Official Godzilla: King of Monsters Thread

[Cartier Murphy]

Which is why Brian Collins wrote the article asking do people even like Godzilla movies or just like the idea of Godzilla movies. Fans said the first movie was too serious and didn’t show enough Godzilla. Cool. Second movie tries to balance that tone and shows every single monster. Damned if you do damned if you don’t.

I would honestly say probably the latter. I don’t think that we, here in the States, have the same reverence for Godzilla that Japan does and the rest of the world for that matter. In his home country he’s a cultural icon, a symbolic reminder and metaphor for the horror of war and, with Shin Godzilla atleast, a metaphor for catastrophes beyond human comprehension and intervention. Here, he’s a giant fire breathing lizard that has a cool roar I think this movie is his best US made outing but I can definitely see why this movie might not be for everyone and why it’s underperformed. It’s a big piece of fan service, but if you don’t know of these characters like that or fukk with them on that level, it’s 2 hours and change of characters spouting exposition at you with big CGI monster fights in between, to US audiences at large this isn’t really all that different than something like Pacific Rim, except that Godzilla is more of a household name.

And I think, and this goes back to that blockbuster bubble popping thread we posted in, that seemingly every movie trying to build a cinematic universe these days is both so transparent and not always carried out well enough, to where if people feel like a project exists just to make more movies, why see this? Why not skip it and go see Kong vs Godzilla instead if you’re on the fence? I mean that’s in addition to waiting till it hits home media and whatnot as well but I think everyone and their attempts to build these big, interconnected universes the way Marvel has done is also an understated reason for why a lot of these big blockbusters seem to be underperforming. A film should stand on its own two feet first and foremost, and if it warrants a sequel, spin-off, trilogy, etc. through box office returns and fan/and or critic demand then okay, but to map out a series before a lot of these movies even have release dates is misguided and the reaction to this I think supports that. I like this movie and the idea of a Monsterverse, but if it ain’t getting over with the audience, what can you do

 

[MartyMcFly]

I would honestly say probably the latter. I don’t think that we, here in the States, have the same reverence for Godzilla that Japan does and the rest of the world for that matter. In his home country he’s a cultural icon, a symbolic reminder and metaphor for the horror of war and, with Shin Godzilla atleast, a metaphor for catastrophes beyond human comprehension and intervention. Here, he’s a giant fire breathing lizard that has a cool roar I think this movie is his best US made outing but I can definitely see why this movie might not be for everyone and why it’s underperformed. It’s a big piece of fan service, but if you don’t know of these characters like that or fukk with them on that level, it’s 2 hours and change of characters spouting exposition at you with big CGI monster fights in between, to US audiences at large this isn’t really all that different than something like Pacific Rim, except that Godzilla is more of a household name.

And I think, and this goes back to that blockbuster bubble popping thread we posted in, that seemingly every movie trying to build a cinematic universe these days is both so transparent and not always carried out well enough, to where if people feel like a project exists just to make more movies, why see this? Why not skip it and go see Kong vs Godzilla instead if you’re on the fence? I mean that’s in addition to waiting till it hits home media and whatnot as well but I think everyone and their attempts to build these big, interconnected universes the way Marvel has done is also an understated reason for why a lot of these big blockbusters seem to be underperforming. A film should stand on its own two feet first and foremost, and if it warrants a sequel, spin-off, trilogy, etc. through box office returns and fan/and or critic demand then okay, but to map out a series before a lot of these movies even have release dates is misguided and the reaction to this I think supports that. I like this movie and the idea of a Monsterverse, but if it ain’t getting over with the audience, what can you do

All good points

 

[newarkhiphop]

watching this weekend

 

[Ironman]

Which is why Brian Collins wrote the article asking do people even like Godzilla movies or just like the idea of Godzilla movies. Fans said the first movie was too serious and didn’t show enough Godzilla. Cool. Second movie tries to balance that tone and shows every single monster. Damned if you do damned if you don’t.

Every movie in the heisei era was about thisThe showa era was silly as fukkThe 1953/4 OG Godzilla was shown for 9 minG2014 was in there wayyy more. These complainers aren't fans they just complaining to comI'll say one fatal flaw was 5 years it should've dropped same year as Kong right after in May

 

[Ironman]

I would honestly say probably the latter. I don’t think that we, here in the States, have the same reverence for Godzilla that Japan does and the rest of the world for that matter. In his home country he’s a cultural icon, a symbolic reminder and metaphor for the horror of war and, with Shin Godzilla atleast, a metaphor for catastrophes beyond human comprehension and intervention. Here, he’s a giant fire breathing lizard that has a cool roar I think this movie is his best US made outing but I can definitely see why this movie might not be for everyone and why it’s underperformed. It’s a big piece of fan service, but if you don’t know of these characters like that or fukk with them on that level, it’s 2 hours and change of characters spouting exposition at you with big CGI monster fights in between, to US audiences at large this isn’t really all that different than something like Pacific Rim, except that Godzilla is more of a household name.

And I think, and this goes back to that blockbuster bubble popping thread we posted in, that seemingly every movie trying to build a cinematic universe these days is both so transparent and not always carried out well enough, to where if people feel like a project exists just to make more movies, why see this? Why not skip it and go see Kong vs Godzilla instead if you’re on the fence? I mean that’s in addition to waiting till it hits home media and whatnot as well but I think everyone and their attempts to build these big, interconnected universes the way Marvel has done is also an understated reason for why a lot of these big blockbusters seem to be underperforming. A film should stand on its own two feet first and foremost, and if it warrants a sequel, spin-off, trilogy, etc. through box office returns and fan/and or critic demand then okay, but to map out a series before a lot of these movies even have release dates is misguided and the reaction to this I think supports that. I like this movie and the idea of a Monsterverse, but if it ain’t getting over with the audience, what can you do

In Godzillas case specifically it's always been a franchise. If I remember correct it's the longest running franchise in cinema history currently. Fans here just don't connect to Godzilla though it's all about superheroes.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Every movie in the heisei era was about thisThe showa era was silly as fukkThe 1953/4 OG Godzilla was shown for 9 minG2014 was in there wayyy more. These complainers aren't fans they just complaining to comI'll say one fatal flaw was 5 years it should've dropped same year as Kong right after in May

In Godzillas case specifically it's always been a franchise. If I remember correct it's the longest running franchise in cinema history currently. Fans here just don't connect to Godzilla though it's all about superheroes.

Mr. Stark doesn't lie

 

[MenacingMonk]

I enjoyed the hell out of this. Best American Godzilla flick.

Started off slow, but when it picked up it never stopped. Thought it was a good combination of mixing the human side of things with the monsters.

Mothra was underused. Her ending could have really had more of an impact if she was used more.

Vera Farmiga’s character wasn’t even needed. Movie could have did without her.

Wish there was at least 5-10 more minutes of action, but I’ll take what we got.

8/10

Also, was that Anguirus coming outta the hill?

 

[Spliff]

I admit I purposely overlooked how fukking awful the human side of this film was. The stan in me error-corrected any lapse in logic and general nuisances so I can enjoy the gawd as much as I set out to.

That family was terrible.

 

[Majestyx]

I admit I purposely overlooked how fukking awful the human side of this film was. The stan in me error-corrected any lapse in logic and general nuisances so I can enjoy the gawd as much as I set out to.

That family was terrible.

its ok, they were unimportant really

 

[MenacingMonk]

Unused Gigan concept art:

Kumonga/Gamera concept art:

Monsterverse Gigan, Kumonga and Gamera revealed in official Godzilla 2 movie art book! - Godzilla Movie News

Toho or Legendary got the Gamera rights?

I still need to finish the series. Only seen the first movie.

 

[MenacingMonk]

Serj’s Version is harder, but I prefer the OG:

 

[Ironman]

I enjoyed the hell out of this. Best American Godzilla flick.

Started off slow, but when it picked up it never stopped. Thought it was a good combination of mixing the human side of things with the monsters.

Mothra was underused. Her ending could have really had more of an impact if she was used more.

Vera Farmiga’s character wasn’t even needed. Movie could have did without her.

Wish there was at least 5-10 more minutes of action, but I’ll take what we got.

8/10

Also, was that Anguirus coming outta the hill?

Nah they don't have his rights it's

 

[MenacingMonk]

Nah they don't have his rights it's

Ah. Is Anguirus Toho property?

 

[HipHopStan]

Toho or Legendary got the Gamera rights?

I still need to finish the series. Only seen the first movie.

In the book hes called Unused Turtle Monster but if you look at it, there's no doubt who that's supposed to be. I dod read back in 2017 that Legendary had spoken with Kadokawa (the people who own Gamera) though. Idk if talks ever got serious or not.

 

[Ironman]

Ah. Is Anguirus Toho property?

Yea besides the big 4 in the film Toho didn't give them the rights to anyone else. All the other monsters mentioned were created for the movie