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there is no significance as far as anything im saying to there being no official language in the constitution, the fact that you keep bringing that up just exposes the hole in the argument that everybody already speaks english so whats the big deal

in essence you are implying that not everybody has to speak english, and therefore english need not be a unifying language for all americans, a notion i take issue with


Why is there no official language declared in the Constitution? I mean, if you want a common culture let's at least find a common understanding of the supreme law that authorizes this country to exist. Tell me why princess.
 

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Why is there no official language declared in the Constitution? I mean, if you want a common culture let's at least find a common understanding of the supreme law that authorizes this country to exist. Tell me why princess.

i think i already answered your question 2 times already

the funny part is that all you are doing is exposing yourself, when i said english is important for social cohesion the retort was that everybody already speaks english

but the only implication of you pursuing this line of argument is to suggest that english doesn't have to be the common language, which kinda cancels out the retort to my argument cuz you are implying that language is not important

so maybe yall need to huddle with each other and get your argument straight, is the argument that everybody already speaks English or is it that English is not necessary and america should be like canada that recognizes more than one language?
 

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fukk all this culture discussion. it's a matter of practicality. english is the dominant language here and if you come here to live, as in put down roots, you should try to learn the language. you dont have to be fluent, you just have to try. i feel just as strongly about this as i do about immigrant families preserving their native language within their homes.

btw i'm a certified teacher of english as a foreign language and offer skype lessons, coli discount for brehs with foreign relatives :troll:

free markets :troll:
 

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that being said, americans should also strive to be bilingual, if we are a country of immigrants we should do more to understand the modern immigrants' situation and make it easier for them.

if nothing else, a bunch of americans speaking spanish will shame latin american immigrants into learning english
 

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i think i already answered your question 2 times already

the funny part is that all you are doing is exposing yourself, when i said english is important for social cohesion the retort was that everybody already speaks english

but the only implication of you pursuing this line of argument is to suggest that english doesn't have to be the common language, which kinda cancels out the retort to my argument cuz you are implying that language is not important

so maybe yall need to huddle with each other and get your argument straight, is the argument that everybody already speaks English or is it that English is not necessary and america should be like canada that recognizes more than one language?


Damn, you really don't know why do you? You don't understand a basic fundamental aspect of this country yet are here lecturing others on how to be good Americans.


Tell people they should join a common culture and speak a common language for social cohesion while not understanding elementary legal and historical concepts in reference to the social contract which defines a cohesive society in the first place...

















... Brehs
 

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but you already said that tho, and im asking you the same question again

the situation you are describing comes from the traditional model of american immigration where immigrants are pretty much forced to learn english

multiculturalism says something different, it says the government shouldnt push english, it should respect people's languages and cultures and encourage immigrants to keep their culture

so the question you havent answered is why do you expect the same result in the future when you are advocating or siding with a philosophy that is different then the traditional integrationist policies

cultural differences are not meaningless, that is why canada was brought into this discussion
I think the framework we're working in to define multiculturalism exists in your mind and means different things for different people. What it means in a broad sense, is what i just said it meant in my last post. You're trying to fit that definition into your own definition or trying to lump everyone who believes in multiculturalism into a defined framework that you've decided upon when in reality it has a very loose interpretation that i believe most people describe the way i described it, not you.

English will be taught in schools until America is recolonized by invaders. :heh:
 

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Damn, you really don't know why do you? You don't understand a basic fundamental aspect of this country yet are here lecturing others on how to be good Americans.


Tell people they should join a common culture and speak a common language for social cohesion while not understanding elementary legal and historical concepts in reference to the social contract which defines a cohesive society in the first place...

















... Brehs

if there is something you feel im ignorant of feel free to enlighten me, cuz honestly i have no idea what the hell you are talking about

why dont you tell me why there is no official language in the constitution
 

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lets be real about what's going on, most people in this thread saw a bunch of white racists complaining and you assumed right away that you had to be against it and enjoy the white tears, but the problem is you havent really thought it all the way through

lets be real, none of yall have really thought about the ramifications of or the motivations behind @Type Username Here and @Brown_Pride talking about there is no english language requirement in the constitution, the implication is that the us should stop discouraging non english speakers and actually encourage non english speaking, in other words they think latino and other immigrants should be treated different than italian or polish immigrants that came in the 20th century

yall are focusing on white tears but none of yall have thought about the implications of having a canadian type of structure that encourages immigrants to keep their culture and none of yall have thought about the implications for the social cohesion of the country by encouraging multiple languages and multiple cultures

and a lot of black peolpe havent thought about going for a job interview and being told you have to speak a foreign language, (apparently this is considered progress by some)

there is no evidence anywhere on the planet that encouraging multiple languages and multiple cultures helps a country advance, its only in the us where you have massive integrationist forces that dilute people's original culture and language where diversity sort of works, anywhere else from canada, belgium, nigeria or india its been a failure

and i repeat, due to the fact that we are non homogenous society its doubly important to encourage a common language and common culture
While the a lot of white people disliking that commercial are coming from a racist point of view with no rational thinking behind their statements, I've always thought that English should be the official language of the country. I wrote an essay about it in my american politics class. You really need the members of a nation to have a common language or something to identify themselves as being part of said nation. Having nations inside a nation can be dangerous as it will lead to secession and civil wars at the first sign of any significant destabilization. History has proven that.

that being said, americans should also strive to be bilingual, if we are a country of immigrants we should do more to understand the modern immigrants' situation and make it easier for them.

if nothing else, a bunch of americans speaking spanish will shame latin american immigrants into learning english
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if there is something you feel im ignorant of feel free to enlighten me, cuz honestly i have no idea what the hell you are talking about

why dont you tell me why there is no official language in the constitution

1- Founders found it undemocratic

2- Alot of Founders spoke multiple languages

3- 1st Amendment. Freedom of speech.

4- Due process and legal issues. For example, if we guarantee everyone due process and you make it illegal to not speak English, how do you convict someone who doesn't speak English without blatantly violating that clause? How do they consent to searches? How do they waive their right to a speedy trial?

5- How do your enforce an official language without violating the Constitution?

6- 14th Amendment is violated.

Take my state Florida for example. It lists English as an official language. Guess what? No one gave a fukk. Florida still prints paperwork in Spanish and Creole. It still have state employees for translation. Police units still have translators. There are still communities in South Florida where English is the 2nd language. How do your enforce that without violating civil liberties?
 

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I don't care about immigrants learning English because.....

at times, that language and business etiquette barrier is the reason why they Can't take the lead or high paying jobs.

It makes them non-competition for me and I like as little competition as possible. They can be as skilled or as technical as the want....but HR nearly 100% of the time will say they "don't fit the culture" .... which most of the time is true in that case.
 
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