Racists already mad on Twitter due to commercials

[theworldismine13]

1- Founders found it undemocratic

2- Alot of Founders spoke multiple languages

3- 1st Amendment. Freedom of speech.

4- Due process and legal issues. For example, if we guarantee everyone due process and you make it illegal to not speak English, how do you convict someone who doesn't speak English without blatantly violating that clause? How do they consent to searches? How do they waive their right to a speedy trial?

5- How do your enforce an official language without violating the Constitution?

6- 14th Amendment is violated.

Take my state Florida for example. It lists English as an official language. Guess what? No one gave a fukk. Florida still prints paperwork in Spanish and Creole. It still have state employees for translation. Police units still have translators. There are still communities in South Florida where English is the 2nd language. How do your enforce that without violating civil liberties?

ok thanks for the information, so what does that have to do with what im saying?

what i said is that its very important for social cohesion that the us have a common language and common culture, that is actually a generic statement that applies universally to all countries and all societies

 

[Type Username Here]

ok thanks for the information, so what does that have to do with what im saying?

How about you stop telling people how to be American if you don't know your own country's laws and culture.

 

[theworldismine13]

How about you stop telling people how to be American if you don't know your own country's laws and culture.

ive said from the beginning that under freedom of speech and right to privacy anybody can speak whatever language they want, im not aware of me suggesting anything that would violate anybodies constitutional rights, so i believe im fully aware of the countries laws and culture and history

and as i clarified with BP before, individuals have rights, languages do not have rights, i think maybe that is where you are a bit confused

none of that changes the fact of the need for a country to have a common language and common culture

 

[dennis roadman]

While the a lot of white people disliking that commercial are coming from a racist point of view with no rational thinking behind their statements, I've always thought that English should be the official language of the country. I wrote an essay about it in my american politics class. You really need the members of a nation to have a common language or something to identify themselves as being part of said nation. Having nations inside a nation can be dangerous as it will lead to secession and civil wars at the first sign of any significant destabilization. History has proven that.

you're from 305 and you're not bilingual, you lost. dont be mad at me for it

 

[theworldismine13]

I think the framework we're working in to define multiculturalism exists in your mind and means different things for different people. What it means in a broad sense, is what i just said it meant in my last post. You're trying to fit that definition into your own definition or trying to lump everyone who believes in multiculturalism into a defined framework that you've decided upon when in reality it has a very loose interpretation that i believe most people describe the way i described it, not you.

English will be taught in schools until America is recolonized by invaders.

so in other words you cant answer the question, because like i was saying most people just assume multiculturalism is good good cuz it causes white tears, and some black people mistakenly assume that the non white non english speaking people are less racist than white people

but FYI multiculturalism says that all languages and cultures are equal and should be treated as such, which sounds nice until you start analyzing the ramifications of it, and as far as the US is concerned you should think about the ramifications to the rate of assimilation of immigrants by advocating multicultural policies

the high rate of assimilation of immigrants to america is due to the fact that the us traditionally has not had multicultural policies, quite the opposite, english and american culture is rammed down immigrant's throats

 

[rantanamo]

Cultural diversity is a strength because it brings fresh ideas about how to live, work, play and govern. Those societies or people that can't handle it need to look at themselves in the mirror and ask why they can't. Are they jealous? Do they like to take their shortcomings out on others? Are they unwilling to adapt if something works best for them? Homogenous works when the population is small, so there is little risk of error. Basically you find something that works and you stay with it. You might be the best at one or two things, but you never do anything great. You're like the suburban family where both parents are middle management and can't get beyond that ceiling. Great, stable life, and that's fine for many, but you'll never move beyond that. And your system likely wouldn't work if there were more people. As we see with those societies, they age quickly and begin to wither under tax burden because no one is there to pay taxes. See Japan, Northern Europe, Southern Europe. Those are 'stale' societies. Prosperous, but can't move past what they are. Cultural diversity is one way around that.

 

[dennis roadman]

the high rate of assimilation of immigrants to america is due to the fact that the us traditionally has not had multicultural policies, quite the opposite, english and american culture is rammed down immigrant's throats

almost entirely untrue. assimilation is possible because it's largely been encouraged instead of enforced. most immigrants learn english because they know it will give them and their families more opportunities, not because they want to become more "american".

 

[theworldismine13]

almost entirely untrue. assimilation is possible because it's largely been encouraged instead of enforced. most immigrants learn english because they know it will give them and their families more opportunities, not because they want to become more "american".

that's just a different way of saying the same thing, most immigrants are forced to become "american" whether they want to or not because of the way america is, im referring to that pressure that you are describing as ramming English and american culture down their throats

my point is if people are arguing that english doesnt have to be a common language and people should be able to get along in society fine without learning english, then there is less incentive and less pressure to learn english and therefore the rate of assiilation lessens which leads to the dark said of diversity which is less social cohesion

 

[Crakface]

so in other words you cant answer the question, because like i was saying most people just assume multiculturalism is good good cuz it causes white tears, and some black people mistakenly assume that the non white non english speaking people are less racist than white people

but FYI multiculturalism says that all languages and cultures are equal and should be treated as such, which sounds nice until you start analyzing the ramifications of it, and as far as the US is concerned you should think about the ramifications to the rate of assimilation of immigrants by advocating multicultural policies

the high rate of assimilation of immigrants to america is due to the fact that the us traditionally has not had multicultural policies, quite the opposite, english and american culture is rammed down immigrant's throats

Can you outline the ramifications because maybe im not seeing the doom and gloom future that you're seeing.

Are you saying that people like me see it one way but clowns like Clown Pride and Dyke Username want to see a world of como te llamas where everyone is required to know spanish and the American White culture is upsurped as the dominant culture of the nation? Help me understand the ramifications.

 

[dennis roadman]

that's just a different way of saying the same thing, most immigrants are forced to become "american" whether they want to or not because of the way america is, im referring to that pressure that you are describing as ramming English and american culture down their throats

my point is if people are arguing that english doesnt have to be a common language and people should be able to get along in society fine without learning english, then there is less incentive and less pressure to learn english and therefore the rate of assiilation lessens which leads to the dark said of diversity which is less social cohesion

if you want to co-opt what i said just to say you're agreeing with something that's the opposite of what you said, then you've just up-ended the entire point of internet forums, and discourse in general

and you do realize how fascist you sound, yeah? american english speakers can argue all they want about the merits of learning english in this country, but immigrants aren't stupid and the most ambitious ones are going to learn the language to the best of their intellectual and financial abilities out of sheer practicality, not because some native-born american citizens decided it was a good idea for the sake of nationalism.

just curious, how much have you done to promote english education in this country? have you sponsored anyone applying for an F-1 Visa, donated time or money to english language schools, or sat down and taught someone to speak english?

 

[gho3st]

you're from 305 and you're not bilingual, you lost. dont be mad at me for it

I speak/write both french and english fluently and even understand spanish.....

 

[dennis roadman]

I speak/write both french and english fluently and even understand spanish.....

and not once have you offered a hand to @Grams or made @Liu Kang feel more at home?

 

[theworldismine13]

Can you outline the ramifications because maybe im not seeing the doom and gloom future that you're seeing.

why would you see it? the word ramification implies the future, you would only see hints of it you wouldnt see the full ramifications until the future, what you are seeing today is the results of NOT having multicultural polices, the results of saying english is most important, the results of changing to multicultural polcies or bilingual policies wont be seen until the future,

you have to use your brain, if we go from a (unwritten) policy that says you have to learn english to a policy where we say english is just another language, what would the rate of english learning be in new immgrants? common sense would tell you there would be less incentive for people new to the country to learn english in the future

are you that naive that you think the us is in auto pilot? the policies we implement today effect the future, if you say english and spanish should be treated the same that will change the future, if you havent thought about the ramifications of that then you shouldnt go along with it just because it causes white tears, if you want to see what bilingual policies look like look at canada, which despite what people say almost did break up over language

 

[gho3st]

and not once have you offered a hand to @Grams or made @Liu Kang feel more at home?

America's language is English. @Grams got no business learning French If he's really that desperate, he can download Rosetta Stone.

 

[Crakface]

why would you see it? the word ramification implies the future, you would only see hints of it you wouldnt see the full ramifications until the future, what you are seeing today is the results of NOT having multicultural polices, the results of saying english is most important, the results of changing to multicultural polcies or bilingual policies wont be seen until the future,

you have to use your brain, if we go from a (unwritten) policy that says you have to learn english to a policy where we say english is just another language, what would the rate of english learning be in new immgrants? common sense would tell you there would be less incentive for people new to the country to learn english in the future

are you that naive that you think the us is in auto pilot? the policies we implement today effect the future, if you say english and spanish should be treated the same that will change the future, if you havent thought about the ramifications of that then you shouldnt go along with it just because it causes white tears, if you want to see what bilingual policies look like look at canada, which despite what people say almost did break up over language

Yes i believe the US is on autopilot. We're on a crash course to make Spanish a secondary language once latin americas population goes POW!!!! and eventually whites will want to succeed from all the latino's like those french wanted to get away from English speakers. It cant be stopped. This white mans world wont last forever bruh.