Really dough, if you believe Outkast is the greatest group of all time.....

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

judging by your immaturity and inability to debate said topic, i dont think you were even listening to rap when i was an active member of sohh. you must have me confused with a different runny-ray. this wasnt my username there.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

judging by your immaturity and inability to debate said topic, i dont think you were even listening to rap when i was an active member of sohh. you must have me confused with a different runny-ray. this wasnt my username there.

ohhh so you tryna run away from your persona you created on sohh...

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I still want my money bank for Stankonia. I couldn't fukk with that disc at all, I had the face on during the whole playback.

at all?

so fresh so clean, mrs jackson, bob, gangsta shiit, xplosion, red velvet, spaghetti junction, etc etc

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

i barely posted there. i think you have me confused with someone else.

 

[Kaydigi]

at all?

so fresh so clean, mrs jackson, bob, gangsta shiit, xplosion, red velvet, spaghetti junction, etc etc

Nope, can't f*ck with that sh*t. Art of Storytelling part 2>>>>>>>> Stankonia.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Nope, can't f*ck with that sh*t. Art of Storytelling part 2>>>>>>>> Stankonia.

if you a kast fan - you lying if you said you weren't feeling at least one of those songs.....

 

[Kaydigi]

if you a kast fan - you lying if you said you weren't feeling at least one of those songs.....

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

 

[Roberto Dinero]

thats not a theory. thats an excuse. while we're at it, lets talk about how loon was so far ahead of his time as well.

the artists that i mentioned by name are from atlanta. and regardless, l.a. reid was at the center of that scene and then along came outkast who were HIS rap priority.

its not about whether or not i agree. im not into soley pushing my personal opinions. theres a number of goat contenders that i really dont care too much for. but when they get brought up in all-time elite arguments, i have to respect it. outkast isnt on that level man. theyre just not. and judging by the arguments that you guys are putting up, i get the feeling that deep down, you people dont think that they belong in the class that you put them in either.

those albums really werent even that important when they came out, so how could they possibly be untouchable? theyre not even undisputed classics. the only one you could make a case for is their debut. the other 2 are basically personal classics to their fans. i undertstand that outkast is a huge deal on the internet. i truly do. but its just not going down like that home-slice.

Here we go again with the Wacky D shameless trolling. When u don't feel an artist u say everything u can to discredit that act, its disgusting.

1. Its not an excuse. Even myself, the 1st time I heard Kast I didn't really get their music but once I did I was like this is really good sh!t. Some people didn't or don't get it. If u don't get it u don't. That seems to be the case for u, its not an excuse.

2. Ur not solely into pushing ur personal opinions? GET THE F*CK OUTTA HERE! That's all you do! Talk sh!t and then act like ur spitting the f*cking Gospel out here.

3. Those albums weren't important? Are you serious? Get the f*ck outta here with that sh!t. Musically and lyrically they are untouchable. Ask anyone who listens to rap music and they will tell u Kast's 1st 3 albums, hard to top. U talk like only people on the net love Outkast. I started bumping them even before the net was really poppin and from the concensus with most hip hop fans I know they will tell u those albums are classics.

So, ur once again giving me reasons to not take anything you say seriously. Trolling ain't easy. Seek help.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

1. i liked outkast from the moment i heard player's ball. theres nothing not to get about them. thats an excuse. and an excuse that could be made for every other artist that has ever released a record. youre just embellishing their legacy and im pointing it out. thats all. maybe youre a little too young to remember certain things. no need to get mad about it. lets be civil.

2. you just started posting here buddy. you dont know me. keep the insults to yourself. im a grown man. i dont have time to go back an forth with little white kids whos egos get hurt when corrected over a minor statement. you can call me wack all you want, but the only person thats wack is you. now either talk rap or go somewhere else.

3. i didnt say that they werent important. i said that they werent ALL THAT important. there were plenty of albums being released that were a much bigger deal. youre showing your age. and yes, the internet was indeed "poppin" back in those days, and outkast wasnt that big of a deal on the internet either. may i ask how old you are? you sound very green. i already know that theres now a huge age gap on this board. especially from that thread where "licensed to ill" was being disrespected. so im not mad, but i would just like to know. please be honest. i respect the fact that you are at least trying to make a respectable case for outkast. but leave the insults at the door.

4. the only true consensus classic that they have is spcm. and even that album isnt held in the same regard as the elite classics by most of the true goat groups. are you really going to sit here and act as if outkast has an album in the same vein as raising hell, run dmc, paid in full, follow the leader it takes a nation of millions, fear of a black planet, straight outta compton, e.99 eternal, creepin on ah come up, 36 chambers, criminal minded, by any means neccessary, licensed to ill, low end theory, the infamous, etc etc?

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

and its funny how this guy is accusing me of relying to heavily on my personal opinions when hes the one in here pushing favorites. go back to all hip-hop.com & sohh.com boards.

There's always a debate between Outkast, UGK, and 8ball & MGJ. Depends on your taste in Southern music though.

the fact that theyre even debated against such groups, completely eliminates the idea of them being compared to the upper-echelon.

 

[Roberto Dinero]

I used to post on SOHH as well so I know you Wacky

I'm not insulting you. It just seems u like to discredit rappers u don't like. I see that pattern quite often. And there was nothing to get with Southern Playalistik but ATLiens and Aquemeni were more complex albums that I didn't understand at 1st as a young cat but then one day I was like "Hot damn! this sh!t is genius!

And I'm probably ur age or older. I'm in my late 20s my friend.

But if u say u do like Outkast and listen to them, u really don't consider ATLiens and Aquemeni to be classics? Let's be serious here.

Also, I'm saying Outkast is one of the best DUOS to ever do it. A lot of the acts u guys are mentioning are not duos. They are crews with 3 members or more, its not the same.

Its my personal opinion that they are ONE of the best. Not the best(cause there is no such thing) just ONE of the best.

But yes, I do consider them to be in the same category as any of the other acts u mentioned.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

.....

its pathetic you spent all those years building up the wacky d persona, defending all that illogical make-believe bullshyt that everyone laughed at and ridiculed.... only to totally disown it; now you're trying to create a new identity because you're ashamed of the one you built on sohh. 'grafted ass nikka, i see through your glass shield'.

ol skip town to make a new identity ass nikka.

 

[RTF]

If you don't like 'Kast, I can't respect your musical opinion.


If a Kast album aint in your top 50 HipHop albums. I don't respect your musical opinion.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

its pathetic you spent all those years building up the wacky d persona, defending all that illogical make-believe bullshyt that everyone laughed at and ridiculed.... only to totally disown it; now you're trying to create a new identity because you're ashamed of the one you built on sohh. 'grafted ass nikka, i see through your glass shield'.

ol skip town to make a new identity ass nikka.

wait, a minute ago, you were getting me mixed up with a different runny-ray. now youre claiming that im some guy named wacky d? make up your mind son.

my sohh tag was kingfromqueens. since you seem to be so concerned with me for some strange reason, you might as well look it up. you can look up my old AHH tag as well by the same name. the main site that i post on will remain undisclosed because i still post there and im not feeling how you guys are carrying on in here.

I used to post on SOHH as well so I know you Wacky

I'm not insulting you. It just seems u like to discredit rappers u don't like. I see that pattern quite often. And there was nothing to get with Southern Playalistik but ATLiens and Aquemeni were more complex albums that I didn't understand at 1st as a young cat but then one day I was like "Hot damn! this sh!t is genius!

And I'm probably ur age or older. I'm in my late 20s my friend.

But if u say u do like Outkast and listen to them, u really don't consider ATLiens and Aquemeni to be classics? Let's be serious here.

Also, I'm saying Outkast is one of the best DUOS to ever do it. A lot of the acts u guys are mentioning are not duos. They are crews with 3 members or more, its not the same.

Its my personal opinion that they are ONE of the best. Not the best(cause there is no such thing) just ONE of the best.

But yes, I do consider them to be in the same category as any of the other acts u mentioned.

well it seems like youre arguing a moot point. i think that theyre in the upper-echelon of rap duos myself. may i suggest that you read the thread title before you post for now on? this thread is about GROUPS. not duos buddy. that may be where we differ. you may want to end it there. but let me respond to the rest of your post for the record.

- i havnt discredited anybody. im just speaking from facts.

- youre closer in age to my kids than you are to me. and age doesnt matter. my kids probably know more about hip-hop than you.

- theres no personal bias here. case in point, im not a fan of boogie down productions or a tribe called quest but i never bat an eye when theyre brought up amongst the goat groups. why? because they have the credentials. outkast doesnt. and deep down, i think you know this. look homeboy, if outkast is your favorite group fine. but lets be objective here. some of my favorite groups arent goat status and therefore, i never mention them in conversations like this. some of them have better stats than outkast though. food for thought.

-those albums may have went over YOUR head, fine. but thats just you. you seem to like speaking from personal experiences, only to turn around and claim that others are doing that when we're really not. ITS YOU. they werent doing anything mind-blowing or unheard of at the time. sure you could say that their combination of different elements was unique but theres not anything that they were doing in particular that was brand new, nor was it before their time or something that went over most people's heads.