PRIME IVERSON VS PRIME D WADE. WHO WAS BETTER?

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Actually its the other way around. Going by your logic D'Antoni's teams would be good defensively.

That's not my logic at all....You're confusing offensive skillsets with a system offense

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/story?storyId=8149373&wjb=&pg=1&lang=ES
Rule No.3: If you get rid of his friends, cover your ears. It came to a head when the team released his pal Vernon Maxwell this season. A despondent Iverson went storming to Brown to say, "All my best friends are released or traded," which Brown denied to his face. "I said, 'Vernon isn't gone because he was close to you,'" Brown says. "But Allen said, 'What about Stackhouse?' And then he himself said, 'No, you're right, I couldn't have played with Stackhouse.' And then he said, 'Larry Hughes!' And then he said, 'Oh, you're right, I knew Larry had to leave because he and I play the same position.' And then all that stuff stopped."


http://www.nytimes.com/1997/12/19/s...-send-stackhouse-and-montross-to-pistons.html
Iverson said he and Stackhouse were beginning to get a feel for each other, but admitted that a trade was probably for the best.
"Stack's a great basketball player, but the situation he's in is probably better for him now," Iverson said. "It's a better situation for us."

You're proving my point..........and you don't even know it

 

[Newzz]

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It's funny how the fact that Eric Snow was an ELITE defensive PG, George Lynch was a good defensive player, Tyrone HIll was a very good rebounder/defensive player, and Mt. Mutombo was a BEAST on defense is all getting thrown out the window in order to make it seem like Iverson was surrounded by nothing.

Especially when Aaron McKie was the 6th Man of the Year and could score/pass/rebound/defense/shoot as well.

No, McKie wasnt gonna start, because him and AI played the same position and McKie couldnt play defense at the defensive level of an Eric Snow......but if you were really watching basketball like you claim you've been since 1985, then you would remember that 01 Sixers team.

Larry Brown surrounded his inefficient chucker with unselfish, defense-minded players.....and it worked. AI could NOT win without him dominating the ball on offense and he was not that eager to pass the ball. Combining that with the fact that he was a 6'0 160lbs SG made him a liability on defense as well. All he did very well was play the passing lane on defense.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

It's funny how the fact that Eric Snow was an ELITE defensive PG, George Lynch was a good defensive player, Tyrone HIll was a very good rebounder/defensive player, and Mt. Mutombo was a BEAST on defense is all getting thrown out the window in order to make it seem like Iverson was surrounded by nothing.

Especially when Aaron McKie was the 6th Man of the Year and could score/pass/rebound/defense/shoot as well.

No, McKie wasnt gonna start, because him and AI played the same position and McKie couldnt play defense at the defensive level of an Eric Snow......but if you were really watching basketball like you claim you've been since 1985, then you would remember that 01 Sixers team.

Larry Brown surrounded his inefficient chucker with unselfish, defense-minded players.....and it worked. AI could NOT win without him dominating the ball on offense and he was not that eager to pass the ball. Combining that with the fact that he was a 6'0 160lbs SG made him a liability on defense as well. All he did very well was play the passing lane on defense.

Nothing of worth said in this post that hasn't been already stated in this thread......and refuted.....but carry on sir.......carry on indeed......


And yes....since 85.....Looking fondly back on my uncle collecting a 500 dollar bet on the Lakers.........He bought us a hot cable box and a descrambler........

 

[ghostwriterx]

That's not my logic at all....You're confusing offensive skillsets with a system offense

Then please explain how "being offensively sound helps you out defensively"

 

[MoneyTron]

So its one guy fighting 10 other people as to why AI is better. I think this thread has run its course.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

So its one guy fighting 10 other people as to why AI is better. I think this thread has run its course.

Yes it has.......

 

[ghostwriterx]

You're proving my point..........and you don't even know it

You put Iverson's lack of surrounding offensive talent on the "flawed" thinking of Larry Brown, ignoring that Iverson agreed with thinking and also ignoring that Iverson's best team success came with defensive minded role players and not with other good/great offensive talents.

 

[Eternal Tecate]

where do morons go and say shyt like this?


kill yoself dead bro...butter knife through ya eyelids.

One player goes 4/10 from 3 and another goes 5/10 from the paint. Which is better?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Vecsey trolling the hell outta yall......

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

You put Iverson's lack of surrounding offensive talent on the "flawed" thinking of Larry Brown, ignoring that Iverson agreed with thinking and also ignoring that Iverson's best team success came with defensive minded role players and not with other good/great offensive talents.

What positions do Stack and Hughes play?

 

[ManBearPig]

Real talk, 01 Mutombo is better than and center last season maybe outside of Duncan and Iverson stans are like "ummmm yeah mutombo was aight i guess"

 

[Ben.]

AI's team was trash on offense, but they were the best defensive team in the league. Look up the Heat's roster in 09, it was utter trash in every respect.

Ok now you're pushing it...JO, Chalmers, Marion for half the season, Joel Anthony (joke on offense but good on defense) and Haslem.

That team had great/good defenders around Wade too and shooters like Quinn, Cook, Beasley, Moon, Chalmers, and JJ.

 

[LebronsHairline]

AI>Wade when it comes to shooting and ball handling.
Wade>AI when it comes to playing off the ball,

At no point was Wade EVER a better off the ball player than Iverson in fact i'd be willing to bet he scored MORE off the ball then he did on the ball throughout his entire career.

Real talk, 01 Mutombo is better than and center last season maybe outside of Duncan and Iverson stans are like "ummmm yeah mutombo was aight i guess"

Duncan wasn't even the best center last year guy

 

[Eternal Tecate]

Ok now you're pushing it...JO, Chalmers, Marion for half the season, Joel Anthony (joke on offense but good on defense) and Haslem.

That team had great/good defenders around Wade too and shooters like Quinn, Cook, Beasley, Moon, Chalmers, and JJ.

I'm pushing it? Look at the names you just tried to pass as serviceable NBA players. Haslem was the only other guy doing anything on defense.