Modern humans have existed for 300,000 years but Abrahamic religions are only 3500 years old

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It's these people who don't understand science and can't solve basic math problems. I've been on some YouTube channels where I have witnessed this.

Check this one, it's time stamped at 2:40:00. This one doesn't understand that 100 pound feathers and 100 pound peanuts is the same weight.





He claimed San Franco doesn't exist? Wow, that's insane. lol

Anyway, I did some research into Maya and Inca archeology.

Here are some great sources.

Latin American studies - Mayas.



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The Chama Vase” from Guatemala, ca. 700 CE

This Maya polychrome ceramic ware from Chama, Guatemala was made around the 8th century CE. This pot is decorated with pictoral designs painted in several tints of red-orange and sepia on cream slip, red and black lines with typical Chama chevron band at top and bottom. Seven human figures in ceremony are accompanied by two to four glyphs.

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Watercolor Roll-out of the Chama Vase by Mary Louise Baker




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Cylindrical vessel with ball game scene, c. 682-701 C.E., Late Classic, Maya, ceramic, 20.48 cm high (Dallas Museum of Art)(zoomable image here)



"In Maya mythology, the Hero Twins appeared to have served many functions. Through time, and surely influenced by geography, they evolved the various aspects of their personas. They seem to have accumulated many roles as Maya civilization became more complex. In this paper, I will explore a succession of changes in behavior and role."

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The Twins on K1254 (Figure 6) also wear the headband and the G3 "cruller". One sits facing the toad, who acts as messenger, probably bringing a message from the Lords of The Otherworld to the Twins to come and play ball with them.

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The figures on another vase K7821 (Figure 7) help to corroborate this identification. In the first panel the Twin kneels before Itzamna; in the second panel, the Twin kneels before Itzamna’s avatar, Itzam Ye. The text indicates this composite character at glyph D1, and the names of the Twins appear at glyphs D2 and C3. Both kneeling figures have the same olla-like mouth, as well as headbands, upswept hairdos, and yokes.


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There is precedence for this kind of depiction in Maya vase painting. The dancer on a vase from the Ik site K1452 (Figure 16), is shown in three separate aspects of his ceremonial bloodletting, twirling dance. These are not three separate individuals, but a sequential presentation of three actions of the ceremony performed by the same person.

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A number of vessels have depictions of Jaguar-in-flames and Man-in-flames, obviously substituting for each other. On K3831 he wears his headband and appears in flames; on K3924 (Figure 17), it is the Jaguar-in-flames and Mok Chi’ as beekeeper, who appear together. On K5112, (Figure 18), it is Mok Chi’ marked with kimi glyphs and his head totally severed who appears in conjunction with the headbanded Man-in-flames. (The companion to Mok Chi’ on vase K2284 is also the Waterlily Jaguar.) (Figure 12).




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Title: Vessel, Palace Scene
Date: 7th–8th century
Geography: Mexico, Mesoamerica, Yucatan
Culture: Maya
Medium: Ceramic
Dimensions: Height: 6 5/8in. (16.8cm)
Diameter: 4 5/16in. (11cm)
Classification: Ceramics-Containers
Credit Line: The Michael C. Rockefeller Memorial Collection, Purchase, Nelson A. Rockefeller Gift, 1967
Accession Number: 1978.412.202



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Cylindrical vessel with sacrificial scene, c.600-850 AD (ceramic and pigments).



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The Madrid codex or codex tro cortesianus, deals with horoscope and astrological tables, reports in Spain by Hernan Cortes (1485-1547). Painted miniatures



Mayan_Mayan_-_Mayan_warrior_Polychrome_ceramic_Mayan_art_7th_National_Museum_of_Archaeology_an_-_%28MeisterDrucke-996420%29.jpg


Mayan warrior. Polychrome ceramic, Mayan art, 7th. National Museum of Archaeology and Ethnology of Tikal (Guatemala).



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A ballgame scene painted on a cylindrical, ceramic vessel that dates to between A.D. 682 and 701. (Image credit: Courtesy of the Dallas Museum of Art)





Cylindrical vessel decorated with date glyphs and a Mayan ball player wearing black body paint and heavy padding for the competition, The great yoke protecting the ball players vital organs is clearly visible. Mexico. Maya. late Classic period, c 500 900. Campeche (probably).




Cylindrical vase from the tomb of Jasaw Chan K'awiil, Tikal, Guatemala. Detail. Mayan civilization, 8th century AD.

I was fascinated back when I learned that Mayan people are still around today. Its like if there were still ancient Egyptians around speaking their language.

The Mayans even look like the people in their ancient paintings

 

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I was fascinated back when I learned that Mayan people are still around today. Its like if there were still ancient Egyptians around speaking their language.

The Mayans even look like the people in their ancient paintings

I have been to the Amazon, and yeah Amerindian populations have maintained to speak their old languages. This is what makes these ABOS doctrine claims so remarkable. Because they claim to know nothing and have remained nothing. Yet, we do see remnants from African languages and other cultural elements etc in Black American culture.

There are people in Egypt who still know the ancient language. These people are in Upper Egypt. I’ve been to Egypt as well. I know who is who over there. The dynamic basically would be the same as Spanish descendant claiming to be the still original Mayans.

Physical anthropology explains that these upper Egyptians (and these from Siwa) are closest to the ancient Egyptians. And that is also what you will see on the murals all over Egypt.
 
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It's these people who don't understand science and can't solve basic math problems. I've been on some YouTube channels where I have witnessed this.

Check this one, it's time stamped at 2:40:00. This one doesn't understand that 100 pound feathers and 100 pound peanuts is the same weight.




He claimed San Francisco doesn't exist? Wow, that's insane. lol

Anyway, I did some research into Maya and Inca archeology.

Here are some great sources.

Latin American studies - Mayas.



3614369394_25957a89d9.jpg

The Chama Vase” from Guatemala, ca. 700 CE

This Maya polychrome ceramic ware from Chama, Guatemala was made around the 8th century CE. This pot is decorated with pictoral designs painted in several tints of red-orange and sepia on cream slip, red and black lines with typical Chama chevron band at top and bottom. Seven human figures in ceremony are accompanied by two to four glyphs.

7551648276_0d04bf6e17.jpg

Watercolor Roll-out of the Chama Vase by Mary Louise Baker




maya-vessel.jpg


Cylindrical vessel with ball game scene, c. 682-701 C.E., Late Classic, Maya, ceramic, 20.48 cm high (Dallas Museum of Art)(zoomable image here)



"In Maya mythology, the Hero Twins appeared to have served many functions. Through time, and surely influenced by geography, they evolved the various aspects of their personas. They seem to have accumulated many roles as Maya civilization became more complex. In this paper, I will explore a succession of changes in behavior and role."

fig6.jpg


The Twins on K1254 (Figure 6) also wear the headband and the G3 "cruller". One sits facing the toad, who acts as messenger, probably bringing a message from the Lords of The Otherworld to the Twins to come and play ball with them.

fig7.jpg


The figures on another vase K7821 (Figure 7) help to corroborate this identification. In the first panel the Twin kneels before Itzamna; in the second panel, the Twin kneels before Itzamna’s avatar, Itzam Ye. The text indicates this composite character at glyph D1, and the names of the Twins appear at glyphs D2 and C3. Both kneeling figures have the same olla-like mouth, as well as headbands, upswept hairdos, and yokes.


fig16.jpg


There is precedence for this kind of depiction in Maya vase painting. The dancer on a vase from the Ik site K1452 (Figure 16), is shown in three separate aspects of his ceremonial bloodletting, twirling dance. These are not three separate individuals, but a sequential presentation of three actions of the ceremony performed by the same person.

fig18.jpg


A number of vessels have depictions of Jaguar-in-flames and Man-in-flames, obviously substituting for each other. On K3831 he wears his headband and appears in flames; on K3924 (Figure 17), it is the Jaguar-in-flames and Mok Chi’ as beekeeper, who appear together. On K5112, (Figure 18), it is Mok Chi’ marked with kimi glyphs and his head totally severed who appears in conjunction with the headbanded Man-in-flames. (The companion to Mok Chi’ on vase K2284 is also the Waterlily Jaguar.) (Figure 12).




main-image


Title: Vessel, Palace Scene
Date: 7th–8th century
Geography: Mexico, Mesoamerica, Yucatan
Culture: Maya
Medium: Ceramic
Dimensions: Height: 6 5/8in. (16.8cm)
Diameter: 4 5/16in. (11cm)
Classification: Ceramics-Containers
Credit Line: The Michael C. Rockefeller Memorial Collection, Purchase, Nelson A. Rockefeller Gift, 1967
Accession Number: 1978.412.202



Mayan_Mayan_-_Cylindrical_vessel_with_sacrificial_scene_c600850_AD_%28ceramic_and_pigments%29_-_%28MeisterDrucke-926797%29.jpg



Cylindrical vessel with sacrificial scene, c.600-850 AD (ceramic and pigments).



Mayan_Mayan_-_The_Madrid_codex_or_codex_tro_cortesianus_deals_with_horoscope_and_astrological_-_%28MeisterDrucke-951004%29.jpg


The Madrid codex or codex tro cortesianus, deals with horoscope and astrological tables, reports in Spain by Hernan Cortes (1485-1547). Painted miniatures



Mayan_Mayan_-_Mayan_warrior_Polychrome_ceramic_Mayan_art_7th_National_Museum_of_Archaeology_an_-_%28MeisterDrucke-996420%29.jpg


Mayan warrior. Polychrome ceramic, Mayan art, 7th. National Museum of Archaeology and Ethnology of Tikal (Guatemala).



ballplayer-rollout.jpg


A ballgame scene painted on a cylindrical, ceramic vessel that dates to between A.D. 682 and 701. (Image credit: Courtesy of the Dallas Museum of Art)



cylindrical-vessel-decorated-with-date-glyphs-and-a-mayan-ball-player-wearing-black-body-paint.jpg


Cylindrical vessel decorated with date glyphs and a Mayan ball player wearing black body paint and heavy padding for the competition, The great yoke protecting the ball players vital organs is clearly visible. Mexico. Maya. late Classic period, c 500 900. Campeche (probably).


cylindrical-vase-from-the-tomb-of-jasaw-chan-kawiil-tikal-guatemala-detail-mayan-civilization.jpg


Cylindrical vase from the tomb of Jasaw Chan K'awiil, Tikal, Guatemala. Detail. Mayan civilization, 8th century AD.

Just listened to some of the YouTube. shyt went from hilarious to mind numbingly stupid. These people are threats to progress lol.
 

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Just listened to some of the YouTube. shyt went from hilarious to mind numbingly stupid. These people are threats to progress lol.
I wonder if it’s the people hiding the truth or the ones seeking it out that are the biggest “threats to progress”?
:jbhmm:
 

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Just listened to some of the YouTube. shyt went from hilarious to mind numbingly stupid. These people are threats to progress lol.
The amount of anti-intellectualism I’ve heard is indeed a danger to the progress we need to make.









Here Rah Born was in a debate with a Tribe Called Intenet-Indians / ABOS. He gave several linguistic and cultural anthropological sources, based on peer reviewed anthropological comparative analysis.

The (one sided) debate (evidence is overwhelming):




When these realities are being brought up, they avoid it at all costs.

'Tropically adapted groups also have relatively longer distal limb elements (tibia and radius, as compared to femur and humerus) than groups in colder climates."
(Matt Cartmill, Fred H. Smith - 2011)

“Thirteen of the 18 haplogroups previously observed in African populations were observed in the African American populations: L1a, L1b, L1c, L2a, L2b, L2c, L3b, L3d, L3e1, L3e2, L3e3, L3e4, and L3f”
(Derek C. Johnson et al., Mitochondrial DNA. 2015 Jun; 26(3): 445–451. , Mitochondrial DNA diversity in the African American population)

“In this context, the Dominican Republic is in line with the observations from other Caribbean and non-Caribbean American regions. All the mtDNA African lineages account for 61% of the maternal haplogroups, with the most frequent mtDNA lineages being the sub-Saharan L1c, L2a, L3b, and L3d, all reaching frequencies higher than 10%.”
(Eugenia D’Atanasio et al.)


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“SCD occurs among about 1 out of every 365 Black or African-American births. SCD occurs among about 1 out of every 16,300 Hispanic-American births. About 1 in 13 Black or African-American babies is born with sickle cell trait (SCT)”.
(Source: CDC)

"Earlier studies showed that the prevalence of maxillary midline diastema was greater in African populations than among Caucasians or Asian [21]. Another research reported that a maxillary midline diastema (MMD) occurrence among African Americans is more"
(Kyle Cousineau, Tanya Al Talib, Neamat Abubakr Hassan. Retrospective Evaluation of the Prevalence of Diastema among an Adult Population. Open Journal of Stomatology Vol.12 No.6, June 2022)

"According to the study, having mainly African genetic ancestry can reduce a person's chances of finding a donor by up to 60%, and having African copies of HLA genes, which must be compatible with the donor's to make a transplant possible, can reduce them by 75%."
[..]
According to Meyer, the team cannot yet answer the question regarding the degree to which admixture and the percentage of African ancestry hinder a match. "These two things are a little different. What we know is that on average people with African HLA genes tend to have more difficulty than people with European ancestry," he said. "It remains to be seen if there are combinations of European and African chromosomes that can also reduce the probability of a match.”

(Source: News-Medical)

"The study found that white blood cell counts may be low due to a rs2814778-CC variant in the promoter of the atypical chemokine receptor 1-coding gene ACKR1. While this variant is relatively uncommon in individuals of European ancestry, it appears to be found in more than 60 percent of African Americans and is found at especially high frequency in some populations from sub-Saharan Africa.”
(Genomeweb)

“When slaves were brought to the American colonies from west Africa, they often grew various kinds of rice in small gardens to feed themselves. Rice became a cash crop for plantation owners, however, with the advent of a high-quality variety of rice in 1685.”
(Erik Stokstad, Science, American Rice: Out of Africa Slaves may have brought key cash crop with them)

“Okra originated from the Abyssinian center, an area that includes Ethiopia, a portion of Eritrea, and the eastern, higher part of the Anglo-Egyptian Sudan. The crop was probably taken into Egypt by Moslems from the East who conquered Egypt in the seventh century.”
(Ambayeba Muimba-Kankolongo, Vegetable Production, in Food Crop Production by Smallholder Farmers in Southern Africa, 2018 11.3.1 Origin and Geographic Distribution)

And according to team Internet Indians, this pitch black individual represents a black man. However, when you look at the hands and feet you see the same brown complexion as Amerindians have. The same complexion as can be seen in all the other murals and paintings.

These people suffer from an inferiority complex, where they try to identify with other people’s identities and accomplishments.

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The Chama Vase” from Guatemala, ca. 700 CE

This Maya polychrome ceramic ware from Chama, Guatemala was made around the 8th century CE. This pot is decorated with pictoral designs painted in several tints of red-orange and sepia on cream slip, red and black lines with typical Chama chevron band at top and bottom. Seven human figures in ceremony are accompanied by two to four glyphs.


7551648276_0d04bf6e17.jpg

Watercolor Roll-out of the Chama Vase by Mary Louise Baker


 
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