Modern humans have existed for 300,000 years but Abrahamic religions are only 3500 years old

[The Devil's Advocate]

I understand that ancient societies were more complex than the avg person understands. What I’m saying is that you don’t go from no phone for 100s of thousands of years and no cars for the same amount of time to iPhones and Lambos within the last 200 years. Something caused that boom (that coincidentally happened after they touched down in America) that is not being told.

Just to build an rectangular Amazon warehouse on flat land takes a lot of manpower and machinery. Yet somehow with horse and carriage and the tools of hammer and chisel they could build this?

I could keep going to. And it ain’t like they slapped something together and hoped it worked. The structures are still strongly standing until this day. That architecture is proof that they had better tech than we are being led to believe. The story you (if not you than they) believe of there being limited tech for hundreds of thousands of years until the last two centuries is illogical yet they/you won’t question that..

I earlier clarified that I meant cars/phones/tablets/tvs etc..

This thread says humans were here for 300,000 years and did not have any of those things. Then when they “find” America, hundred years later the first drafts of these things come out and 100 years later they’ve been “mastered” (using that word loosely)…

That’s not how progress works. Something happened after they “found” America that led to these improvements and the story they/you tell me isn’t logical….

Yea they found something... Engines, gas and electricity

They didn't have any lost tech.. You can google exactly how they made those castles and pyramids and shyt a lot older than either one that still stands today... Because a lot of it is still in use today.

But once they found a way for machines to run on gas and electricity, that's where you get the big boom of innovation...

 

[Genos]

I don’t need to my guy. They found technology here in America when they came. It’s obvious. The story you believe is illogical.

To do the foundation do a rectangular building requires machinery. Dump trucks, excavators, etc…Then the talk of moving materials with 18 wheelers. Let’s not talk about cranes to lift up walls etc… mechanical lifts that help workers work on roofs. Yet with hammer and chisel they built this:

The story ain’t adding up(ie it’s illogical)


We’re adults here right? Use your words to make a point by pointing out what exactly happens in nature that mimics the “growth” that just so coincidentally happened after they landed in America…

Wait why do you need modern technology to build something that elaborate. You said that as if it was fact because we use technology today. Learn the history of mathematics and you will see its just math.

Plus you realize without modern intervention this building would've fell right? Today's buildings are much sturdier and longer lasting due to modern building techniques. People didn't "just" get smart today, it's just we are taking the advantage of exponential growth that has been happening for thousands of years.

Logarithmic growth is basically a fundamental principle. Animal populations, cell division, sound waves, acidic properties, etc.

 

[Everythingg]

It took 3000 workers and 250 engineers 15 months of planning and 40 months of construction? Ok, so?

The great pyramid is assumed to have used 20000 workers and 20 years to complete? Again, so?

“Assumed”

They have no idea how it was built, how would they know how long it took?

The point? Your belief is illogical. Humans didn’t all of a sudden get smarter the last 300 years to where they could ignite the boom that we saw. And I’d go as far as saying people today are less in tune with the world around them than the ancients were. And thats because there are people hiding tech/history from the masses and feeding you crumbs.

Hundreds of years before that boom cacs was in Europe bathing in the same water they used the restroom in. Fast forward and now they’re coming up with cars/planes/iPhones/tvs/radios? After 100 thousands years before of nothing to that sort? Yea, it’s illogical. Maybe you should take that log out of your own eye before running to the Bible to point out things you say aren’t logical

 

[BaldingSoHard]

Irrelevant

You’re (they if not you)the ones that say the world is hundreds of thousands of years old but can’t explain how no progress was made (let’s say when it comes travel) until the last 200 years. So hundreds of thousands of years go by and we’re still walking using horse and buggy. They arrive in America (on horse and buggy) and 100 years later we have cars and 100 years after that lambos. That’s not logical my guy but you won’t question it at all…

Ignore history class, brehs.
Don't know about the Industrial Revolution brehs.

 

[Maximus Rex]

“Assumed”

They have no idea how it was built, how would they know how long it took?

The point? Your belief is illogical. Humans didn’t all of a sudden get smarter the last 300 years to where they could ignite the boom that we saw. And I’d go as far as saying people today are less in tune with the world around them than the ancients were. And thats because there are people hiding tech/history from the masses and feeding you crumbs.

Hundreds of years before that boom cacs was in Europe bathing in the same water they used the restroom in. Fast forward and now they’re coming up with cars/planes/iPhones/tvs/radios? After 100 thousands years before of nothing to that sort? Yea, it’s illogical. Maybe you should take that log out of your own eye before running to the Bible to point out things you say aren’t logical

The ancients? Hiding tech?

AI is the big thing now, here is a summary of the history of it Artificial neural network - Wikipedia

It was bult upon the knowledge of people before it like all technology was, you dudes want to believe we are living in some world where aliens, demons, angels, are supplying us with information

 

[MMS]

while these are marvels they are made using vastly different materials

hauling the limestone slabs that are easilly over 10 tons each isnt something companies could work with today let alone what was used back then

 

[Everythingg]

Wait why do you need modern technology to build something that elaborate. You said that as if it was fact because we use technology today. Learn the history of mathematics and you will see its just math.

Plus you realize without modern intervention this building would've fell right? Today's buildings are much sturdier and longer lasting due to modern building techniques. People didn't "just" get smart today, it's just we are taking the advantage of exponential growth that has been happening for thousands of years.

Logarithmic growth is basically a fundamental principle. Animal populations, cell division, sound waves, acidic properties, etc.

Bruh laying the foundation to a rectangular building on a flat land today takes a great amount of manpower/machinery. It can take weeks to months of moving/repositioning dirt to get it right and that’s with excavators and dump trucks and machines that help compact loose dirt for a sturdier foundation.

Imagine back in the day them going up mountains and and building elaborate castles? Transporting materials by horse and carriage? Hammer and chisel as tools? Having to build scaffolds all the way up to the top of the castle to finish them? Not even mentioning the interior. And then still standing strong hundreds of years later? It would take too much effort to do this for one, yet there are elaborate structures are all over the world…It’s not logical. For an American example look up all the state capitol buildings…

And you said nature mimics the exponential growth we saw in technology. Explain that out…

Yea they found something... Engines, gas and electricity

They didn't have any lost tech.. You can google exactly how they made those castles and pyramids and shyt a lot older than either one that still stands today... Because a lot of it is still in use today.

But once they found a way for machines to run on gas and electricity, that's where you get the big boom of innovation...

Yea as in those things existed before cacs supposedly invented them.

300,000 years and no engines. They come to America and within 100 years they have them. And that’s in the midst of fighting Indians/the British and enslaving blacks… Sorry but that’s not how growth works…

 

[ThatTruth777]

Shhhh!

What you doing thinking, you gon get in trouble!

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

I think it’s human nature to worship a higher power or acknowledge a creator. I think people were doing this from the beginning or early on. I think the earliest religions worshiped nature, shyt like the sun and shyt. But I don’t study this shyt so I’m not sure. I don’t know if religion is natural, but I believe spirituality and spiritual connection is.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Bruh laying the foundation to a rectangular building on a flat land today takes a great amount of manpower/machinery. It can take weeks to months of moving/repositioning dirt to get it right and that’s with excavators and dump trucks and machines that help compact loose dirt for a sturdier foundation.

Imagine back in the day them going up mountains and and building elaborate castles? Transporting materials by horse and carriage? Hammer and chisel as tools? Having to build scaffolds all the way up to the top of the castle to finish them? Not even mentioning the interior. And then still standing strong hundreds of years later? It would take too much effort to do this for one, yet there are elaborate structures are all over the world…It’s not logical. For an American example look up all the state capitol buildings…

And you said nature mimics the exponential growth we saw in technology. Explain that out…


Yea as in those things existed before cacs supposedly invented them.

300,000 years and no engines. They come to America and within 100 years they have them. And that’s in the midst of fighting Indians/the British and enslaving blacks… Sorry but that’s not how growth works…

Are yall this stupid, humans weren't just living in caves then all of a sudden cars just appeared out of nowhere

Industrial Revolution - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[EndDomination]

Technology has existed for longer than 200 years

Humans were dumb for the mass majority of their history

Until the mass consumption of knowledge was able to easily be passed from one another, s/o Gutenberg, funny the first thing he printed was the bible

Printing press - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Humans were not "dumb" for the majority of history.

Humans have, retained the same intelligence for the vast majority of our existence. However, growth in technology was not as uniform, or for the purpose of extracting value from consumers - until rather recently.

Societies across the ancient world utilized technological advancements in ways that almost uniformly produced better outcomes for their society, like the complex agricultural developments of what is now North and South America - or throughout the pre-colonial West African regions.

As for Abrahamic religions - Judaism likely came out of ancient Canaanite religions, which are themselves several millennia old and retain elements of even earlier religious traditions.

 

[Splash]

I was there
AMA

 

[Maximus Rex]

Humans were not "dumb" for the majority of history.

Humans have, retained the same intelligence for the vast majority of our existence. However, growth in technology was not as uniform, or for the purpose of extracting value from consumers - until rather recently.

Societies across the ancient world utilized technological advancements in ways that almost uniformly produced better outcomes for their society, like the complex agricultural developments of what is now North and South America - or throughout the pre-colonial West African regions.

As for Abrahamic religions - Judaism likely came out of ancient Canaanite religions, which are themselves several millennia old and retain elements of even earlier religious traditions.

Humans didn't have written language for a hundred thousand years which is why much of our history is undocumented

You are talking about humans when we went from being hunter-gathers to living in agricultural communities. a very small part of our recent history.

Where is this history before this story of a bullshyt Flood, Adam & Eve, and an apple, snake and tree? Because that obviously didn't happen

 

[Everythingg]

Ignore history class, brehs.
Don't know about the Industrial Revolution brehs.

400 out of 300,000 is .13333333 percent.

So the most growth humanity has ever seen has happened in .1333333 percent of all humanity’s existence? That’s what you call logic?

The ancients? Hiding tech?

AI is the big thing now, here is a summary of the history of it Artificial neural network - Wikipedia

It was bult upon the knowledge of people before it like all technology was, you dudes want to believe we are living in some world where aliens, demons, angels, are supplying us with information

I understand the present builds off the past. Im saying that the world was more advanced in the past and once cacs touched down in America they saw that. Here’s a newspaper article:

RAFTSMAN Journal Jan 6 1858
Strange as it may appear, America ABOUNTS IN ANTIQUITIES, so extensive, so beautiful and majestic, as to rival those of THEBES OR NINEVEH. Ruins of ANCIENT CITIES, of IMMENSE extent, fortifications, MOUNDS AND PYRAMIDS, TEMPLES WITH WALLS, built of hewn stone SHOWING A REFINED TASTE IN ARCHITECTURE and adorned with human figures, BEAUTIFULLY execute.... remains of ANCIENT PALACES, with beautiful specimins of scupture and painting, with many other marks of ANCIENT GREATNESS, prove to us that THIS IS NOT A NEW WORLD, but that of a powerful empire existed at a very remote period of time, teeming with a population highliy skilled in arts, and in a STATE OF CIVILIZATION FAR BEYOND ANYTHING WE HAVE BEEN LED TO CONCEIVE OF THE ABORIGINES"

Your history class told you this?

The story you’re given is illogical. Mormons arrived in Salt Lake City in 1847 and 60 years later here’s the city “they built”

Including the “Salt Lake temple”

That’s not logical to believe that a group that started out as 140 men could have a full fledged city with an elaborate temple built within 60 years. Using horse and buggy that is. That’s also at the same time they had to gather food, build their own shelters, raise families and the wars/slavery that was going on.

Again before running to point out the lack of logic in other peoples beliefs you should start with your own first?

 

[BaldingSoHard]

400 out of 300,000 is .13333333 percent.

So the most growth humanity has ever seen has happened in .1333333 percent of all humanity’s existence? That’s what you call logic?

I'm guessing you are unfamiliar with the concept of exponential growth.