the trans issue is never going to help democrats. I dont get it.
Newsom vs Deathsantis shadow debate; Thursday, Nov 30th
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Bleed The Freak
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You can send Gavin to the Midwest states and it will end up as a total disaster as nominee.
He completely looks like a West Coast liberal and it's going to be absolutely a disaster.
Call me a hater or whatever. Call Whitmer.
And yes he is talented. But he SCREAMS coastal elite
He completely looks like a West Coast liberal and it's going to be absolutely a disaster.
Call me a hater or whatever. Call Whitmer.
And yes he is talented. But he SCREAMS coastal elite
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no, it isn't. because you can't juelz your way out of the middle class fleeing california's awful taxesdemocrats lie, republicans lie, numbers don't
Numbers? We've already had the numbers discussion on California taxes for middle-class taxpayers, idiot.
The study I linked to you three times already says that there's 38 states with higher effective tax rates than California for the median taxpayer, though they shift to slightly above average when cost of living is factored in. You really never read jack shyt, do you?
Taxes by State
| Overall Rank (1=Lowest) | State | Effective Total State & Local Tax Rates on Median U.S. Household* | Annual State & Local Taxes on Median U.S. Household* | % Difference Between State & U.S. Avg.** | Annual State & Local Taxes on Median State Household*** | Adjusted Overall Rank (based on Cost of Living Index) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Alaska | 6.05% | $4,204 | -43.82% | $4,870 | 4 |
| 2 | Delaware | 6.34% | $4,405 | -41.14% | $4,707 | 1 |
| 3 | Montana | 7.12% | $4,948 | -33.88% | $4,773 | 2 |
| 4 | Nevada | 7.79% | $5,414 | -27.64% | $5,636 | 10 |
| 5 | Wyoming | 8.06% | $5,604 | -25.10% | $5,511 | 9 |
| 6 | Florida | 8.21% | $5,706 | -23.74% | $5,355 | 6 |
| 7 | Utah | 8.23% | $5,719 | -23.57% | $6,887 | 8 |
| 8 | Idaho | 8.29% | $5,765 | -22.96% | $5,545 | 5 |
| 9 | Colorado | 8.53% | $5,930 | -20.75% | $7,383 | 13 |
| 10 | Tennessee | 8.58% | $5,965 | -20.29% | $4,964 | 3 |
| 11 | Oregon | 8.91% | $6,192 | -17.25% | $7,329 | 22 |
| 12 | California | 8.97% | $6,238 | -16.64% | $9,612 | 32 |
| 13 | South Carolina | 9.07% | $6,304 | -15.75% | $5,288 | 11 |
| 14 | Alabama | 9.12% | $6,341 | -15.26% | $4,924 | 7 |
| 15 | District of Columbia | 9.13% | $6,343 | -15.23% | $10,357 | 46 |
| 16 | Arizona | 9.39% | $6,529 | -12.75% | $6,452 | 14 |
| 17 | West Virginia | 9.72% | $6,758 | -9.69% | $4,780 | 12 |
| 18 | New Hampshire | 9.90% | $6,879 | -8.06% | $8,061 | 31 |
| 19 | North Dakota | 10.16% | $7,064 | -5.60% | $6,652 | 25 |
| 20 | North Carolina | 10.51% | $7,307 | -2.35% | $6,302 | 16 |
| 21 | Georgia | 10.55% | $7,335 | -1.98% | $6,692 | 15 |
| 22 | New Mexico | 10.59% | $7,361 | -1.63% | $5,698 | 21 |
| 23 | Virginia | 10.69% | $7,433 | -0.66% | $8,578 | 24 |
| 24 | Hawaii | 10.70% | $7,440 | -0.57% | $10,456 | 50 |
| 25 | Louisiana | 10.75% | $7,469 | -0.18% | $5,710 | 19 |
| 26 | Massachusetts | 10.86% | $7,551 | 0.92% | $10,870 | 43 |
| 27 | South Dakota | 11.01% | $7,656 | 2.31% | $6,597 | 26 |
| 28 | Rhode Island | 11.24% | $7,816 | 4.45% | $8,842 | 44 |
| 29 | Arkansas | 11.30% | $7,852 | 4.93% | $5,712 | 18 |
| 30 | Missouri | 11.30% | $7,855 | 4.97% | $6,578 | 17 |
| 31 | Minnesota | 11.31% | $7,859 | 5.03% | $8,511 | 30 |
| 32 | Oklahoma | 11.51% | $8,002 | 6.94% | $6,154 | 23 |
| 33 | Maryland | 11.52% | $8,006 | 6.99% | $10,729 | 45 |
| 34 | Maine | 11.62% | $8,075 | 7.91% | $7,289 | 39 |
| 35 | Indiana | 11.76% | $8,173 | 9.23% | $6,851 | 28 |
| 36 | Vermont | 11.77% | $8,183 | 9.36% | $8,060 | 42 |
| 37 | Mississippi | 11.93% | $8,290 | 10.79% | $5,834 | 20 |
| 38 | Washington | 11.97% | $8,323 | 11.22% | $10,915 | 40 |
| 39 | Michigan | 12.15% | $8,449 | 12.91% | $6,965 | 27 |
| 40 | Kentucky | 12.50% | $8,687 | 16.09% | $6,698 | 29 |
| 41 | Texas | 12.73% | $8,846 | 18.21% | $8,006 | 34 |
| 42 | Wisconsin | 12.95% | $9,004 | 20.32% | $8,089 | 35 |
| 43 | New Jersey | 12.98% | $9,023 | 20.58% | $12,652 | 48 |
| 44 | Nebraska | 13.15% | $9,142 | 22.17% | $7,786 | 37 |
| 45 | Ohio | 13.20% | $9,178 | 22.66% | $7,306 | 33 |
| 46 | Iowa | 13.31% | $9,248 | 23.60% | $7,645 | 36 |
| 47 | Kansas | 13.57% | $9,433 | 26.06% | $7,919 | 38 |
| 48 | Pennsylvania | 13.92% | $9,675 | 29.30% | $8,820 | 41 |
| 49 | New York | 14.23% | $9,894 | 32.22% | $12,047 | 49 |
| 50 | Connecticut | 14.80% | $10,287 | 37.47% | $12,120 | 51 |
| 51 | Illinois | 15.05% | $10,463 | 39.83% | $9,987 | 47 |
Why would taxes explain the exodus when middle-class Californians got a huge tax rebate last year and California hasn't increased taxes on the middle class in more than a decade? Every person I've heard of leaving California cited either distaste for liberalism, cheaper property elsewhere, or more flexibility due to work from home.
You lie about this topic over and over, you know literally nothing about anything you talk about and you're incapable of admitting you're wrong.
wait a second, i was just kidding. this actually happened? desantis actually brought a san francisco shyt map to the debate? 
AquaCityBoy
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breh, you're one of the least objective, worst democrat shills on the board. you couldn't physically fix your mouth to criticize newsom from the right if i paid you a million dollars
Secure Da Bag
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no, it isn't. because you can't juelz your way out of the middle class fleeing california's awful taxes
You went from
what's a pro-dem response?
to
what about shyt on the street?
to
middle class fleeing taxes?
All on the same question. You be kicking the shyt out of the goalposts.
my god
Secure Da Bag
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He didn't do that good. But he did much better than expected in hostile territory.
He walked away unscathed with an extra 100.
