“Microsoft is gonna ruin the games industry……

[MeachTheMonster]

Dude, you can spin this however you want. It doesn't change that Microsoft is a $2 trillion company. They had nothing but space and opportunity to do the exact same thing Sony did,

Sony bought up a bunch of shyt. Only thing y’all saying microsoft did wrong is not buy shyt a long time ago. They should have purchased bioware, bethesda, treyarch, respawn, obsidian, etc a long time ago. So what? they didn’t then and they are buying now.

and put out games that defined the Xbox as a console and an experience in general. They couldn't do it. So they're going to take properties off the shelf and make Sony fund their direct competitor with derivative yearly release CoD sales . And Sony isn't supposed to feel some type of way. But I'm patient. We'll see how this all plays out after it goes through.

Capitalism is the name of the game.

 

[gurf]

Sony bought up a bunch of shyt. Only thing y’all saying microsoft did wrong is not buy shyt a long time ago. They should have purchased bioware, bethesda, treyarch, respawn, obsidian, etc a long time ago. So what? they didn’t then and they are buying now.


Capitalism is the name of the game.

What did Sony buy that contributed to this “consolidation”.

Consumers preferring PS5 over Xbox does not = consolidation

You do understand these studios have the option to say no when Sony reaches out for an exclusive deal right?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

What did Sony buy that contributed to this “consolidation”.

They’ve been buying studios and publishers since they got into gaming.

Holding 3rd party games hostage on the leading platform is “consolidation”

Buying bungie is “consolidation”

Charging a premium or exclusivity for store discoverability is “consolidation”

Consumers preferring PS5 over Xbox does not = consolidation

I said nothing about PS5 vs Xbox.

You do understand these studios have the option to say no when Sony reaches out for an exclusive deal right?

Say no to the market leader and get your game buried under those that say yes.

Sounds like a great choice

 

[The Mad Titan]

What did Sony buy that contributed to this “consolidation”.

Consumers preferring PS5 over Xbox does not = consolidation

You do understand these studios have the option to say no when Sony reaches out for an exclusive deal right?

But why would they?

Consumers preferring P5 over Xbox is something you making up in your head.


There are millions of Xbox consumers that instantly lose the chance to play games because Sony can offer a exclusive deal to a random and it's almost stupid for them to say no. Now if Sony wasn't dominant with it's market cap then maybe a dev saying no would make sense. But why would anybody that's trying to get their products into the most hands or seen by the most people turn down a deal from Sony?


So consolidation? Not on paper but the effects are the same for the CONSUMER and Worse for your average dev, because it's a gamble on hitting with a Sony stimulus or getting a gamepass deal hopefully to hit on Xbox. If Sony tells them they can't release on gamepass what is the right move? (We know Sony does this based on legal documents)


It seems that a lot of y'all just don't want the roles reversed for some reason.


Is Sony going to stop making there amazing 1st party games because of MS buying up stuff?

 

[gurf]

So in essence it’s cool if our team does it. Except M$ is doing it 100 times over.

Got ya.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

So in essence it’s cool if our team does it. Except M$ is doing it 100 times over.

Got ya.

There’s no teams.

that’s just the way you sony stans look at it.

It’s business. Lots of times in business the market leader gets very comfortable and those that want to compete have to do drastic things to change the status quo. In this instance those drastic things happen to be beneficial to consumers and most industry participants alike.

 

[Fatboi1]

But why would they?

Consumers preferring Xbox over PS is something you making up in your head.


There are millions of Playstation consumers that instantly lose the chance to play games because MSFT can offer a exclusive deal to a random and it's almost stupid for them to say no. Now if MSFT wasn't dominant with it's market cap then maybe a dev saying no would make sense. But why would anybody that's trying to get their products into the most hands or seen by the most people turn down a deal from MSFT?


So consolidation? Not on paper but the effects are the same for the CONSUMER and Worse for your average dev, because it's a gamble on hitting with a MSFT stimulus or getting a Sony deal hopefully to hit on Playstation. If MSFT tells them they can't release on PS4/PS5 what is the right move? (We know MSFT does this based on legal documents)


It seems that a lot of y'all just don't want the roles reversed for some reason.


Is MSFT going to stop making there newly purchased studios 1st party games because of Sony buying up stuff?

 

[gurf]

There’s no teams.

that’s just the way you sony stans look at it.

It’s business. Lots of times in business the market leader gets very comfortable and those that want to compete have to do drastic things to change the status quo. In this instance those drastic things happen to be beneficial to consumers and most industry participants alike.

You say Sony consolidation is bad, but somehow its ok when M$ does it.

How does one benefit over the other in your eyes(outside of you unconditional love for everything M$)?

You don’t think M$ will do the same thing you claim Sony is doing once they’re done with their buying spree?

Take the Persona games for example. Yea they were exclusive, but since they (the studio)weren’t bought they decided to release games on Gamepas down the line.

With future activision/zenimax games there’s almost 0 chance we’ll see them on PS platforms.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You say Sony consolidation is bad, but somehow its ok when M$ does it.

No. You said consolidation is bad.

I said it’s is an inevitability that sony has mostly benefited from and accelerated through their own practices.

How does one benefit over the other in your eyes.

One plan leads to Game Directors stumbling over their words and not even knowing how to talk about their game for fear of breaking some contract with sony: FF16

And a franchise being disjointed and all over the place depending on when/how sony decides to allow that franchise to be released: FF7R

With the other, consumers get games on “most”platforms with a much lower barrier of entry.

Like if sony said tomorrow they were gonna buy square and put their games on EVERYTHING but xbox including streaming PC, PS+ day one, I would be excited. That’s a much better proposition than what we are currently getting from Sony and Square.

You don’t think M$ will do the same thing you claim Sony is doing once they’re done with their buying spree?

If they were the market leader they wouldn’t need to reach the way they are. In which case Sony or someone else would need to do the reaching.

In all of it consumers win, which is the point of competition.

Take the Persona games for example. Yea they were exclusive, but since they weren’t bought they decided to release games on Gamepas down the line.

With future activision/zenimax games there’s almost 0 chance we’ll see them on PS platforms.

If sony wanted to keep blocking those games, they would.

 

[Fatboi1]

Like if sony said tomorrow they were gonna buy square and put their games on EVERYTHING but xbox including streaming PC, PS+ day one, I would be excited. That’s a much better proposition than what we are currently getting from Sony and Square.

These games are on Gamepass, PS+, Steam, PS Now(PS+ Premium) etc. What's the problem now?

All of the Final Fantasy Games Available to Play on Xbox Game Pass

While some Final Fantasy titles have recently been removed from the service, there are still major FF games available to play on Xbox Game Pass.

gamerant.com

Why would REMOVING a platform make it better?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

These games are on Gamepass, PS+, Steam, PS Now etc. What's the problem now?

You talmbout all the old ports

Be real. Squares games are all over the place.

Octopath 1 is on xbox and not playstation.

Octopath 2 is on Playstation and not xbox

FF15 is “coming to pc” and maybe xbox at some point but the director of the game has to pretend it isnt.

FF7 port, Spin-off and everything else about the franchise is on xbox, But the most recent release isn’t.

All this fukkery cause they need to hoe themselves out to whoever is gonna give them an up front bag.

Having a stable home, budget and release plan would do so much for both squares success in building
an audience and consumers reliable access to their games.

 

[Fatboi1]

You talmbout all the old ports

Be real. Squares games are all over the place.

Octopath 1 is on xbox and not playstation.

Octopath 2 is on Playstation and not xbox

FF15 is “coming to pc” and maybe xbox at some point but the director of the game has to pretend it isnt.

FF7 port, Spin-off and everything else about the franchise is on xbox, But the most recent release isn’t.

All this fukkery cause they need to hoe themselves out to whoever is gonna give them an up front bag.

Having a stable home, budget and release plan would do so much for both squares success in building
an audience and consumers reliable access to their games.

Damn lol. I haven't been paying attention Squeenix is everywhere.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Why would REMOVING a platform make it better?

They can’t remove old games, people already purchased them.

 

[gurf]

They can’t remove old games, people already purchased them.

Quit being dense, M$ is attempting to take out Sony with these purchases.

It’s bad since Sony has exclusives that negatively effect the Xbox, but it’s ok when M$ does the same with the Sony.

Make it make sense.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Quit being dense, M$ is attempting to take out Sony with these purchases.

It’s bad since Sony has exclusives that negatively effect the Xbox, but it’s ok when M$ does the same with the Sony.

Make it make sense.

why you getting your blood pressure up arguing with these Xbots?