Official 'Atlanta' Season 3 Thread

[BuckFilly]

Big Zig and the Gang, I need you. There’s an unshakable theme I haven’t seen anybody talk about. White people ending up in the water. Dying in the water that. I haven’t been able to tie it to anything yet and I can’t think of any example in ep 2.

Thoughts?

I drew parallels between white dude committing suicide by the pool to our ancestors jumping in the water off the slave ships during the middle passage

 

[BuckFilly]

I ain’t read this whole thread yet but is van fukking Darius? fukk was she up so late and happy for after their day together?

 

[Buddy]

It wouldn't have made sense for the main story line but they should've had him come out to serve Earn and the crew at the end

 

[Buddy]

In effect he’s what white “Jesus” truly is. Its no coincidence that he came back three episodes AFTER his first appearance

Dope analysis but I got a good chuckle outta this

 

[Ziggiy]

I ain’t read this whole thread yet but is van fukking Darius? fukk was she up so late and happy for after their day together?

No

 

[wire28]

I did notice that actually. At the time I had assumed sheniqua was texting from her phone at that point. That’s funny

 

[pcpking]

I ain’t read this whole thread yet but is van fukking Darius? fukk was she up so late and happy for after their day together?

I don't think it was Darius, if anything I think it was the white lady that killed Pac.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

I meant none main characters

I’ve said this since the first season. Black people, as a whole, are mostly shown as ignorant, ghetto, stupid or low class, except for the main characters. Hell just look at the names they give them. Shaniqua, Loquavious (even if it’s a play on loquacious), etc.

This makes sense because Donald Glover, and 3/4 of the main actors spent the majority of their formative and adult years around white people (Lakeith notwithstanding). The show feels like it’s for black people who don’t really know black people, but want to speak for black people. Which is why it’s such a darling of Bourgeois Black Twitter.

It’s not a show that naturally makes you want to look deeper and find meaning; it’s a show that intentionally wants you to feel like you don’t get “it.” And if you’re one of the ones who do get it, then you’re a talented tenth . It’s like they want to be Aaron McGruder but don’t really know how.

It hits you over the head with a hammer every week that says “this is deep! Look for the hidden messages! “

The show has very creative moments and the direction is always good, but it’s just never been for me. I’m glad I read Donald Glover’s latest interview because it gave good insight into why he makes the shows he makes. He’s a white washed black man and he knows it he’s just trying to navigate through it all.

 

[Voice of Reason]

I’ve said this since the first season. Black people, as a whole, are mostly shown as ignorant, ghetto, stupid or low class, except for the main characters. Hell just look at the names they give them. Shaniqua, Loquavious (even if it’s a play on loquacious), etc.

This makes sense because Donald Glover, and 3/4 of the main actors spent the majority of their formative and adult years around white people (Lakeith notwithstanding). The show feels like it’s for black people who don’t really know black people, but want to speak for black people. Which is why it’s such a darling of Bourgeois Black Twitter.

It’s not a show that naturally makes you want to look deeper and find meaning; it’s a show that intentionally wants you to feel like you don’t get “it.” And if you’re one of the ones who do get it, then you’re a talented tenth . It’s like they want to be Aaron McGruder but don’t really know how.

It hits you over the head with a hammer every week that says “this is deep! Look for the hidden messages! “

The show has very creative moments and the direction is always good, but it’s just never been for me. I’m glad I read Donald Glover’s latest interview because it gave good insight into why he makes the shows he makes. He’s a white washed black man and he knows it he’s just trying to navigate through it all.

There is nothing with those names because I don't believe in the idea of "ghetto names" that's just a anti black shaming tactic. But over all I agree with you.

 

[imfromthesouthside]

While it was nice to see white people finally get their due. It feels like they don’t know where they are going with this show and throwing in these episodes without the main cast. It’s like after the last two great episodes we’re back to this dream state. I hate to say it but it feels like filler to an extent. And it’s already only 50 minutes with Hella commercials. Even when on dvr, I feel like I’m fast forwarding a bunch. For an FX show they usually give you more running time. I think this may be the last season. It’s becoming more style than substance. Feels like low hanging fruit just to appease instead of really telling a story.

 

[ML29]

Then again you haven't been watching the series. This is easily debunked by anyone with an ounce of common sense.


Season 1 episode 6 (Value) Van’s friend Jayne isn’t one dimensional. Even as a WAG/Instathot she exhibits more self awareness and a sense of purpose than Van herself does.


Season 1 episode 8 (“The Club”) the bartender that Earn talks to isn’t one note or one dimensional, she’s actually the one who points out to Earn the politics of Club life and what it means to be “out and about”. She also calls out Earn on his own bullshyt and helps him discover something that he himself could not figure out (the trap door)


Season 1 episode 8 (“Juneteenth”) Monique, despite her bougie demeanor, is very well aware of the racial politics surrounding her life and within her own marriage. She made a decision to marry “rich” and live with the consequences of her blubbering white husband’s well intentioned but ultimately cartoonish “ally-ship” to black causes. She’s fully aware, cognizant, and discerning of both her situation and her place within it. Nothing one note about that.


Season 2 episode 1 (Alligator Man) Earn’s uncle Willy, though temperamental and mercurial, is also slyly intelligent (he knows the law and his rights enough to temporarily keep the police out of his residence) understanding and accepting of his own failures (he doesn’t argue with Earn’s assessment of his character flaws) and displays enough self awareness to council Earn on the self destructive path that HE is on and advise against it. There is nothing “one note” about this character.

Season 2 episode 3 (“Money Bag Shawty”) The artist Clarke County, a rapper who doesn’t smoke or drink, schools Alfred on proper business moves and explains to him the importance of having good management. He is also smart enough to understand the rat race that he’s in and how
Important it is for him as a black artist to have the connections necessary to continue thrive.


Season 2 episode 6 (“Teddy Perkins”) I think it suffices to say that if you think the character of Teddy Perkins is “dumb” or “one note” then you have no business watching tv or film PERIOD.

Season 2 episode 8 (“Woods”) Alfred’s lady friend Sierra, though initially coming off as rather loud and boisterous, demonstrates a keen understanding of how to play the “game” of being a celebrity. She understands the power of branding, which affords her free clothing and merchandise. She understands the power of social media and creating “fantasy through character” which she tries to convey to Alfred, who initially rejects the “fakeness” of her strategy before accepting and succumbing to it himself by episode’s end.


Season 2 episode 11 (“Crabs In A Barrel”) The black lawyer that Earn takes Alfred to see is well qualified, intelligent, eloquent, and can speak to his business practices . Alfred however, is not impressed, and would rather have a high level “Jewish” attorney. The point of the black lawyer’s aptitude and worthiness is driven home later in the episode when Earn directly asks a Jewish man who has a lawyer for a cousin if “there’s a black lawyer as good as his cousin”. The Jewish clerk replies in the affirmative, asserting that the only difference between white and black lawyers in their connections, which white people have for “systemic reasons”.


Later in the same episode, a black school teacher approaches Earn and Vanessa with the information that their daughter is advanced in her learning capabilities. She implores Earn and Vanessa to enroll their daughter in a private institution that will better prepare for her educationally. She had the wherewithal and the intelligence to see that there was a black child who would benefit from being placed in a better situation and made sure the parents knew that.

You should teach a college course on this show. These breakdowns are phenomenal.

 

[Peachstate]

I'm gonna have to watch this one again. It was the first episode I didn't love on first watch.

 

[Ziggiy]

I’ve said this since the first season. Black people, as a whole, are mostly shown as ignorant, ghetto, stupid or low class, except for the main characters. Hell just look at the names they give them. Shaniqua, Loquavious (even if it’s a play on loquacious), etc.

This makes sense because Donald Glover, and 3/4 of the main actors spent the majority of their formative and adult years around white people (Lakeith notwithstanding). The show feels like it’s for black people who don’t really know black people, but want to speak for black people. Which is why it’s such a darling of Bourgeois Black Twitter.

It’s not a show that naturally makes you want to look deeper and find meaning; it’s a show that intentionally wants you to feel like you don’t get “it.” And if you’re one of the ones who do get it, then you’re a talented tenth . It’s like they want to be Aaron McGruder but don’t really know how.

It hits you over the head with a hammer every week that says “this is deep! Look for the hidden messages! “

The show has very creative moments and the direction is always good, but it’s just never been for me. I’m glad I read Donald Glover’s latest interview because it gave good insight into why he makes the shows he makes. He’s a white washed black man and he knows it he’s just trying to navigate through it all.

This isn’t true and i’ve already debunked it

 

[gluvnast]

This is one of the episodes that I understood but wasn't feeling.

I'm getting to the point where I watch the show just to say I watched it. Its becoming like Insecure, where character development happens off screen and the show only let us see what happens in-between.

I've waited four years only to see the characters be in 2 episodes out of four.

Um. It's not like they never done this before in previous seasons because they have. You just expecting some traditional serialized series and Atlanta VERY been that type of show. I get it that 4 years of waiting you may have forgotten but this has ALWAYS been what it is.

 

[gluvnast]

While it was nice to see white people finally get their due. It feels like they don’t know where they are going with this show and throwing in these episodes without the main cast. It’s like after the last two great episodes we’re back to this dream state. I hate to say it but it feels like filler to an extent. And it’s already only 50 minutes with Hella commercials. Even when on dvr, I feel like I’m fast forwarding a bunch. For an FX show they usually give you more running time. I think this may be the last season. It’s becoming more style than substance. Feels like low hanging fruit just to appease instead of really telling a story.

Except the dreams are connected to the main story. I dunno if y'all surface level nikkaz or not used to this form of storytelling.

Everything so far with the dreams been an allegory to their adventures in Europe.