Michael Eric Dyson blasts Cornel West: ‘You ain’t that important’

[shhh-kull & bones]

Michael Eric Dyson blasts Cornel West: 'You ain't that important' - Rolling Out

he just now found that out?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

because he's the first "black" president of america,

Obama should be more sympathetic to the struggle. Stop making it harder than it needs to be. Obama owes black people.

Put this into a tangible fukking sentence with a goal and plan.[DOUBLEPOST=1397344747][/DOUBLEPOST]

I hate both of these n*ggas (West & Dyson) but I love them at the same time. Pseudo-colloquial ass n*ggas.

They are intellectuals in their own right but the level of self importance that oozes from them is unbearable at times.

This is why I personally make fun of the liberal arts majors out here.

You got real dudes who are out here creating businesses and gaining skills and all these nikkas do is interpret politics and sociology and expect to get shyt done.

This isn't 1961 anymore.

Its time for nikkas to show and prove.[DOUBLEPOST=1397344838][/DOUBLEPOST]

Funny story about this phony clown cornel west. My brother was walking down a street in Brooklyn and cornel was coming the other direction. This lame nikka crossed the street on my brother and kept looking at my bro like he was extra shook. He was acting like some white girl. Dude is full of shyt and a fraud. He's prolly mad Obama cut him off from the parties and white girls. Salty ass bootleg Fredrick Douglas ass nikka.

This is the SEMINAL work on what I think Cornel has become:

http://nymag.com/news/features/cornel-west-2012-5/
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Al Sharpton has done everything you suggested, from organizing from the ground up to reaching out to the "top" after organizing to complement his efforts at the bottom, and he's done what you've given Hispanics and Asians credit for, but yet you dismiss him for '"snitching" and conclude his efforts as mere marches So is isn't it safe to say you are doing exactly what you claim others are doing to the Prez? Not giving proper credit[DOUBLEPOST=1397325156][/DOUBLEPOST]
But black folks have voted Repub, then eventually switched parties for a reason
Black folks, regardless of tax bracket, have mostly voted demo for a reason

There are hundreds of political parties, but are they any different than repubs and demos in their view towards issues that are unique to black communities? Ralph Nader, of the green party, was on record of criticizing Obama because he did not "focus on black issues," but yet he's not on record saying that towards Clinton or Bush. Same tactic used by demos and repubs, different party

So once again, it a selection of lessor evils

Its not sharptons snitching, its what he did to TURN into a snitch.

Dude was selling drugs, and was clearly shown to be a major a$$hole to black musicians and other black enterprises.

Theres no telling what damage he might have done to the black community.[DOUBLEPOST=1397345197][/DOUBLEPOST]

yeah, that is why that thread in HL about obama betraying minorities because of some promise zone is stupid, people seem to have a hard time understanding in cases like that how local politics is just as important as national politics, so they try to blame obama for what some local politicians did

Precisely.

I wasn't even mad at Obama about that shyt.

nikkas gotta get that paper up and bring it to the table. Can't be out here being mad they did what WE should have been doing in the first place.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

well if any black person is looking to politics for salvation of the black race they are delusional, my suggestion is based on just a power analysis of the american political system, i think we should split the vote because of the way the system is a minority can have more influence by being less predictable, my suggestion isnt so that politicians will come and save black people or so that politicians will address black issues (whatever that is)

at the end of the day black people need to save black people and IMO we will save ourselves by focusing on education and capitalism

somebody needs to post that video with claude anderson where he breaks down that politics only matters after you have an economic base, you cant use politics to build economics, everybody needs to watch that and stop crying like bytches over politicians, politics is simply a chess piece in a vast game, its not the key to black progress

I mostly agree. But like Dr. Anderson said, politics still plays a role, if not then the billionares and the various super pacs are wasting their money to ensure their agendas have congressional support
Props on including education along with capitalism while referencing Dr. Anderson. Too many of us focus on his economics platform, while completely ignoring the importance of education [higher education, STEM, knowledge of self, systematic racism]

"Black issues" are viewed differently by black folks of different tax brackets, education, religion, etc. The way black folks view "black issues," unfortunately are not solely based in personal experience, statistics, and "facts," but instead are formed by certain levels of conditioning, fairs of being labeled militant/reverse racist, and consciously/unconsciously being a c00n

How will splitting votes help with addressing "black issues" when this divide exist? I think voting in blocks is more effective, but it demands proper education [knowledge of self, systematic racism etc] so that a clear agenda will unite and hi-light the similarities in black folks of different tax brackets, education, religion, etc[DOUBLEPOST=1397345786][/DOUBLEPOST]

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This is why I personally make fun of the liberal arts majors out here.

You got real dudes who are out here creating businesses and gaining skills and all these nikkas do is interpret politics and sociology and expect to get shyt done.

This isn't 1961 anymore.

Its time for nikkas to show and prove.[DOUBLEPOST=1397344838][/DOUBLEPOST]

This is the SEMINAL work on what I think Cornel has become:

Why Cornel West Can’t Seem to Find Love and Justice in His Own Life -- New York Magazine
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Its not sharptons snitching, its what he did to TURN into a snitch.

Dude was selling drugs, and was clearly shown to be a major @sshole to black musicians and other black enterprises.

Theres no telling what damage he might have done to the black community.[DOUBLEPOST=1397345197][/DOUBLEPOST]
Precisely.

I wasn't even mad at Obama about that shyt.

nikkas gotta get that paper up and bring it to the table. Can't be out here being mad they did what WE should have been doing in the first place.

I'm not sure if he was pulling a Valentin Narcisse or was buying for himself and James Brown, eitherway I was disappointed in that. However, he has done too much for black folks for us to suddenly want to tear him down

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm not sure if he was pulling a Valentin Narcisse or was buying for himself and James Brown, eitherway I was disappointed in that. However, he has done too much for black folks for us to suddenly want to tear him down

Great reference. Definitely a Narcisse move.

And.....all that shyt is relative.

Drugs wasnt the only dirt Sharpton was associated with.

 

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[BocaRear]

Put this into a tangible fukking sentence with a goal and plan.[DOUBLEPOST=1397344747][/DOUBLEPOST]

I don't need to, Obama owes black people. you know this and I know this.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I don't need to, Obama owes black people. you know this and I know this.

Yet you can't express what you mean by this.

Bring some money to the table. Obama ain't your friend. He's not going to do more than hes already got his hands full with.

 

[BocaRear]

Yet you can't express what you mean by this.

Bring some money to the table. Obama ain't your friend. He's not going to do more than hes already got his hands full with.

So we should pull ourselves up from our bootstraps huh? :jrdncac:

 

[kermit da hustla]

I don't need to, Obama owes black people. you know this and I know this.

owes them what? what does he owe them any more than george w bush or bill clinton did? blacks voted overwhelmingly for clinton in both his initial and second run for the white house. did clinton owe them? are blacks just sitting on their collective ass and waiting for obama to write them a check? i've made threads wondering, "where's our 40 acres and a mule??" but i know it's not coming, leaving the onus on US to bring ourselves out of this social and economic malaise we remain mired in. it's not obama's job, as president of the united states of america ("united" being the operative word, since this is a nation of multiple ethnicities that fall under one group as americans), to focus on blacks. it debases his achievement in the face of racism to use the white house as a bully pulpit for addressing black people's woes. it makes us look weak and it renders the office of the presidency illegitimate.

let obama do his job.

and as @Piff Perkins eloquently noted, obama's done a LOT - legislatively speaking - that has helped black america. if you can't bother to read up on his record since entering the white house, why should i bother explaining why you're wrong?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

So we should pull ourselves up from our bootstraps huh? :jrdncac:

You're being defensive and i'm asking you to be reasonable.

BRING SOME PAPER TO THE TABLE.

You know why Obama hooked up that dude in LA that overlooked the hood?

Cause he had PAPER. He lobbied that shyt and got what he wanted.

Obama ain't got time to be out here guessing what nikkas want.

 

[BocaRear]

owes them what? what does he owe them any more than george w bush or bill clinton did? blacks voted overwhelmingly for clinton in both his initial and second run for the white house. did clinton owe them? are blacks just sitting on their collective ass and waiting for obama to write them a check? i've made threads wondering, "where's our 40 acres and a mule??" but i know it's not coming, leaving the onus on US to bring ourselves out of this social and economic malaise we remain mired in. it's not obama's job, as president of the united states of america ("united" being the operative word, since this is a nation of multiple ethnicities that fall under one group as americans), to focus on blacks. it debases his achievement in the face of racism to use the white house as a bully pulpit for addressing black people's woes. it makes us look weak and it renders the office of the presidency illegitimate.

let obama do his job.

and as @Piff Perkins eloquently noted, obama's done a LOT - legislatively speaking - that has helped black america. if you can't bother to read up on his record since entering the white house, why should i bother explaining why you're wrong?

Obama on that post-racial tip in a racist society

yet turns around & says this Obama blames lack of African American, Latino turnout for Democrats’ midterm woes

:nikkapls2:

You're being defensive and i'm asking you to be reasonable.

BRING SOME PAPER TO THE TABLE.

You know why Obama hooked up that dude in LA that overlooked the hood?

Cause he had PAPER. He lobbied that shyt and got what he wanted.

Obama ain't got time to be out here guessing what nikkas want.

Maybe he would if he wasn't too busy pandering to CACs in congress:nikkapls1:

 

[kermit da hustla]

Obama on that post-racial tip in a racist society

yet turns around & says this Obama blames lack of African American, Latino turnout for Democrats’ midterm woes

:nikkapls2:



Maybe he would if he wasn't too busy pandering to CACs in congress:nikkapls1:

he's right. white people stay informed on the issues and how high the stakes are in this electoral fight. latinos and blacks are turnt up and worried about love and hip-hop. what's wrong with what he says? it's a fact. go into and hood and ask them if they know what a "midterm" is, or who the koch brothers are, or if they can't identify the two wings of congress, or if they know the branches of government.

you seem unable to come to grips with how pathetically uninformed blacks are about civics in america. they simply don't care, outside of wanting obama to write them some checks.

 

[BocaRear]

he's right. white people stay informed on the issues and how high the stakes are in this electoral fight. latinos and blacks are turnt up and worried about love and hip-hop. what's wrong with what he says? it's a fact.

But I thought he was president of the united states, why is he calling out a specific group of people to vote for him :jrdnpls:

 

[kermit da hustla]

But I thought he was president of the united states, why is he calling out a specific group of people to vote on him :jrdnpls:

because those groups are still significant voting blocks that democrats have traditionally depended upon. but they're voting blocks within a larger and more inclusive tent of americans that includes whites, asians, gays, etc. we need blacks and latinos to vote dem to win, but that doesn't mean we need to focus explicitly on issues pertaining to them. that's divisive. we're in this together.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Obama on that post-racial tip in a racist society

yet turns around & says this Obama blames lack of African American, Latino turnout for Democrats’ midterm woes

:nikkapls2:



Maybe he would if he wasn't too busy pandering to CACs in congress:nikkapls1:

Cacs with money.

Keep playing dumb.