Only 7 Black Students Got Into NY's Most Selective High School, Out of 895 Spots Only 7 out of 895

[EndDomination]

No one will bother looking into this BS till the wyte acceptance rate hits abt 10%..... until then the headline will be about how Black kids can't learn... cuz they're black.........

The White parents who really care send their kids to near-by state day schools, boarding schools, and the technical schools in their area, not to mention the arts and other magnet schools.

The segregation in schooling still won't affect White kids to the extent it affects Black kids.

 

[JLova]

75 percent who were accepted are Asian. 20% white. The rest black and Hispanic and that’s among all three technical hs in nyc?

Honestly we gotta have a real conversation about how we educate our children in the black community.

We do. But there are many factors here. White and Asian parents simply have the money and assets to educate their children. Blacks do not for a variety of reasons. Some direct, some indirect.

But when you see this story of white parents paying a bunch of money to get their kids illegal entry into schools, you understand why the demographics are the way they are. When you see that inner city schools get little to no funding, you understand why the demographics are the way they are. When you look at black men and women making less than white men and women even while being more educated, you understand why the demographics are where they are. When you look at the US and generational wealth which white people started with and blacks were not allowed to have, you understand why demographics are the way they are. When you look at teachers and guidance councillors pushing black students into trades and white/Asian students into tech, you understand why demographics are the way they are.

Lastly, we also have to look at ourselves and what we are doing. But the blame doesn't just fall on how we are raising these kids.

 

[EndDomination]

And this is a multi-tiered problem:

Black children are poorer overall than White and Asian children in NYC.
Black children are far more likely to be in single-parent homes than White and Asian children in NYC.
Black children are far less likely to have parents that have graduated from college then White and Asian children in NYC.
Black children are far less likely to have "tiger-parents," regardless of income, culture, or parental profession, than White and Asian children in NYC.
Black children attend sub-par elementary and middle schools at a much higher-rate than White and Asian children in NYC. They also are far less likely to attend "feeder-schools" that help prepare you for the magnet schools. Less likely to have parents or even family friends that are alumni of the schools.
Black children are far less likely to have tutors or preparation for the exams than White and Asian children in NYC.

All-in-all, this is a complex problem, both cultural, in an individualistic way, and systemic.

 

[concise]

Ok.

Do you have any solution, ideas?

They have to start here.






1. Start with fixing elementary and junior high scores and 2. perhaps start banning kids coming from private schools from the specialized high schools.

This is a problem with multiple causes because even if you are smart, if you have other interests like sports or art, you are aiming for Brooklyn Tech, Townsend Harris, or LaGuardia over a less rounded school like Stuyvesant or Bronx Science.

 

[EndDomination]

I totally agree with the posters above me.

Just a disclaimer before I say this.

Ain't it funny how bootstraps rhetoric is ok when it comes to defending liberals?

Thing is, this has absolutely nothing to do with the "liberal" portion of the political spectrum.

 

[Matt504]

You’re dumb as fukk, it’s literally the same exact equivalence. Lol @ yours being an observations and others being a generalization.

You made a stereotype about an entire group of people (Asian) just like your down syndrome ass was capping for Jewish people when others did the same.

I’m more educated and make more $$$ than you. Let’s ban bet.

You’re a homosexual bum who does nothing but spread anti-black male propaganda. A walking failure you are. You probably resent black men so much because you were raised by women. Ol neck snapping ass bytch

Again, petulant child, your comparison is faulty and now you want to have a pissing match about it and in the same breath call me the neck snapper, this is called projection.

Tiger mom's are a subset of a larger group, Jews are an entire group. If you do make more money than me, consider yourself blessed because your posting here leads me to believe you might be grossly overpaid

 

[EndDomination]

Do well on the test, you get in...It's simple.

Not that simple, "doing well on the test" requires you to be both gifted and familiar with the material, or incredibly hard working and familiar with the material.
If your parents don't pay for a tutor and you don't go to a school that keeps you at or above grade level consistently, you're not going to do well on the exam.

Its like the SAT or the LSAT.

Why do you think Asians are over represented in elite schools?

I remember a story about whites trying to cap how many Asians can get into Harvard or Yale or whatever Ivy League it was.

Immigration standards in the US have exacerbated the income-rise of East Asians in the US, coupled with wealthy flooding of cultural hubs in the US and the overrepresentation of high-achieving/wealthy Asian populations in major areas in the US, they're bound to compete.

Study: Hispanic, Black Parents Value College Degree More Than Whites - Education Writers Association

Can We Finally Drop the Idea That Black Parents Don't Care About Education?

These studies mean nothing if there isn't action behind them.
"Caring" about higher-ed for your child is great, but if you don't make them do their homework, have them in different camps during the summer, work and read with them throughout their childhood, and put your foot forward when its time for college applications, then caring means nothing.

There was this documentary about porn stars maybe in the early 2000's. One of them was Asia Carera and they went into her life growing up, and she was a fukking genius. But her parents were strict as hell though. They didn't play. In high school she came home with an A-. They were like A-? Dumb bytch you're grounded.

Yeah, she's a loon. Got a full-ride in undergrad though, pretty sure she dropped out.

At people saying it’s because black students don’t study. FOH, First of all not many black people even take that test. You have way more black kids taking the specialized catholic school test more than this test. Secondly because of zoning in the city some parents are fine letting their kids go to their zoning school which is just as good. Why would I send my kid to Stuveysant when Cardozo, Bayside, Townsend Harris (Better school than all of the three specialized schools) are right around the block?

Those schools are all majority Asian too, and you have to have a requisite GPA and test score for them as well. Townsend Harris is 6% Black, I think Cardozo has the most Black students.

 

[EndDomination]

Stop it. So, ADOS parents don't push their children. Hence, the MANY ADOS with degrees -- out of everyone -- and thriving. Stop it.

Yall sound like White people -- white supremacist.

Non-ADOS/immigrants culture is better than those lazy ass Blacks in America huh?

I agree with you, but there is a bit of confirmation bias, which makes things murkier.

The best example I've seen is that AAs in the Great Migration outperformed their Northern counterparts along nearly every metric: they graduated high school and went to college at higher rates than Northern AAs, married and stayed married, purchased homes when they could, etc.

Its not that AAs are lazy, but the people that tend to immigrate, either by income, career, or sheer-exceptionalist force of will and intelligence, outperform the population of the (Western) countries they immigrate to, almost all of the time.

Impoverished AA households, particularly the broken homes, are placed in the spotlight far more often than the successful ones.

 

[saturn7]

The problem of asians being OVERREPRESENTED in education has to addressed. Unfortunately a certain demographic of so called black people have decided to attack BLACK immigrants instead of these asian cats.

The problem is even worse in california. Damn near impossible to get into a top cali school as a black man. When the reality is in the 60's and 70's USC, Stanford, Cal State all had sizeable black population and was a fertile ground for the black panthers!

Can't imagine any type of Black Panther type group coming out of these white washed Cali universities of today.

You could've made your point without the unnecessary ADOS slander. Tone and co have addressed Asians and their cheating asses and over-representation in Universities several times.

 

[Shoog Shatmi]

The best example I've seen is that AAs in the Great Migration outperformed their Northern counterparts along nearly every metric: they graduated high school and went to college at higher rates than Northern AAs, married and stayed married, purchased homes when they could, etc.

That's interesting. You have a source for it?

 

[Astroslik]

Again, petulant child, your comparison is faulty and now you want to have a pissing match about it and in the same breath call me the neck snapper, this is called projection.

Tiger mom's are a subset of a larger group, Jews are an entire group. If you do make more money than me, consider yourself blessed because your posting here leads me to believe you might be grossly overpaid

You peasant, admit that you’re the biggest smart dumb nikka on this website. You’re literally trying to juelz this shyt and it’s sad.

You bend over backwards and cape for non-black men. You’ve been exposed as a fukking fraud and a culo blaster.

How about you get a life and a job peasant? Look how much you post on this website. Nearly 4x as much post as me and you joined a month earlier. You’re a loser. We all make more money than you, fukking bum. Get a job and put some bass to your voice before you speak to a man.

 

[EndDomination]

That's interesting. You have a source for it?

I remember reading it both in Isabel Wilkerson's The Warmth of Other Suns and I believe it was mentioned in Amy Chua's book the Triple Package.

 

[xoxodede]

I agree with you, but there is a bit of confirmation bias, which makes things murkier.

The best example I've seen is that AAs in the Great Migration outperformed their Northern counterparts along nearly every metric: they graduated high school and went to college at higher rates than Northern AAs, married and stayed married, purchased homes when they could, etc.

Its not that AAs are lazy, but the people that tend to immigrate, either by income, career, or sheer-exceptionalist force of will and intelligence, outperform the population of the (Western) countries they immigrate to, almost all of the time.

Impoverished AA households, particularly the broken homes, are placed in the spotlight far more often than the successful ones.

Thanks for responding.

But, with your Great Migration comment - wouldn't that be most ADOS?

My family migrated to Michigan from Alabama during the Great Migration - on both sides -- and they all either worked and retired from the Plant -- or real estate owners. BUT, all of their children have college degrees + or somewhat successful business/real estate owners -- myself included. And their Great-Grand children are following the same path. This is not rare in ADOS families -- but people want to have a hyper focus on those who are not. YES, we have issues -- but to act like it's our "culture" -- when they don't even know our "culture" -- and many claim -- we don't have any. It's getting on my last nerves. I'm about to start calling people out -- and their homes.

I don't know about NYC -- but this generalization that many immigrants and non-ADOS have about ADOS being lazy and not focused on education is sick and untrue.

Also, if we wanted to -- ADOS could say similar myths about their culture based on what's happening in their countries. But, we don't.

To continue to repeat the same thing White supremacist and their supporters (asians, etc) believe about Blacks (ADOS) isn't cool.

 

[Matt504]

You peasant, admit that you’re the biggest smart dumb nikka on this website. You’re literally trying to juelz this shyt and it’s sad.

You bend over backwards and cape for non-black men. You’ve been exposed as a fukking fraud and a culo blaster.

How about you get a life and a job peasant? Look how much you post on this website. You’re a loser. We all make more money than you, fukking bum.

It seems like you have a fundamental misunderstanding of a lot of things unfortunately. Juelzing is when people move goalposts to maintain their stances when they're on faulty foundations, I'm doing no such thing. I also have a life and a career making a pretty handsome salary in spite of how much I post on this site.

Try to stick to actual arguments and leave the name calling to people who don't pretend to be educated.

 

[xoxodede]

I remember reading it both in Isabel Wilkerson's The Warmth of Other Suns and I believe it was mentioned in Amy Chua's book the Triple Package.

I don't remember it being mentioned in Mrs. Wilkerson's book -- but I'm going to add "Triple Package" to my reading list.