Pop Smoke's Label Is FURIOUS At Grammy Snub "They're Disrespectful & Trolling, He Sold 2 Million!"

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in all seriousness...am I the only one that thinks Pop Smoke is just average? nothing special. no disrespect to the dead.

Nawl, you're not. Death tends to elevate folks' abilities or potential in da minds of many. People get real revisionist when someone dies. That's when da romanticism comes.
 

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Don't do that. There's been plenty of instances where you've said that nikka is garbage. I know because I've agreed with you a few of those times.
Fivio has improved regardless of how I may feel about him he’s still lit and has a formula that works for him

He’s not an upper echelon talent but there’s room for guys like him

The NY savior talking point was cool 12 years ago not today when the city breaks artists every year
 
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He is right about mf's trying to overcompensate for all of that backlash. Going from just picking the most popular shyt to going to the extreme of nothing but dope underground shyt is some troll shyt. When you start reaching wit shyt like D-Smoke, you are effectively trolling.

d smoke was on worldwide netflix show for 10 episodes and got picked by featured stars like cardi and chance, arguably the some of the most popular artists in hiphop. not including the other big name guest on the show like quavo, hit-boy, sounwave, etc.
if you classify that as "underground" then either you dont have netflix or you dont like rap and dont need to be in this conversation.
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in all seriousness...am I the only one that thinks Pop Smoke is just average? nothing special. no disrespect to the dead.
For starters he was special he had one of the strongest new rap voices in years he could truly command a room or dominate a function with his vocals and he was charismatic on and off the mic

Did you listen to Meet The Woo his first project? That tape is hard as fukk.

Music sometimes can’t be understood if you’re not seeing the rise or living in the culture

Nikkas here love Sada Baby for example but I’m not from Detroit it don’t hit me the same I don’t see what’s so special
 

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So what do you think should be the balance between respecting people who did numbers, like Pop and Baby, while also respecting underground artists?

The Grammys are trolling by making the rap categories lean so far left. They didn’t include any albums that had commercial success. I’m not saying that’s the criteria for the Grammys. Lil Baby and Pop Smoke, those were culturally impactful records. You look at the songs from Pop Smoke, they were super relevant with what was going on in our community earlier this year. Same for Lil Baby, he dropped a record specifically talking about issues. This is music that’s the soundtrack of our lives. That’s what people are listening to, broadly. Some people are listening to Freddie Gibbs like you said, some are listening to Jay Electronica. But those are subsects. Across the board, this is what people are listening to to get them through their days.

This is not 2002, where record labels can force music down consumers’ throats. People go on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Music, and they pick what they want to listen to. The public made this decision that these albums are what they’re listening to, so what are we talking about with these nominations? Now more than ever. How do you not incorporate that into the “biggest awards in music”? How do you not factor that in? You have to this year, more than any year. You have to listen to what the people want.


they still do :mjlol:
 

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the coli is really bizzaro world way too many out of touch old bitter nikkas with biased opinions against anything modern and relevant
i dont care what planet you're, or what circles you're in, BK Drill was only relevant because Pop Smoke had a label behind him and got pushed to the masses. That NY drill scene is garbage thru and thru.

His sound was new to most (because ppl dont know shyt), but it was a fkin mashup of UK drill and French rap.

oh, and Fivio is trash period.
 
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i dont care what planet you're, or what circles you're in, BK Drill was only relevant because Pop Smoke had a label behind him and got pushed to the masses. That NY drill scene is garbage thru and thru.

His sound was new to most (because ppl dont know shyt), but it was a fkin mashup of UK drill and French rap.
BK drill was hot and relevant to the youth in the tri state before anybody knew who Pop Smoke was.. rappers were getting millions of views for years before he came along he was just the first to have a mainstream hit from the scene and was catapulted from there because he is a special and unique artist who had the talent to transcend drill

and please dont start this "they stole the UK sound" shyt because you have no idea what you're talking about.. DJ L(Chicago producer) fathered the "UK sound" and the only reason their producers got placements in NY is because their shyt sounded like his beats
 
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