“People Who Downplay Latinos Role In Hip Hop Are SO STUPID” - KRS-One

IllmaticDelta

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Thank you bro... I know I ain't freaking crazy lol

A nikka back then trying to touched a mic that the DJ had would have gotten boo'd or punched.

And A dude trying to be a rapper was some weirdo sh*t for a long time

Stop with the FALSE facts! Rappers were already doing their thing




it's just that the Herc scene lacked them!

 

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.Graf isn't really a part of HipHop


It only became a part of HipHop because a subset of those graf artists from the "Black" community also were part of the black party scene that gave birth to HipHop. Those same cats were the ones doing the flyers like Riff170, Phase2, Sisqo kid etc...



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LOL. I was saying the same thing as a discrepancy concerning Tariqs documentary and u ignored that part because you never even saw it. Wait till u finally see the documentary. You're gonna go "Oh..so that's what Planktons issue was."
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You're gonna go.."No Tariq graf wasn't a part of Hip Hop at it's birth" like I did
 

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he's not lying, what he said is facts and can easily be proven!

Are you agreeing with that weirdo that Ricans/Caribbean people are at odds/enemies to Blk Americans?

That Rican/Caribbean people tell their kids bad things about blk americans?
Not to play with them etc?

You agreeing with that?
 

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I am not sure what you disagreeing with sir/maam?

They been coming to ny since then
Blk people BEEN in ny even before th at

Ricans and Blk Americans have ALWAYS coexisted and HAD SEXUAL INTERCOURSE

Then and now

What is your disagreement about?
You're a special kind of parasite aren't cha 13th amendment equals not coexisting of fornicating for HUNDREDS OF YEARS @Uncouth Savage
 

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You're a special kind of parasite aren't cha 13th amendment equals not coexisting of fornicating for HUNDREDS OF YEARS @Uncouth Savage

13th amendment prevented Ricans from coexisting with Blk Americans?

I might be a bit slow, so explain better my genius friend.

Are you saying they white?
Explain better, thanks
 

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Stop with the FALSE facts! Rappers were already doing their thing




it's just that the Herc scene lacked them!



Y'all got me exhausted lol

In every argument there's gonna be a nikka showing a picture or video saying "see, look... you're wrong. This happened".

The DJ never needed an MC. And if you ever went to a party, i guarantee you aint seen a nikka on a mic rapping.
The DJ was the show.
No one came to hear a nikka on a mic.
They came to dance.

If a nikka eventually got on the mic it was some quick sh*t.
Then they got back to dancing.

You can even see this all the way up close to the 90s.
Even in the movie house party.
 

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False!

In Harlem the MC was first






In the Bronx scene, the Bboy was first



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.Graf isn't really a part of HipHop



It only became a part of HipHop because a subset of those graf artists from the "Black" community also were part of the black party scene that gave birth to HipHop. Those same cats were the ones doing the flyers like Riff170, Phase2, Sisqo kid etc...






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w/o the Rapper, HipHop doesn't become an actual movement/genre of music and it dies by 1977





We don't know who Mc'd/ rapped first at the party

We don't know who was the first boy

You said graffiti ain't apart of hop.
Then said graffiti is Only apart of hip hop because.

Y'all got me beat lol
 

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You called me dumb, so you should be telling me who?
But since your being cordial now, I'll take the invitation.

The nationalities in the streets of NY are responsible for the creation of hip hop.

It wasn't an artist or group of artists.
That's why this conversation is goofy

It's STREET CULTURE.

New York streets are made up of black, Latino and Caribbean people.
It's that simple.

FBA street culture? yes

West Indian and Rican, street culture? no


Ricans and West Indians weren't dressing like this



If it's a lie, Herc told it himself



and the Ricans admitted to it too













This was Rican street culture in the 1970s




5% nation wasn't West Indian or Rican culture, that FBA street culture



 

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All I know is Latinos & black folks in NYC been around each other since hiphop began,now idk if they helped create it or not, but it’s obvious that they were apart of it in some form or fashion since the beginning.

and let’s not act like they weren’t in one of hiphops most hiphop type of movie scene ever lol

 

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Oh you trolling?

Yes sir/maam, Ricans been coming to NY and having sexual intercourse/friendships/families/neighbors with Blk Americans for hundreds of years

Point?

Many many many many New Yorkers are a Blk American/Rican mix going back to the 19th century

So YES, they been in the mix
And are a part of the mix
And are BLACK PEOPLE
 

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We don't know who Mc'd/ rapped first at the party

Dj Hollywood is the first modern rapper, PERIOD!!!!!!



We don't know who was the first boy

Trixie is the first Bboy at Herc's parties but they existed prior to that @ the Plaza Tunnel circa 1969/1970


You said graffiti ain't apart of hop.

It wasn't...it started in Philly in the mid 1960s before most of the canon of bboy songs were even made!

Then said graffiti is Only apart of hip hop because.

Y'all got me beat lol

I already told you how it ended up in the mix!
 

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FBA street culture? yes

West Indian and Rican, street culture? no


Ricans and West Indians weren't dressing like this

Notice you did not answer if you agree with the weirdo that Ricans/Caribbean people are ENEMIES/FOES to Blk Americans

Do you really believe that sir?

And AGAIN
There is a major difference between born n bred AMERICAN CITIZENS
And those who born in puerto rico and the caribbean, then moved here, or been here only 10 years.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Joe and Busta and Bam are AMERICANS

Born and Raised in American culture

They not any kind of immigrants sir
Your xenophobia is messing you up
 

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All I know is Latinos & black folks in NYC been around each other since hiphop began,now idk if they helped create it or not, but it’s obvious that they were apart of it in some form or fashion since the beginning.

and let’s not act like they weren’t in one of hiphops most hiphop type of movie scene ever lol


But what you probably don't know is, Black American youth were doing this in the early 70's where there were no PR's. The documentary Microphone Check goes into this & gives those pioneers their credit & actually interviews them
 
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