NBA To Announcement Details Of In-Season Tournament

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They testing the market with this right now but I bet y’all that they’re hoping this takes off and they will make it part of the all star break.

The biggest test is to see if it brings international fans in more, they don’t care about American viewers they have that already (folks be watching Summer League games so the NBA is not worried about this being watched) but those other countries LOVE tournaments and they’re probably hoping this because huge for them there which helps them more with expansion they want there.

Either way it’s going to be fun watching what happens with this moving forward.

This (minus ‘this will be exciting’ :scust:)

I tried to talk sports on white/International spaces like Reddit or realgm but had to kill that asap. Bc they practically look down on American hoops. They constantly compare it to soccer. They think soccer is like some intellectually superior game :scust: That’s the demographic Silver keeps catering to
 

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But then you'll have a team that finished better missing the playoffs because there will only be 7 seeds left since the in-season tournament winner took one.

Plus that'll just defeat the purpose of the play-in tournament. Unless the NBA expands the playoff seeding from 8 to either 9 or 10 seeds which is a whole nother conversation.
fukk them teams

The less spots means games matter even more. So go ahead and rest Embid when u only got a .5 lead going in the play in.
 

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This starts tonight, they're doing the group play phase, but let me get this straight.
If you WIN and advance to the knockout round, you end up playing tougher teams in games that count towards your regular season record?
So let's say the Knicks go all out, advance to the knockout round, then get seeded against the nuggets, the bucks, the celtics, whatever.
They gotta play extra games against the best teams in the league, end up going 0-2 in some games that actually count towards their overall record, and could end up in the play-in bracket by 1 game because they succeeded in the in-season tournament?
Whereas they could just throw a game or 2 in the group play phase and end up in the "losers bracket" and actually lighten the load pause of their regular season schedule by playing shytty teams?
And the ultimate prize is really just playing an extra game, because its not like you get a high seed or a draft pick or anything, you just get an extra game to blow out your achilles in a league where guys already sit on sundays just cause?
Lol, this shyt should be called the load management invitational, because it seems like they somehow managed to throw some shyt together THAT LITERALLY INCENTIVIZES LOSING AND RESTING MORE THAN IT ALREADY IS.
 
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This starts tonight, they're doing the group play phase, but let me get this straight.
If you WIN and advance to the knockout round, you end up playing tougher teams in games that count towards your regular season record?
So let's say the Knicks go all out, advance to the knockout round, then get seeded against the nuggets, the bucks, the celtics, whatever.
They gotta play extra games against the best teams in the league, end up going 0-2 in some games that actually count towards their overall record, and could end up in the play-in bracket by 1 game because they succeeded in the in-season tournament?
Whereas they could just throw a game or 2 in the group play phase and end up in the "losers bracket" and actually lighten the load pause of their regular season schedule by playing shytty teams?
And the ultimate prize is really just playing an extra game, because its not like you get a high seed or a draft pick or anything, you just get an extra game to blow out your achilles in a league where guys already sit on sundays just cause?
Lol, this shyt should be called the load management invitational, because it seems like they somehow managed to throw some shyt together THAT LITERALLY INCENTIVIZES LOSING AND RESTING MORE THAN IT ALREADY IS.
Yeah Silver is a fukking idiot. Unless the reward money is a couple of million for each player, why try?
 

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That Europe shyt doesn't work in the NBA because everybody is already in. And they're all going to play each other regardless. Sometimes a teams only opportunity to play another team is through meeting in whatever cup. There's no charge to qualify. Or it isn't prestigious league winners playing each other. There's no epic story in making it in or even winning. There's no risk of missing it if you don't play well. Qualifying for this cup isn't a goal.

The basketball games are good hopefully but they're missing all the atmosphere and circumstance that they're trying to manufacture.
 

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Yeah Silver is a fukking idiot. Unless the reward money is a couple of million for each player, why try?
But lets say they make it a billion dollars per player.
Ok.
How does that drive fan engagement?
Why do I care if these guys get filthy rich?
They already make more money than any of us will see in 10 lifetimes.
Now theyre supposed to get MORE money for playing regular season games that count for absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things?
It's like... let me put this in NFL terms for why that league would NEVER do this shyt.

Let's start by imagining a team like the Steelers. Currently at 5-3 halfway through the season, with middling qb play. If they had two options in front of them for their next, lets say 4 regular season games:
Play 2 group play games, win them both, and enter a knockout tournament where they'll be seeded against the chiefs, dolphins and eagles of the league, or go 1-1 in the group play game and fall into the "consolation" bracket where they will get 2 regular season games against the titans, bears and panthers of the league.
Such a tournament incentivizes middle of the road performances in the group play phase, to actually AVOID the knockout phase.
That's easy to imagine on a micro scale, because the NFL has a smaller sample size of games.
But give it time, and that same understanding will seap into league circles, once they do the math on the cost/benefit to the tournament as it pertains to the goal of winning a championship. Because ultimately, fan engagement is highest when teams are winning, so once the reddits of the world get crunching the numbers and finding the "optimal" path through the regular season, this tournament is going to devolve into "avoiding the knockout bracket at all costs."

This might literally be, all things considered, the worst logistical proposal I have ever seen in a professional sporting league.

How this idea made it through so many rounds of approvals and green lights is beyond me.

It is mathematically devaluing their regular season. I don't care about "lets give it a chance," "it might be interesting", etc. Once the marketing push dies down and people look at this shyt objectively, theyll see they have created a formula that--once again, like tanking--incentivizes LOSING BASKETBALL GAMES and exacerbates load management conditions.

Insane. Absolutely insane they're doing this.
 
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