New York Times: New Harvard study shows police kill white and black suspects at the exact same rates

[5n0man]

Liberals really don't like having their preferred narratives destroyed by facts...............

Since when do liberals give a fukk about black people?



You mean the same liberals that push that intersectionality bullshyt? The same liberals that act like our struggle is the same as white women struggles?
The same liberals that say we should get over slavery?

 

[5n0man]

@Spanky 6000 I don't want a dap nikka, I want you to explain how 400 years and counting of racism and mistreatment of black americans is a liberal talking point.

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

All you are doing is proving our case. Racial bias exists in policing which leads to higher black and minority arrests rates. The number of black arrests is much higher as a percentage of the population compared to whites because of the inherent bias that targets, stops and arrests black people. That is why we should use the population percentage and not the percentage of those arrested.

And even if we were to use the number of arrested as the universe, blacks are still killed by police at higher numbers.

I get what you mean but is it all racial bias?

The policing is more concentrated in the areas Black people tend to live in..but it could be argued their presence was increased in those areas by the politicians in response to crime and drug activity.
If you have more officers in Black neighborhoods youll get more black arrests..not because of the inherent racism of the police but sheer mathematical odds.

The error in the approach of using raw census data is that it tends to skew the results and make them meaningless..its like you want to know the odds of being killed by a shark in the gulf of mexico..you tally the data from the gulf of mexico only

You can add the worldwide numbers from australia and brazil to create a shocking political statement that makes you feel better....but then your conclusion become meaningless to everyone especially the guy in Galveston TX wondering if the water is safe or not.



You want to say cops are killing people x at rates higher than y ....you must study the people who come into contact with the cops...

adding people who dont come into contact with cops is meaningless because there is no way the cops can harm them..is there?

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

trying to extrapolate a national angle when you only have 3 states accounted for and only a few cities and counties in those respective states.
Thats a poor study

@Aelyas en passant your argument is focused on using only blacks folks that interacted with the police versus the number of blacks folks in the country, but how what about the exclusion of cop interaction data from other states affecting the final conclusion? Unless you believe that Florida, LA, Dallas/Houston Texas is a good sample space for such a study

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

@Aelyas en passant your argument is focused on using only blacks folks that interacted with the police versus the number of blacks folks in the country, but how what about the exclusion of cop interaction data from other states affecting the final conclusion? Unless you believe that Florida, LA, Dallas/Houston Texas is a good sample space for such a study

No my method used ALL folks who had interactions with police....white black whatever.....the post is only one page away bruh

as opposed to using census numbers and i did some quick math ..feel free to check it out ..no one has debunked it yet...and it confirms this harvard study that used a much smaller sample as you rightly point out but were obviously more though

He and student researchers spent about 3,000 hours assembling detailed data from police reports in Houston; Austin, Tex.; Dallas; Los Angeles; Orlando, Fla.; Jacksonville, Fla.; and four other counties in Florida.

They examined 1,332 shootings between 2000 and 2015, coding police narratives to answer questions such as: How old was the suspect? How many police officers were at the scene? Were they mostly white? Was the officer at the scene for a robbery, violent activity, a traffic stop or something else? Was it nighttime? Did the officer shoot after being attacked or before a possible attack? One goal was to figure out whether police officers were quicker to fire at black suspects.

But that is the beauty of statistics..as long as you take an honest sample your results should still be accurate ...even if you take a thin slice of the pie you should end up with the same taste..

right

 

[Nomad1]

Another left wing, liberal narrative getting exposed as a lie.................

Blacks are 13 percent of the American population, so this is very scary and helps the "left wing narrative"

And negged cac

 

[MalikX]

Technically yes..he was menacing people with a realistic looking prop gun...which IS a crime..his death was a horrible thing but lets be completely honest here

Yea...let's be completely honest. White guy. REAL GUN. Park full of kids. Waving his gun at police. Pointing his gun at them multiple times. Stand off with cops for a few hours. Lived to talk about it

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Technically yes..he was menacing people with a realistic looking prop gun...which IS a crime..his death was a horrible thing but lets be completely honest here

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

Yea...let's be completely honest. White guy. REAL GUN. Park full of kids. Waving his gun at police. Pointing his gun at them multiple times. Stand off with cops for a few hours. Lived to talk about it

They shot him too once he pointed that gun didnt they...hes lucky to be in the ER instead of the morgue so whats your point...

so far all i see is if you pick up a gun and point it at someone the cops WILL shoot you...whatever color you are.

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

Nope ...being raised by women makes you value feelings over facts...but in a mans world facts matter

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Nope ...being raised by women makes you value feelings over facts...but in a mans world facts matter

He wasnt menacing anyone. Stop it

 

[N711oir]

I witness first hand on daily basis diference in routine traffic stops between b/w

You drive by and see Caucasians out the car talking and chilling

Cops on passenger side leaning in relaxed chilling

On more than one occasion

If you have ten "white" people and a cop shot five/ because those five charged the cop and tried to harm him

And you have ten true native Americans " black" ppl and a cop harassed and shot five innocent unarmed natives

The rate is still the same
The reasons however are different

And those individuals navigate and move through this country different because of those scenarios

 

[MalikX]

They shot him too once he pointed that gun didnt they...hes lucky to be in the ER instead of the morgue so whats your point...

so far all i see is if you pick up a gun and point it at someone the cops WILL shoot you...whatever color you are.

You're such a fakkit man.

After all that provocation, he was shot in the knee cap.

You're defending a cop murdering a 12 year old kid whereas this dufus (a white man) waved his gun at 10 cops and all he got was a flesh wound on his leg.

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

He wasnt menacing anyone. Stop it

Bruh look at the video again, they blurred out the person to protect their identity for obvious reasons...

DISCLAIMER for the slow nikkas...NO Im not saying he should have died NO im not defending the actions of the Cleveland PD....

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

You're such a fakkit man.

After all that provocation, he was shot in the knee cap.

You're defending a cop murdering a 12 year old kid whereas this dufus (a white man) waved his gun at 10 cops and all he got was a flesh wound on his leg.

he was shot in the stomach ...i paused the video right at that point so we can analyse your lie together...

He could just as easily have died if that bullet hit his liver or other vital organ

Why u lying...what does it get you ?