Racists already mad on Twitter due to commercials

[Mr. Somebody]

ive been tryna end this but people keep pulling me back in by posting dumb shyt which i have to correct

No need to use profanity though. I think you just have a problem letting a conversation go when you're faced with an opposing viewpoint. You feel like you have to be right or something which drags the conversation out a lot longer then it should be. Maybe you should have become an attorney.

You dont Have to correct anything, friend.

 

[theworldismine13]

we dont' have a common language, otherwise we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

That culture you just described isn't a culture, it's a mode of governance. That culture you described is practiced in many countries the world over, are they also american now? Keep shooting high and general though, that's your safest bet.

You can't paint american culture because to do so you hit to many other cultures and you know it. American culture is an amalgamation of immigrant customs and cultures, right down to American Apple Pie (Dutch).

Embrace OUR history and all of it's origins. THAT is what american multiculturalism is and that's why it's ignorant to deny it.

we do have a common language if we didnt we wouldnt be using it to communicate on this message board

i think what's funny is that people say there already is a common language so there is no need to push english and people will learn english anyway, and then you come along and ruin your crew's own argument and say there isnt and there has never been a common language

alrighty then

but nothing you have said is addressing my overarching point which is that a common language is necessary for social cohesion and governance in a non homogenous nation

i totally agree that american culture is an amalgamation of different cultures, and if you are an immigrant you should not expect to keep your language and culture, you should integrate into the integration, so to speak

if other nations also practice freedom, democracy and economic and individual freedom and also have a similar practice of integrating and assimilating cultures then they are american or very similar to america for all intents and purposes, thats a good thing

 

[theworldismine13]

No need to use profanity though. I think you just have a problem letting a conversation go when you're faced with an opposing viewpoint. You feel like you have to be right or something which drags the conversation out a lot longer then it should be. Maybe you should have become an attorney.

You dont Have to correct anything, friend.

i think you realized that your position had very weak logic, and when i started attacking it logically you realized you couldnt respond

you never explained why you think immigrants will continue integrating when you are advocating changing things, traditionally immigrants by and large have been pushed toward english, you and other people are saying that's wrong and all languages should be respected

im simply asking what makes you think immigrants will continue assimilating at the same rate as before when you are advocating policies that encourage immigrants to keep their language

its a pretty straightforward question i think, but you never answered it

 

[Mr. Somebody]

you never explained why you think immigrants will continue integrating when you are advocating changing things, traditionally immigrants by and large have been pushed toward english, you and other people are saying that's wrong and all languages should be respected

im simply asking what makes you think immigrants will continue assimilating at the same rate as before by encouraging immigrants to keep their language

Money is the only incentive people have to assimilate in my opinion. If im walking through the zoo and i hear someone speaking spanish, it doesnt bother me, and i dont think its really your place to say people in their private lives should privately speak a different language because they live in a particular nation.

Now, as it concerns industry, i feel it is important to have a standard language to allow the blood of the nation, money, to flow unabated, friend.

 

[theworldismine13]

Money is the only incentive people have to assimilate in my opinion. If im walking through the zoo and i hear someone speaking spanish, it doesnt bother me, and i dont think its really your place to say people in their private lives should privately speak a different language because they live in a particular nation.

Now, as it concerns industry, i feel it is important to have a standard language to allow the blood of the nation, money, to flow unabated, friend.

i have never said anything about private lives, i was taking about government policy and corny corporate marketing that encourages people to keep their language

a person has freedom of speech and a right to privacy to speak whatever language they want, but government does not have to respect any language, government's job is to integrate immigrants and to push a common language and common culture

i totally agree that we need a common language to let the money flow, im glad we agree that we need a common language to have a growing economy and make this nation successful

there is nothing wrong with a family talking in spanish at the zoo, there is something really wrong if they cant talk english and there is something wrong if there is a cultural difference between you and them when all of you are in the same country and all of you are american

my point was is that you need a common language for social cohesion and governance

 

[Crakface]

i have never said anything about private lives, i was taking about government policy and corny corporate marketing that encourages people to keep their language

a person has freedom of speech and a right to privacy to speak whatever language they want, but government does not have to respect any language, government's job is to integrate immigrants and to push a common language and common culture

i totally agree that we need a common language to let the money flow, im glad we agree that we need a common language to have a growing economy and make this nation successful

there is nothing wrong with a family talking in spanish at the zoo, there is something really wrong if they cant talk english and there is something wrong if there is a cultural difference between you and them when all of you are in the same country and all of you are american

*my point was is that you need a common language for social cohesion and governance

*It doesnt effect anyone if they cant speak english because they have zero power over commerce in America. If they want to be broke bums so be it. The people that typically cant speak english arent making much money and it is virtually impossible for them to get an education in a foreign language in America. Secondly, cultural differences are also meaningless as long as they respect the laws.

You will always have people that slip through the cracks and make up a a small percentage of non-speaking Americans but all that shyt is dead once they reproduce because their children will go to an American school and learn the language. These people literally have to have their own business, because who is going to hire them?

Where is their power, voting? These people are insignificant.

You just sound shook and irritated at nothing, like an old man.

 

[theworldismine13]

*It doesnt effect anyone if they cant speak english because they have zero power over commerce in America. If they want to be broke bums so be it. The people that typically cant speak english arent making much money and it is virtually impossible for them to get an education in a foreign language in America. Secondly, cultural differences are also meaningless as long as they respect the laws.

You will always have people that slip through the cracks and make up a a small percentage of non-speaking Americans but all that shyt is dead once they reproduce because their children will go to an American school and learn the language. These people literally have to have their own business, because who is going to hire them?

Where is their power, voting? These people are insignificant.

You just sound shook and irritated at nothing, like an old man.

but you already said that tho, and im asking you the same question again

the situation you are describing comes from the traditional model of american immigration where immigrants are pretty much forced to learn english

multiculturalism says something different, it says the government shouldnt push english, it should respect people's languages and cultures and encourage immigrants to keep their culture

so the question you havent answered is why do you expect the same result in the future when you are advocating or siding with a philosophy that is different then the traditional integrationist policies

cultural differences are not meaningless, that is why canada was brought into this discussion

 

[theworldismine13]

lets be real about what's going on, most people in this thread saw a bunch of white racists complaining and you assumed right away that you had to be against it and enjoy the white tears, but the problem is you havent really thought it all the way through

lets be real, none of yall have really thought about the ramifications of or the motivations behind @Type Username Here and @Brown_Pride talking about there is no english language requirement in the constitution, the implication is that the us should stop discouraging non english speakers and actually encourage non english speaking, in other words they think latino and other immigrants should be treated different than italian or polish immigrants that came in the 20th century

yall are focusing on white tears but none of yall have thought about the implications of having a canadian type of structure that encourages immigrants to keep their culture and none of yall have thought about the implications for the social cohesion of the country by encouraging multiple languages and multiple cultures

and a lot of black peolpe havent thought about going for a job interview and being told you have to speak a foreign language, (apparently this is considered progress by some)

there is no evidence anywhere on the planet that encouraging multiple languages and multiple cultures helps a country advance, its only in the us where you have massive integrationist forces that dilute people's original culture and language where diversity sort of works, anywhere else from canada, belgium, nigeria or india its been a failure

and i repeat, due to the fact that we are non homogenous society its doubly important to encourage a common language and common culture

 

[Type Username Here]

lets be real, none of yall have really thought about the ramifications of or the motivations behind @@Type Username Here and @@Brown_Pride talking about there is no english language requirement in the constitution, the implication is that the us should stop discouraging non english speakers and actually encourage non english speaking, in other words they think latino and other immigrants should be treated different than italian or polish immigrants that came in the 20th century

Man, shut your racist, xenophobic ass up.

Do you KNOW why there is no language requirement in the constitution?

I attacked your nonsense emotional logic from the start. You are implying that because these people speak another language that they can't or don't want to speak/learn English, which is asinine considering I speak 2 languages fluently (one being the one I am using to type this).


WHY IS THERE NO OFFICIAL LANGUAGE DECLARED IN THE CONSTITUTION?

 

[Master Teacher]

lets be real about what's going on, most people in this thread saw a bunch of white racists complaining and you assumed right away that you had to be against it and enjoy the white tears, but the problem is you havent really thought it all the way through

lets be real, none of yall have really thought about the ramifications of or the motivations behind @Type Username Here and @Brown_Pride talking about there is no english language requirement in the constitution, the implication is that the us should stop discouraging non english speakers and actually encourage non english speaking, in other words they think latino and other immigrants should be treated different than italian or polish immigrants that came in the 20th century

yall are focusing on white tears but none of yall have thought about the implications of having a canadian type of structure that encourages immigrants to keep their culture and none of yall have thought about the implications for the social cohesion of the country by encouraging multiple languages and multiple cultures

and a lot of black peolpe havent thought about going for a job interview and being told you have to speak a foreign language, (apparently this is considered progress by some)

there is no evidence anywhere on the planet that encouraging multiple languages and multiple cultures helps a country advance, its only in the us where you have massive integrationist forces that dilute people's original culture and language where diversity sort of works, anywhere else from canada, belgium, nigeria or india its been a failure

and i repeat, due to the fact that we are non homogenous society its doubly important to encourage a common language and common culture

You have the point, the problem is, the traditional western world is losing power, and a lot of other countries force their students to learn english from childhood anyway

also most immigrants learn english or their kids learn it, I've literally been on sale where someone's 8 year child and to translate everything because the parent couldn't speak English

Also the point of the commercial is to show that America is a multicultural country which it is
spanish is damn near a second language in this countries where cities have signs in both languages its just reality

 

[theworldismine13]

Man, shut your racist, xenophobic ass up.

Do you KNOW why there is no language requirement in the constitution?

I attacked your nonsense emotional logic from the start. You are implying that because these people speak another language that they can't or don't want to speak/learn English, which is asinine considering I speak 2 languages fluently (one being the one I am using to type this).


WHY IS THERE NO OFFICIAL LANGUAGE DECLARED IN THE CONSTITUTION?

i already answered your question, there is no official language in the constitution because there wasnt a need for it and there never has been a need for it, the latest wave of immigrants in the past 30 years is the first group of immigrants under the guise of multiculturalism, that go around demanding that the government speak their language ,that has never been policy before, before immigrants were pushed to speak english

i dont see what languages you know have to with anything, you can speak in any language you want, its a free country

but there is nothing racist or xenophobic in saying that this country needs a common culture and a common language

 

[Type Username Here]

i already answered your question, there is no official language in the constitution because there wasnt a need for it and there never has been a need for it, the latest wave of immigrants in the past 30 years is the first group of immigrants under the guise of multiculturalism, that go around demanding that the government speak their language ,that has never been policy before, before immigrants were pushed to speak english

i dont see what languages you know have to with anything, you can speak in any language you want, its a free country

but there is nothing racist or xenophobic in saying that this country needs a common culture and a common language

Damn, you really don't know do you? You're just guessing. Go learn the reason why:

1) There is no official language in the Constitution
2) All efforts to establish one have been shot down

If you wan't a "common culture" how about you do your fukking part and learn the history and laws of your country?

 

[88m3]

but there is nothing racist or xenophobic in saying that this country needs a common culture and a common language

can't make this shyt up

 

[theworldismine13]

You have the point, the problem is, the traditional western world is losing power, and a lot of other countries force their students to learn english from childhood anyway

also most immigrants learn english or their kids learn it, I've literally been on sale where someone's 8 year child and to translate everything because the parent couldn't speak English

Also the point of the commercial is to show that America is a multicultural country which it is
spanish is damn near a second language in this countries where cities have signs in both languages its just reality

im fully aware of the situation in this country regarding languages and ethnic diversity, i live california, im aware, that is why i am saying what i am saying, the social cohesion of the us is something that has to be addressed or it will blow up in the future, multiculturalism does not address social cohesion, its just some shyt that makes people feel good

 

[theworldismine13]

Damn, you really don't know do you? You're just guessing. Go learn the reason why:

1) There is no official language in the Constitution
2) All efforts to establish one have been shot down

If you wan't a "common culture" how about you do your fukking part and learn the history and laws of your country?

there is no significance as far as anything im saying to there being no official language in the constitution, the fact that you keep bringing that up just exposes the hole in the argument that everybody already speaks english so whats the big deal

in essence you are implying that not everybody has to speak english, and therefore english need not be a unifying language for all americans, a notion i take issue with