Official Tory Lanez / Megan Thee Stallion Trial Thread

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Bro it was just a stupid thing to say. Regardless if there were charges or not

People need to stop talking so much on social media

This is a fact. But even during the trial they were trying to say he don't run his own account so it's was no proof he even said it. What's worse is the damn prosecution failed to run the IP address proving the message came from him. This nikka literally got sent away and the prosecution fukked up in every way imaginable when it comes to this case. There was only like 1 or 2 effective people on the stand. That was the stylist and that GSR chick. The damn independent witness was so all over the place the damn jury had to get someone to translate and read his testimony back to them.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Can you quote the witness saying Tory shot "in the air"?

again:

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[spliz]

Exactly. How do the jury see this. Hear this. Look at all the inconsistencies. And file to send this man away for years based on it? If anything they shoulda just ordered these 3 muthafukkas to stay away from eachother and moved the fukk on. @FreshAIG add to the fact that Megan's testimony to what happened that night is completely different from what she described on her IG lives. I think them bytches was so drunk that night they don't even remember what the fukk happened.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Exactly. How do the jury see this. Hear this. Look at all the inconsistencies. And file to send this man away for years based on it? If anything they shoulda just ordered these 3 muthafukkas to stay away from eachother and moved the fukk on.

Even the audio is weird.

3 shots then 2 shots

OK. If Kelsey fires the first ones, how does Tory get the gun? Does she politely just give it to him?

Or does he grab it and the gun keeps going off?

Meg looks back and thinks tory fired all 5 shots because she doesn't know kelsey fired the first two

witness doesn't even see actual gun only flashes

we have GSR + flashes

Same GSR + flashes on kelsey.

Its either 1 Kelsey + 4 Tory

or

its 3 Kelsey + 2 Tory

It's pure math.

Five shots.

 

[Yayo Toure]

Crazy how you go from being offered a plea to guilty on all counts. Someone messed up.

 

[spliz]

Even the audio is weird.

3 shots then 2 shots

OK. If Kelsey fires the first ones, how does Tory get the gun? Does she politely just give it to him?

Or does he grab it and the gun keeps going off?

Meg looks back and thinks tory fired all 5 shots because she doesn't know kelsey fired the first two

witness doesn't even see actual gun only flashes

we have GSR + flashes

Same GSR + flashes on kelsey.

Its either 1 Kelsey + 4 Tory

or

its 3 Kelsey + 2 Tory

It's pure math.

Five shots.

All im saying is I believe Tory shot that gun but I believe Kelsey shot that shyt first and it was a struggle for the gun. Which bullet landed on the ground next to Megan and injured her? I don't know. And since the LAPD didn't even do their job on the scene of the crime. How the fukk would anyone know?

 

[FreshAIG]

She lied about sleeping with Tory. Which is a BIG deal to the case being that it's what started the tension and argument in the first place. She also lied about fighting Kelsey. They both lied about that. On the stand. My question is. Why deny there was a fight? Megan said Kelsey and her didn't even argue. They teamed up against Tory. We all know that's a lie based on what the independent witness said. shyt in the Gayle interview Megan said she didn't even raise her voice. This shyt all MEANs something bruh. Megan was all of a sudden forgetful of what bag she used. She lied on her stylist by saying he left her and he got on the stand and said he would NEVER do anything like that and completely contradicted her story. See the thing is. People are picking and choosing what to pay attention to and coming to conclusions, End of the day. There was too much inconsistencies from the night and the only non drunk witness and impartial witnesses said Megan was buggin and drunk af that night and that Meg and Kelsey was fighting. Megan also lied and said she never backdoored Kelsey as well. That Kelsey only had a crush and Kelsey got on the stand and completely contradicted that statement. Let's not even discount the fact that what Meg and Kelsey said on the stand completely contradicted the prosecutions opening argument. Can't even say Tory lied. Being that he never took the stand. Based on all of the inconsistencies. Misinformation and lack thereof. I couldn't in good conscience put a nikka away for that. How u gonna charge a nikka for possession when noone even proved it was his gun. The LAPD didn't trace back the owner. 2 people had GSR all over their hands. And the independent witness said he believed the female fired the first shot? Make it make sense bruh. lol

Her lying about sleep with him is not a big deal to the case. It means nothing to the evidence they have against Tory. Her and Kelsey fighting means nothing to whether Tory would get convicted or not, either. Let's say hypothetically her and Kelsey fought and Kelsey shot at her. That just means she did it first, that doesn't mean Tory didn't as well. I see your argument is that Kelsey is the one that could have shot Meg, but that in and of itself doesn't clear Tory is my point bro. There was too many things against him evidence wise.

There's still Meg's testimony, and Kelsey's original interview were they both said Tory pointed the gun at Meg and shot her. Along with the texts messages moments after the shooting from Kelsey to Meg's bodyguard saying "Tory shot Meg". Then add in the eye witness who said Tory shot the gun "everywhere" and discharged 4 to 5 rounds. So that's 3 people putting the gun in Tory's hands, and him pointing the gun in Meg's direction for sure in at least two of the statements. The bullet that actually hit Meg is irrelevant, you can be charged with assault with a firearm in California by merely pointing a gun at someone. The gun not being his is irrelevant too because 3 eye witnesses put the gun in his hands the night of the shooting, which means he was in possession of an illegal firearm.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

All im saying is I believe Tory shot that gun but I believe Kelsey shot that shyt first and it was a struggle for the gun. Which bullet landed on the ground next to Megan and injured her? I don't know. And since the LAPD didn't even do their job on the scene of the crime. How the fukk would anyone know?

Her lying about sleep with him is not a big deal to the case. It means nothing to the evidence they have against Tory. Her and Kelsey fighting means nothing to whether Tory would get convicted or not, either. Let's say hypothetically her and Kelsey fought and Kelsey shot at her. That just means she did it first, that doesn't mean Tory didn't as well. I see your argument is that Kelsey is the one that could have shot Meg, but that in and of itself doesn't clear Tory is my point bro. There was too many things against him evidence wise.

There's still Meg's testimony, and Kelsey's original interview were they both said Tory pointed the gun at Meg and shot her. Along with the texts messages moments after the shooting from Kelsey to Meg's bodyguard saying "Tory shot Meg". Then add in the eye witness who said Tory shot the gun "everywhere" and discharged 4 to 5 rounds. So that's 3 people putting the gun in Tory's hands, and him pointing the gun in Meg's direction for sure in at least two of the statements. The bullet that actually hit Meg is irrelevant, you can be charged with assault with a firearm in California by merely pointing a gun at someone. The gun not being his is irrelevant too because 3 eye witnesses put the gun in his hands the night of the shooting, which means he was in possession of an illegal firearm.

We have 5 rounds to account for.

Which ones did Kelsey shoot?

audio goes 3 then 2

witness says tory shot 4 to 5 times. It clearly wasn't 5 if same witness says it looks like one GSR + Flash came from Kelsey. Maybe.

Thats 4 rounds.

OK. If Kelsey has same GSR + Flash as tory does, then which round hit meg?

This isn't that difficult man.

You get 5 bullets. Where did they go?

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

The charges are this:

1. assault with a semi-automatic firearm (personal use of a firearm)
2. carrying a loaded, unregistered firearm in a vehicle
3. discharging a firearm with gross negligence

We dont know who shot meg. This is a gun case. This isn't about Meg.

Tory didn't even pull the gun. Kelsey did, according to the eye witness.

Kelsey wasn't charged when she fired the first shot according to the witness Sean Kelly

Why?

any firing of the weapon is the charge in Cali.

If kelsey fired a shot, she doesn't truly know which bullet hit meg. The state didn't care which rounds she actually fired, because according to the eye witness: Tory shot FOUR or FIVE times. Say four. Thats one unaccounted for because the same witness also saw a "flash" near kelsey. Which would mean GSR + Flash = Kelsey firing at least one round.

Kelsey texting that "tory shot meg" does not absolve Kelsey of the round(s) she shot.

We have 5 rounds to account for. This is pure math.

if Kelsey shot any of those 5, she only needs ONE of them to hit meg

if the witness says tory was shooting in the air, how do we account for which one hit Meg?

Its just math.

Meg didn't see anything. She connects sounds with blood and asserts the guy she last saw with the gun was tory. She can't admit she doesn't know what Kelsey's rounds did or where they were aimed.

You can’t have an assault charge without a subject. This is not just a gun case. The assault was for shooting someone. That someone was Meg.

 

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Her lying about sleep with him is not a big deal to the case. It means nothing to the evidence they have against Tory. Her and Kelsey fighting means nothing to whether Tory would get convicted or not, either. Let's say hypothetically her and Kelsey fought and Kelsey shot at her. That just means she did it first, that doesn't mean Tory didn't as well.

There's still Meg's testimony, and Kelsey's original interview were they both said Tory pointed the gun at Meg and shot her. Along with the texts messages moments after the shooting from Kelsey to Meg's bodyguard saying "Tory shot Meg". Then add in the eye witness who said Tory shot the gun "everywhere" and discharged 4 to 5 rounds. So that's 3 people putting the gun in Tory's hands, and him pointing the gun in Meg's direction for sure in at least two of the statements. The bullet that actually hit Meg is irrelevant, you can be charged with assault with a firearm in California by merely pointing a gun at someone. The gun not being his is irrelevant too because 3 eye witnesses put the gun in his hands the night of the shooting, which means he was in possession of an illegal firearm.

The problem is witnesses put the gun in Kelsey's hands. And have her shooting as well. All of those lies DO count bruh. All this he said she said don't really mean much to me since none of them were really reliable. Especially the 2 that already lied on the stand. What wouldve been reliable is the prosecution and the LAPD doing their due diligence at the scene and tracking the gun to the owner for some actual PROOF. In the least he shouldnt have been found guilty on all 3 counts. Because all 3 counts havent been proven. If he's to get charged. So should Kelsey. That's the point im making. She was implicated just as much as Tory has. Not only that. She lied on the stand and literally said she lied to the prosecution. Got granted immunity and plead the fifth. All of that shyt counts and is considered reasonable doubt. This is how the law works. If this case wasn't in the DA's hands it probably wouldve been thrown out or atleast not won. Tory was going against the city and them losing is embarrassing considering they didn't even do their jobs correctly. I feel like either both Tory and Kelsey deserved to be charged. Or none of them. I feel like anyone who's cool with only Tory getting charged. Is cool with Meg's potential shooter getting away with the crime. Based on the facts of the case presented.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You can’t have an assault charge without a subject. This is not just a gun case. The assault was for shooting someone. That someone was Meg.

You're not answering my question

The assault with a deadly weapon has various statutes including just using the gun.

Theres 5 rounds to account for.

Who fired the shot who hit Meg?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The problem is witnesses put the gun in Kelsey's hands. And have her shooting as well. All of those lies DO count bruh. All this he said she said don't really mean much to me since none of them were really reliable. Especially the 2 that already lied on the stand. What wouldve been reliable is the prosecution and the LAPD doing their due diligence at the scene and tracking the gun to the owner for some actual PROOF. In the least he shouldnt have been found guilty on all 3 counts. Because all 3 counts havent been proven. If he's to get charged. So should Kelsey. That's the point im making. She was implicated just as much as Tory has. Not only that. She lied on the stand and literally said she lied to the prosecution. Got granted immunity and plead the fifth. All of that shyt counts and is considered reasonable doubt. This is how the law works. If this case wasn't in the DA's hands it probably wouldve been thrown out or atleast not won. Tory was going against the city and them losing is embarrassing considering they didn't even do their jobs correctly. I feel like either both Tory and Kelsey deserved to be charged. Or none of them.

Yep.

We have 5 bullets to account for.

If Kelsey shot ONE (or more) of them, then we truly do not know which ones Tory is accountable for hitting meg with except Meg things Tory did it and never do we get to ask: What about these other ones Kelsey shot.

If Tory is shooting in the air, then how do we ignore the shots kelsey didn't shoot in the air?

 

[spliz]

Yep.

We have 5 bullets to account for.

If Kelsey shot ONE (or more) of them, then we truly do not know which ones Tory is accountable for hitting meg with except Meg things Tory did it and never do we get to ask: What about these other ones Kelsey shot.

If Tory is shooting in the air, then how do we ignore the shots kelsey didn't shoot in the air?

There u go. That's what im saying. U either charge both. Or charge neither for lack of proof.

 

[FreshAIG]

We have 5 rounds to account for.

Which ones did Kelsey shoot?

audio goes 3 then 2

witness says tory shot 4 to 5 times. It clearly wasn't 5 if same witness says it looks like one GSR + Flash came from Kelsey. Maybe.

Thats 4 rounds.

OK. If Kelsey has same GSR + Flash as tory does, then which round hit meg?

This isn't that difficult man.

You get 5 bullets. Where did they go?

Again, you're missing the point, his bullet doesn't have had to be the one to hit Meg for him to be charged with assault with a firearm. Simply pointing the gun at Meg is a assault with a firearm charge in California. The Jury believed Meg's testimony along with Kelsly's original interview.

Even if Kelsey shot Meg and Tory didn't actually "shoot her", him merely pointing at her direction is an assault with a firearm charge.

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In order to understand this criminal offense, you first need to know exactly what “assault” means. Under California law, “assault” is described as unlawfully attempting to commit an injury on another person when you have the ability to carry it out.

It's important to note here that the other person does NOT have to sustain an actual injury to be charged with assault with a firearm. In fact, just pointing a loaded firearm at another person could be sufficient cause to support charges under PC 245(a)(2).

A common example of an assault with a firearm crime in Los Angeles County includes a situation two people become involved in an argument in a bar and one invites the other to the parking lot to settle the matter.

After moving to the parking lot, one of the men retrieves a firearm from their car and starts waving and pointing it at the other person with whom they were arguing.