that doesn't fit what they perceive as "real, authentic Hip Hop".
Reasons Why Outkast Will Never Be Seen As GOAT Contenders By Most Real Heads
- Thread starter Wacky D
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That's the thing, if you're attempting to put them into the backpacker crowd, there goes your "real heads" claim. No one goes harder at representing "real heads" than backpackers who scoff at anything that doesn't fit what they perceive as "real, authentic Hip Hop".
atlanta been on since like '90-91, outkast aint drop til '93.
and you yourself said that there were big groups coming out of atlanta before outkast.
is it oochie wally or is it one mic???local impact was NEVER one of my talking points. youre lying on my name at this point. I don't play that chit.
im not attempting to do chit.
that's how people view them IRL.
and I see that you don't know what I mean by "real heads".
Nah... I sometimes joke when people say goofy shyt and you just happen to be the one who does, very often
Kast made it into the top tier rankings of your own power rankings for two of the years you made the list (1998 and 2003). Yet you want to claim, they were mid careers.
How was 1998 the weakest year for groups? Kast dropped in September of 1998. You have them at like 3-4 of a year they really only showed up in the last of the 3rd quarter for. Same goes for 2003. You're ruining your own argument.
And yes, you're moving goal posts.
1.) you don't get it.
2.) what??
3.) what you mean who brought up hybrid rap?? so basically ive been talking over your head all this time.
4.) lol @ Kendrick. we already know about their influence on industry plants & internet rappers a whopping 15-20 years later. everybody knows that. most people just don't acknowledge it. and its like that for a reason bub. the most you can come up with is lil wayne, who didn't begin to show any glimpse of kast influence until YEARS later when he started throwing any ole thing on wax.
AGAIN '98 was a weak year.
and groups were on their death-bed by 2003 bro.
aint nobody on those lists poppin up in any all-time goat discussions unless they ranked high in better years.
I said UP TO THAT POINT, '98 was the weakest year for groups. I see the reason why I you think I move goal-posts, is because some of yall don't comprehend unless I spell everything out word-for-word.
UP TO THAT POINT, meaning it was a weakest year for groups in comparison to all the years that came before it.
I fully understand what you mean by "real heads". You're trying to disguise your own personal grievances with Kast fans as the opinion of "real Hip Hop heads". Got cha.
Breh, if people in real life viewed Kast the way you do, there would be no need to create threads about them. What is the point in stressing something that you claim isn't true IRL to a bunch of people you claim created the narrative in the first place. What's your end game?
Nah... I sometimes joke when people say goofy shyt and you just happen to be the one who does, very often
even if you think that, theres tons of goofy chit being said in here, that you refuse to address.
or at best you address it with kid hands.
you BEEN obsessed with me, like you got a crush or something
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If '98 was so weak, why even rank groups for that year? And the mid career group still made it near the top of the list. Again, you stay moving goal posts.
Same goes for 2003, if groups were on their death bed, you could've easily just left the category off and stated why. It was in fact your list, but you listed groups anyway and then proceeded to put the mid carders near the top even AFTER they:
1) Dropped near the end of the 3ed quarter
2) Dropped an album that you've pretty much dismissed
And we can't act like groups were on their death bed that year considering who all dropped and made an impact.
he "clarified" the run dmc chit because YOU WERE WRONG.
lol @ the bolded. that chit describes YOU.
I have posters all over the country agreeing with me as well. so what you saying?
im not even the 1st person to make this thread. I just did it the biggest. so f*ck outta here tryng to make it seem like its just me. multiple people done swung you around in this thread. but here you go again, trying to insinuate that its just me, because you need a crutch to lean on. MAN THATS CORNY.
cuz that's what I do.
im not saying its a bad year for groups that I wouldn't bother with at all.
im just saying that it doesn't hold that much weight in comparison to like 20 other years. theres levels to this chit. that's what yall don't understand.
and 2003 was even weaker. but its not like say 2008, a year that I didn't bother to do any ranking threads on, concerning mainstream rap at least.
fun side-argument tho. I would dap you, if you weren't blatantly lying on me a few posts earlier.
illmatic definitely had more influence on the mic than 36 chambers. I mean come on, wutang themselves changed up how they rapped after illmatic.
what im saying is, illmatic was the chit with or without the 5 mics. wasn't nobody really dwelling on the 5 mic chit that heavy but rap nerds.
no you don't.
you didn't get the reference at all.
I can tell you follow football casually at best.