“No tangibles, No vote” doesn’t make any sense in the current political landscape.

[AngryBaby]

nah. just coming to terms with reality.

At least you aren't stubborn for the sake of being stubborn like tripleagent

 

[AnonymityX1000]

This is true, but it is because the wrong people are getting into government. It literally costs so much to be any sort of federal rep that you have to be plugged in. If local politicians popped off and where voted up in force, there could be change. Again, it requires so much overwhelming voting that margin for error does not apply. That assumes again that the candidates are there and they have to look serious. Not some unkept mouth breather who serves coffee and vouches for some socialist ideals, but well groomed regular people who can be pushed locally to take on establishment.

That said, I will say, politicians are not always entirely not representing their constituents, its just that we typically remember what we don't get more than what we do get unless what we do get is something generational like universal healthcare. The fact that Republicans were able to stifle some of Biden's drug cost agenda means most of the savings go to Seniors, which is fine, but it doesn't affect enough people for us to collectively remember and vote with it in mind. If Student Loan forgiveness was not stunted, that shyt alone would have been a lynchpin move.

Plus Democratic Party leadership and donors sabotage anyone left of the Dem platform. The game is rigged against improvement. That's #bothsiders point.
The Dept of Education and their partner banks push borrowers by phone to get their loans 'consolidated' which usually means a bank buys the debt and the borrower has to deal with them and their loan is no longer under government control and ineligible for forgiveness. The government scamming fukkin' student borrowers out of possible forgiveness. The system is really rigged against regular folks. It leads to a lot of contempt/bad feelings as well.

 

[Pressure]

Salute to @At30wecashout. He always has time to give y’all a thoughtful response to the nonsense he gets.

 

[I Really Mean It]

Every? They can't do it without passing legislation in Congress. He can't just bypass Congress. Thus Dems stopping them, right? Or are all the Dem Senators and House members not going to do anything and just let him do it? Why are you acting like Trump got mind control over them or something? lol

yes, he can bypass congress. he already attempted to do it several times during his first term, but was hamstrung by cabinet members who weren’t sufficiently devoted to the cause and civil servants who refused to do his bidding.

project 2025 is literally a blueprint to bypass congress. the only guardrail is the court system, which is now beholden to a compromised supreme court, who just issued a decision that gives trump a license to commit crimes as long as they’re committed while he is President.

you have a lot to catch up on, it seems.

 

[Mowgli]

This website isn't deciding the next election.

Relax

 

[JT-Money]

Plus Democratic Party leadership and donors sabotage anyone left of the Dem platform. The game is rigged against improvement. That's #bothsiders point.
The Dept of Education and their partner banks push borrowers by phone to get their loans 'consolidated' which usually means a bank buys the debt and the borrower has to deal with them and their loan is no longer under government control and ineligible for forgiveness. The government scamming fukkin' student borrowers out of possible forgiveness. The system is really rigged against regular folks. It leads to a lot of contempt/bad feelings as well.

Democrats are also blocking third-party candidates from getting on the ballot in swing states. But yet claim to be pro Democracy.

You can find all kinds of articles about them blocking ballot access for Cornel West and RFK Jr.

But they can't block voting for the couch.

 

[⠀X ⠀]

Yes, let’s keep giving our vote away for free. That has worked out great for us.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

yes, he can bypass congress. he already attempted to do it several times during his first term, but was hamstrung by cabinet members who weren’t sufficiently devoted to the cause and civil servants who refused to do his bidding.

project 2025 is literally a blueprint to bypass congress. the only guardrail is the court system, which is now beholden to a compromised supreme court, who just issued a decision that gives trump a license to commit crimes as long as they’re committed while he is President.

you have a lot to catch up on, it seems.

OK he tried and he was stopped. And you are saying it was some civil servants, has something changed with them? Also, the Dems in Congress did 0? Wow, what an indictment and you want me to vote for them?

 

[DatBoiHawk]

Wasn’t OP just making trump threads last month? What changed? Project 2025 scared the living shyt out of him huh…

 

[I Really Mean It]

Wasn’t OP just making trump threads last month? What changed? Project 2025 scared the living shyt out of him huh…

it’s a matter of me reconciling myself to an understanding that black america is too weak to allow trump back in office. the majority of us believe change will come by way of the system. while i may not necessarily agree, i accept that there is no systemic path to black empowerment if trump wins and implements his agenda.

if the candidate were someone like romney or jeb bush, i’d feel differently. but he isn’t, and we have less than 4 months to ensure that trump loses.

at this stage, “no tangibles, no vote” is impractical, self-destructive, and just plain dumb. it’s a commendable stance to take, but one that is inappropriate for this particular moment in time, bound to do far more harm to us than good.

 

[Hydroking23]

Glad to see some folks starting to wake up. Project 2025 has made some folks see the light and take voting seriously. Just remember this shyt ain't gonna end with this election. The Heritage Foundation and other conservative/nazi groups have billions of dollars at their disposal and THEY WILL NOT STOP.

 

[DatBoiHawk]

no one got to me. i’ve just spent the past couple of months reading a lot of literature about the forces marshaling around trump, asking myself if my “no tangibles, no vote” stance was a practical position to take in the face of said threat. i no longer believe it is a sound strategy in the present environment.

it only welcomes greater harm to a community that is already grievously vulnerable.

don’t get it it twisted, though. i am not team democrat or team biden, under no circumstances. i do, however, believe it is tactically prudent to vote for biden in november.

there is no other choice if you are concerned with the state of black america. staying home will only benefit nazis who are on the verge of taking over the government.

Wish I could dap you up

it’s a matter of me reconciling myself to an understanding that black america is too weak to allow trump back in office. the majority of us believe change will come by way of the system. while i may not necessarily agree, i accept that there is no systemic path to black empowerment if trump wins and implements his agenda.

if the candidate were someone like romney or jeb bush, i’d feel differently. but he isn’t, and we have less than 4 months to ensure that trump loses.

at this stage, “no tangibles, no vote” is impractical, self-destructive, and just plain dumb. it’s a commendable stance to take, but one that is inappropriate for this particular moment in time, bound to do far more harm to us than good.

im glad you came to your senses bruh

 

[ORDER_66]

it’s a matter of me reconciling myself to an understanding that black america is too weak to allow trump back in office. the majority of us believe change will come by way of the system. while i may not necessarily agree, i accept that there is no systemic path to black empowerment if trump wins and implements his agenda.

if the candidate were someone like romney or jeb bush, i’d feel differently. but he isn’t, and we have less than 4 months to ensure that trump loses.

at this stage, “no tangibles, no vote” is impractical, self-destructive, and just plain dumb. it’s a commendable stance to take, but one that is inappropriate for this particular moment in time, bound to do far more harm to us than good.

You say this but why you hyperfocused on ONLY black foks to hold up this garbage ass party?!!? all these other groups stay home your answer to that is to VOTE harder?!?! OTHERS need to do their part...enough with us being the base...

 

[CBalla]

Biden gets my vote if he takes care of my student loans

 

[I Really Mean It]

You say this but why you hyperfocused on ONLY black foks to hold up this garbage ass party?!!? all these other groups stay home your answer to that is to VOTE harder?!?! OTHERS need to do their part...enough with us being the base...

we stand to lose the most if trump wins.