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[Gizmo_Duck]

Be themselves?

It will never stop being true

 

[Black Man of the Nile]

The consumers want one company to dominate. Consumers prefer to buy that single box and feel like it covers all their bases. If they’re buying something else it better be different.

Microsoft needs to differentiate Xbox from its competitors. Nintendo learned this and moved in their own direction after years of failure. The Switch is a drastically different experience overall than PlayStation. The Xbox is not nor was it ever.

I disagree. I feel like the OG Xbox and 360 had their own identities separate from their competitors

The Xbox One was trying to be a cable box

 

[parallax]

All those Xbox Stanley think pieces

I said several times in all those merger threads y’all didn’t know what the hell you were talking about

Pachter wrong again as usual

damn, theres a name i hadnt thought of in a while

 

[winb83]

And at it’s core the people love nintendo for their games. No getting around that fact. Mario is the biggest IP in the world right now and Zelda is about to win another GOTY. Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Mario Kart continue to print money. 125m consoles sold.

Microsoft need to make good games that you can only play on their box/platforms. Stop trying to be playstation, stop trying to be nintendo. Be yourself

If what you say is true then why did the N64 and GameCube do paltry numbers in comparison to PlayStation? Nintendo still made good games then.

It was when Nintendo decided to go a different way with their platforms they found the most success.

At its core Xbox is so similar to PlayStation with the same target demographic that it struggles to justify its own existence. The 18-34 year old target consumers already have a brand they like. They don’t need or want 2 of them. People not trying to spend a grand buying boxes because the other one started making more games that are like what they already got.

 

[CEO of Morgan Industries]

All those Xbox Stanley think pieces

I said several times in all those merger threads y’all didn’t know what the hell you were talking about

Pachter wrong again as usual

I'll never hate on Mad Titan or Meach or Gizmo or anyone here because ultimately, they're all just like the rest of us. Non-experts passing the time talking console business on a message board.

But that goofy-ass Michael Pachter. How does one man get his job and all the press he gets as an analyst and be so glaringly wrong about everything all the time? Doesn't understand the video game market, doesn't have a correct thought in his head about what regulators will do. Still gets paid to give his dumbass opinion.

 

[Fatboi1]

If what you say is true then why did the N64 and GameCube do paltry numbers in comparison to PlayStation? Nintendo still made good games then.

It was when Nintendo decided to go a different way with their platforms they found the most success.

At its core Xbox is so similar to PlayStation with the same target demographic that it struggles to justify its own existence. The 18-34 year old target consumers already have a brand they like. They don’t need or want 2 of them. People not trying to spend a grand buying boxes because the other one started making more games that are like what they already got.

Yet this exact thing was true when Xbox was arguably very strong in the US. Xbox and Xbox 360 had almost the same library outside of some exclusives.

Nintendo 64 and Gamecube doing poorly had a multitude of reasons why it did but not because it was "samey". That line of thinking would make it so that any big game that exists now wouldn't have been made because there's already a "king" at the time.

Gamecube was seen as a "kiddy" console that cost too much with poor third party support because of using that tiny DVD format which limited data.
The controller being "weird" as well with that stupid "C-stick" made it a problem for third party games as well.

Nintendo made the same mistake two times in a row with opting for cartridges for the N64 and then the mini DVD on the GC.

 

[Rekkapryde]

I actually disagree. That was Microsoft most distinct and strongest branding and it worked for them. What are they now?

The Budweiser can shooters held them down

It wasn’t enough tho. Can’t be on top only catering to one demo. And the biggest reasons the 360 took off was the price difference with the ps3, better games at the jump, and much easier to program for. 9 million head start and still blew that when them third party exclusives went away later that gen . RROD hurt bad as well. Haven’t really done anything since the second half of the 360. That’s on their leadership or lack thereof

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

If what you say is true then why did the N64 and GameCube do paltry numbers in comparison to PlayStation? Nintendo still made good games then.

It was when Nintendo decided to go a different way with their platforms they found the most success.

At its core Xbox is so similar to PlayStation with the same target demographic that it struggles to justify its own existence. The 18-34 year old target consumers already have a brand they like. They don’t need or want 2 of them. People not trying to spend a grand buying boxes because the other one started making more games that are like what they already got.

True, the main distinction is one is notable for its games and one talks about a bunch of shyt no one cares about like RDNA 2 and teraflops, sustainability, etc.

 

[Hater]

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

 

[winb83]

I disagree. I feel like the OG Xbox and 360 had their own identities separate from their competitors

The Xbox One was trying to be a cable box

Xbox started as a project by Bill Gates to dethrone Sony. Back when Sony was making all those cartoon platform games Xbox was making stuff like Blinx the Time Sweeper. Back when Sony was making sports games so was Xbox. Even in the early 360 days they tried producing a bunch of JRPGs.

If anything maybe the Xbox 360 had an identity as a dudebro shooter box. For the most part it’s always been an alternative for people to PlayStation.

 

[MrLogic]

M$ just make some good games in house



That nikka steve jobs was right M$ was and is trash

no talent just all in the videos like puffy well buy they way into all the videos

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

 

[winb83]

Yet this exact thing was true when Xbox was arguably very strong in the US. Xbox and Xbox 360 had almost the same library outside of some exclusives.

Nintendo 64 and Gamecube doing poorly had a multitude of reasons why it did but not because it was "samey". That line of thinking would make it so that any big game that exists now wouldn't have been made because there's already a "king" at the time.

Gamecube was seen as a "kiddy" console that cost too much with poor third party support because of using that tiny DVD format which limited data.
The controller being "weird" as well with that stupid "C-stick" made it a problem for third party games as well.

Nintendo made the same mistake two times in a row with opting for cartridges for the N64 and then the mini DVD on the GC.

And you don’t think that had much to do with Xbox’s success? People like to romanticize the Xbox 360 but let’s keep it real. Sony fukked up. They caught themselves and course corrected and by the end of that generation it was a wash. That was also the generation that did the legwork for the sorts of first party games Sony is famous for now.

Some of the Switch’s most popular games are Wii U games. Wii U had quality games and failed. Post GameCube Nintendo consoles have been the home for shovelware. Lately some of the most popular third party games skip them entirely. New GTA games, Madden, CoD, the list goes on.

If anything Nintendo is the success they are now because they leveraged their portable into a home console and before that it was motion control gimmicks. None of their success is even remotely close to anything modern PlayStation is doing. The two couldn’t be further apart. This is why you’ll see known PS fanboys on this site owning a Switch. How many of them owned Wii Us?

Xbox needs to separate itself from what PlayStation does. The world doesn’t need the same product again like that.

 

[AStrangeName]

Euros don't take any hint of monopolistic and anti-competitive practices lightly and never have. They make Apple fall back on the regular and have sonned MS in the past as well.

Would MS be willing to bend in order to make this still work? I doubt it as they've kinda made their endgame quite clear. But that's their only hope from what it seems right now.

IIRC, the Euros also made NVIDIA fall back something serious when they were trying to acquire ARM