Jay-Z Black Album and Blueprint 3
blueprint 3 definitely.
Jay-Z Black Album and Blueprint 3
1) It's speculation because you can't prove whether those people who line dance and shuffle to "The Way You Move" own/listen to/are fans of Speakerboxxx/Love Below or not.
2) Are you him though? Dude said Black culture which includes Hip Hop.
3) won't even bother
4) You still went out of your way to address it though
5) Eminem alluded to 2001 helping his fanbase though. In the same manner that TRL helped him with a teeny-bopper fanbase, 2001 introduced Eminem to a new audience
6) According to Kanye, it's why he popped.
7) LOL @ regionally significant. It bringing the West back is culturally significant.
man it was all about eminem. the media may have threw hip-hop under the bus in the process but it was all about eminem and he reaped all the benefits as it took his career to the next level(not some dre 2001 collabos, like you claim) and culminated with him making out with elton john on the grammys stage. i kinda think half of that stuff was done to make eminem bigger on the low.
hip-hop wasnt paying attention to these eminem controversies. sorry to break it to you, but we didnt care.
1.) its not speculation when i know tons & tons of these people personally. and its so obvious, that i dont even have to know them. anybody with a functioning brain & isnt naive can tell an apple from an orange.
2.) well thats what this thread is about. and if you want to know what he meant, just ask him. let him clear it up.
3.) i see you started numbering the rest anyway. EMBRACE ME.
4.) you darn right. i love to argue.
5.) or maybe eminem is just proppin up his mentor. lets be reality, what new fans were introduced to eminem via dre 2001?
6.) thats his opinion. im out here tho.
7.) how did 2001 bring the west back? there was no real resurgance. it brought dr dre back. nobody else from the west coast got a career boost except for xzibit who had signed to dre.
big willie style
When they say hip hop culture, they mean trends, style and music. The MMLP did not change the way people rapped, it merely was the first time a white dude did this rap shyt as well as anyone else. But his impact on pop culture did not necessarily mean he impacted hip hop culture in the sense of the places where it is made and lived. It was arguably more important for him and the mainstream, than it was for hip hop as a whole. However, I'd disagree. There are a lot of people listening to rap because of Eminem so to discount the MMLP is unfair.I agree with the College Dropout statement. While I agree, MMLP is the only Eminem album that had a cultural impact. It was one of those albums that had content that rubbed people the wrong way to the point that he had interest groups protesting and lobbying against his music. No it wasn't the first Hip Hop album to do that, but it had been a minute since a Hip Hop album did that to that magnitude.
Albums like this are obviously what should be discussed here. Not even on the Internet is that album really discussed. Most times, people bring it up in reference to Nas writing songs on it or the once every blue moon nostalgia thread/post. MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice (and their respective albums) are other examples. Except they don't even get the nostalgia mention. Rick Ross gave Hammer the most relevance he's had in years.
The message board that refuses to give Eminem even the slightest bit of props is in no position to be judging "cultural impact."
MMLP and 8 Mile have had probably the biggest cultural impact of the past 10, 15 years.
Threads like these are just an excuse for trolls to shyt on popular albums they don't like, and try to pretend they don't matter.
Yawn.
Even still, the Pop BS that he dissed were the poster children for White America (not just high society). These were the Mickey Mouse club kids who were wholesome and innocent and at the time bigger than Eminem.
Eminem has had an impact on Hip Hop for better or for worse. To say that he's had zero impact is laughable. He may have had more impact on white culture, but that's not to say that he hasn't impacted Hip Hop, because his peers say otherwise.
All that needs to be said.
Hip Hop was definitely paying attention to Eminem and the controversy surrounding him. The controversy came after MMLP hit shelves. He'd already sold nearly 2 million copies in one week at that point. 2001 definitely helped Em because a lot of people weren't sold on Em initially. His appearances on Dre's album helped establish him. Him appearing on songs with Dre made Dre's co-sign official and not just him co-signing an "of the moment" act.
at "we". So now you're speaking for multiple people.
what is eminem's impact on hip-hop? being a novelty act? moving alot of units? being the 1st rapper that alot of people knew? you just described lil bow wow.
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