Parents Keep It 100 In Son's Obituary

[Atsym Sknyfs]

eve went with and was fooled by the devil taking the imagery of god's wisest creature the snake.
that is all we know.

as the devil is a thief and a liar.
not to mention in the case of kane.
the greatest trick the devil pulled.
was making it as if the devil never existed.


art barr

i know that ...but are we blaming the parents (adam and Eve) for Kane killing Able. did they not raise them right. technically they both were raise the same .. Kane just tried to be slick with the offerings and got jealous.

 

[Wildhundreds]

Everytime I am sitting in a service for a person who I know wasn't shyt and I am hearing how great they were I am like . Death doesn't change who you were. If you were a selfish, destructive, abusive etc. ass what is the point of acting like you weren't just because you died...especially if those negative qualities led directly to your death?

There there's this



Although I rock with the idea of keeping it 100, I did get a little bit of this too. The part about going against what his parents taught him and basically putting everything on him like they didn't raise his ass. It did seem like they were trying to distance themselves from any culpability. And as parents what purpose does it realy serve to go in on him like that? I am all for not acting like he was some saint and even not doing the service but to basically turn his obit into "Hey we were good parents. We don't know what we did to deserve such a shytty kid. May the Lord bless him though." was a bit much. I mean it's one thing if it's peers or kids or pretty much anyone that didn't raise the person doing this. But you are right, this doesn't sound right coming from parents.

Breh, you'd be amazed what people consider to be "good parenting"..

The letter was 100, but at the same time it looks as if they were justifying their fcked up parenting as well.

 

[Gator48]

Some people are born into fukked up situations and some people create their own fukked up situation..

 

[Art Barr]

i know that ...put are we blaming the parents (adam and Eve) for Kane killing Able. did they not raise them right. technically they both were raise the same .. Kane just tried to be slick with the offerings and got jealous.

the issue with adam is.
he put the creation above the creator.

so, the lesson of adam is lost.

which is be hoh.
which means never follow a creation.
that has sold their virtue to another creation, for another creation.
as that is a non-committal based person.

adam should have never vouched for eve.
after she went off with another creation of the creator.
as god created the devil, eve and adam.

that is the lesson.

everything else that occurred.
is because adam did not excercise free will and follow the will of the creator.
thus creating the situation where his son.
or the son he believed to be sired was taken from him.
well and away after god.
had ushered adam and eve out of the pan region.

into the devil's realm, and reality outside the pan region.


art barr

now i am done here.
if you take anything away from this.
just know,..never follow the spell.
or will of a compromised creation of the creator.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

i dont want to turn this into a religion talk. but

All Adam did was exercise free will... putting the creation about the creator Adam.s choice.
Vouching for Eve .. Adams choice.
blaming God for giving him eve which caused him to sin .. Adams Choice..

its all free will being exercised.

my talk is about choices we freely choose. there's nobody to blame for them but ourselves.


if i cheat on my wife do i blame the girl for being there saying come do me or is it my fault for entertaining.

 

[Barlow]

Just sounds like some clout chasing “don’t blame us” shyt

I ha e the same kind of of mother/grandmother. You can’t have a basic conversation without them trying to not be blamed for something.

 

[AllHolosEve]

Didn't finish whole thread yet but fukk this.

To them parents. This is exactly what I requested from my people. No service, cremation, have a celebration of life & if someone does do a eulogy I want that shyt 100% truth.

Going to funerals & listening to priest & family telling straight always made me cringe. I don't give a fukk how much I love you, this how shyt would be if I did your shyt.

If you expect mothafukkas to speak good about you in Death you should be giving them something to work with in life. If you scared of them talking about what you did in life you shouldn't be doing it.

 

[ISO]

I don't respect that.

Things like that stand out as red flags to me. When a kid is messed up, the first thing I will do is look at the parents so it doesn't sit right when their port of call is to demonstrate that they did their job when dealing with the demise of their son.

I'm left with the impression that their image is and was always more important than what their son was going through.

Man please

 

[Black Steph Curry]

How the fuk do you know?

Demons are mythology dum dum. I deal in reality.

 

[Barlow]

Also if this what y’all believe I hope to never see another dap fishing “so and so father/parents failed them” post because y’all love those

 

[murksiderock]

On Fathers Day 2017, I took my dad out for lunch. We hadn't spoken in about three months, I'll spare the long part of it, so the Fathers Day lunch was to try to clear the air for us both...

My dad is really my stepfather (older brother's bio), but he was around most of my youth and ultimately took my older brother and I in. I'm named after him, because he was married to my bio mother when I was born...

Somehow our lunch turned really emotional, I was telling him it was tough growing up under him with the practices he allowed my stepmother to get away with, and with him driving a wedge between our bio mother and us. I told him I resented him for that...

The most painful words anybody has ever said to me have come from three of my four parents, and on that Fathers Day, here I am 28 years old, my dad responded to everything I was saying with, paraphrasing: "I'm sorry I wasn't a perfect dad, okay? I did the best I knew how to do with you guys, I didn't have a father to show me how to be a father. But do you really think you were a perfect son? You're not the son I wanted, either"...then proceeded to list the characteristics and experiences I'd had that i didn't get from him and that he didn't condone...

shyt hit like a muhfukka and after we parted ways I went home and had a good, long cry. Never heard that from him or knew he felt that way...

I'm saying that to say this, I don't blame the parents here, I get it. I'm not sure I would say the same, so I'm more indifferent to it than anything. When my parents took us in and moved us east, we lived in a two parent home in the suburbs with two people who weren't involved in illegal activity nor condoned or glorified criminal behavior. Alota people looking in from the outside didn't know those werent my/our real parents or our background, and outside looking in, too hard working, loving parents, looks like we were in as good a situation as kids can get...

What people are never privy to is your personal life if you don't allow them there, so while my parents weren't involved in illegal shyt, ask me if they were involved in immoral or unethical shyt and you'll get a different answer. When I started straying towards the streets they spoke out against it and tried to save me, to an extent, but of course there were a host of other influences, one of the more underrated being it's hard to buy into hypocrites in the moment who try to save you, but also created and cultivated an unhealthy and dangerous environment that helped build poor behavior...

I don't think the parents should be automatically regarded as great parents who did everything they could do, because there is a wild variance between what you see from people and what you don't. My heart goes out to them because they didn't encourage that lifestyle with him and they lost a child, though. So overall I'm indifferent...

Ultimately regardless of rearing, everybody eventually has the ability to make their own choices. His choices aren't their fault but his behavior quite possibly could be the result of parenting, so I get how some people can see this as a selfish and manipulative, grandstanding post...

 

[murksiderock]

I ha e the same kind of of mother/grandmother. You can’t have a basic conversation without them trying to not be blamed for something.

Three of my four parents, bro. All day...

 

[Umoja]

My dad is really my stepfather (older brother's bio), but he was around most of my youth and ultimately took my older brother and I in. I'm named after him, because he was married to my bio mother when I was born...

Somehow our lunch turned really emotional, I was telling him it was tough growing up under him with the practices he allowed my stepmother to get away with, and with him driving a wedge between our bio mother and us. I told him I resented him for that...

This doesn't read right chief.

Your family is your family but you need to assess the situation. You came after his relationship with your mum, you're not his kid, but you're pulling him up on things he allows his new wife to get away with.

I'd feel some type of way if I was in his situation.

 

[GodsPerspective]

Most parents don't keep it real about their kids. Even one of the Columbine killer mother said her son was a good kid . Most parents are delusional about their own kids because all they see is that innocent baby they birthed and raised.Parents never keep it all way 100 about their kids no one has ever heard a parent say about their troubled kid "Yea they in hell right now".

Y'all are wrong about this. It's not that they are delusional, it is that their pride will not allow them to be honest about the child they raised as they will be blamed for the outcome (as evidenced by the responses in the thread blaming the parents)

 

[get these nets]

To people seeing this as parent's copping pleas....................how do you explain the public condolences to the family of whoever their son killed while he was running the streets?

Stop it. Most people are NOT grooming their kids to be street criminals, so when they choose that route it brings disappointment and shame to the parents. People can try to tapdance around it, limbo under it, or do the running man, I don't give a fukk.

Bust your ass to try to instill values in your family to have them go off doing lowlife shyt.