Men, are we really this unfair to our women?

[KidJSoul]

Eh it's never just one sided

Some men are bad partners that aren't really empathetic, and aren't reasonable about doing their part at home. They still want their wife to basically be a maid. And let their ego delude them into thinking she'll put up with it.

Some women are also unrealistic as well as pertains to what they want out of a man vs what they give (or what they think they give). Many are not as empathetic and understanding as they think, and tend to downplay what their men do or feel. They can even treat their man like they are her dad, the same way dome guys expect their wife to basically be their mom.

In short, both expect traditional things out of their partner without providing anything traditional, or even anything at all.

And of course both can be abusive.

Only difference is that men are more likely to outright kill their spouse, unfortunately.

And also men are less wiling to divorce if they are unhappy because they don't want to potentially lose their house, or deal unfavorable court/divorce results.

 

[MasterOfAllHeSurveyz]

I should've been a televangelist because black folks are easily hustled if you just tell them what they want to hear.

Gaskin's Bibliography:

 

[JNew]

Thanks for proving the men in the video right …

ok? and this man is who? a guy with a camera and a youtube account.

 

[DA_LURKA]

...

 

[General Mills]

It’s a cold world outchea. Either you get finessed or you are the finesser

Women are naturally devious but when a man got that dawg in him we are unfukkwitable

 

[Boxchevy]

With all due respect, you're missing the part where the women choose these men.

Entire generations of men have been raised by mothers, grandmothers, aunts, and female teachers during their formative years. They're taught what they learned about women from women. They're told to be selfless, active listeners, and they're taught to believe in "happy life happy wife" when they get married. They're taught to put the woman they're interested in first and treat her like a queen. These men open doors, pull chairs, pay for dinners, send good morning texts etc. These men get cheated on, dumped with flimsy or even no reasoning, literally told they're too nice and that's why she can't stay with him, divorced out of the blue, or left on read and never even get a 'yes' to a date.

Those men get roasted by men AND women online and characterized as weak, pathetic simps. These men grow up watching all the shyt their mothers and teachers told them getting them absolutely no where whilst callous and uncaring men drown in p*ssy. These experiences turn these men towards the direction of the Red pill and manosphere and they figure 'it must be BECAUSE that guy was an a$$hole that women liked him. I need to emulate his behavior'.

Women often ask "where did the good men all go?" And men say "nowhere. Y'all just don't want them".

I don't disagree with your points, but I don't want to deny women's sense of agency here. They make bad choices in men and somehow its men's fault. There's always a simp waiting, they always have that as a back up. Us men jump without a safety net. Unless you're a platinum, executive member of handsome gang, you'll likely never encounter a female simp.


Look far enough and you'll see behind every cold man is a person who made him feel ashamed for being vulnerable. Whether it's a parent that whooped his ass even harder when he cried, or a group of boys bullying him for being soft or a woman making him ever regret saying something personal by throwing that at him in a fight. A lot of women THINK they want their man to be vulnerable and then when he is, she has no idea what to do with what he just shared with her at best and at worst will actually be disgusted at his weakness.

Women don't 'choose'...men and women choose each other. A woman cant 'choose' a man without his consent. Men are not victims, just stop.

 

[RareHunter]

The women who get mistreated in relationships mainly date dusty street dudes

They front like it's ceo and nerds but most women complaining have never dated that kind of dude


Also alot of women don't clean and cook anymore

Alot of couples both the man and woman work

Not to many women are house wives in 2022

So that ain't women issue

Especially modern women

These chicks aren't traditional but want they husband to be traditional

And it doesn't work that way

U want equal treatment

But don't put no effort on ur side of the bargain.


That why alot of men don't want to be married it's no gain,
u putting more effort in something that not beneficial financially or emotionally to u.


See as a man I see it from a diff angle than u books

Women want u to


Work all day
Pay all the bills
Fix everything in the house
Take the kids to school
Pick em up
Make sure they homework done
be there emotionally for them

and than please her sexually all in a 24 hr span



while she work maybe

cook and clean maybe

Help the kids with homework maybe


See books I love u

But ur a old head

Ur talking about women from 1970-2010

Not modern chicks who arent with the traditional marriage format

Game diff today

And many men hit before. Realistically what is a man gaining when all the women give it out anyway? There’s no exclusivity anymore. I’m telling you, women will let brehs record on the 1st or 2nd meeting and have a whole other dude just for dinner dates, that will have to wife it after waiting 2yrs. I wish I was making this up.

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

Women don't 'choose'...men and women choose each other. A woman cant 'choose' a man without his consent. Men are not victims, just stop.

Did I say men were victims? Did I ever say the men these women end up with didn't choose her?

Of course they choose each other, but the woman that picks the callous man over the simp has made a choice. Both put themselves out there and choose her, she chooses whether she'll go along with the simp or the other man.

Women have to live with their choices just like men have to. If a woman chooses a man who will treat her poorly vs a man who will always put her first, I'm not trying to hear "where are all the gentlemen at? All these nikkas did me wrong "

 

[TEH]

Did I say men were victims? Did I ever say the men these women end up with didn't choose her?

Of course they choose each other, but the woman that picks the callous man over the simp has made a choice. Both put themselves out there and choose her, she chooses whether she'll go along with the simp or the other man.

Women have to live with their choices just like men have to. If a woman chooses a man who will treat her poorly vs a man who will always put her first, I'm not trying to hear "where are all the gentlemen at? All these nikkas did me wrong "

Yep

Like I said implied before … that advice in the OP … as ideal as it could be with the right woman …probably will not get you p*ssy … it will most likely leave you beating your dikk to JBO and posting angry threads in TLR ..

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

You've made this accurate analysis of the faults of men very well. Now, could you also make the analysis of the faults of women too? The failures are shared by both genders in my opinion, so both sides need to look at themselves and see where they are going wrong.

To be fair, even tho I’m HOB (hard on bros), I’m just as frustrated at women for a lot of the shyt they do.
In the past, I’ve often said that men are having problems adjusting to the age of equality b/c of rigid adherence to outdated, archaic gender norms.

But imagine the idea that women are stuck in the same silly ass boat.

I’ll never gloss over the fact that many men are unfair to women. But, damn…a LOT of women…are in LOVE with being victims.

So consider some of the common issues I mentioned in my former post like women feeling an alienation of affection from their partners. Sure the men doing that aren’t cool for that shyt. But a lot of women are too scared or in love with the “silent sufferer” role to even address it or communicate about it. Why? If you in a relationship where you scared to bring shyt up, why you with that person?
Holding stuff in until you snap and become disrespectful isn’t cool. Thinking it’s your role to “endure” shyt isn’t the way.

If the sex is wack, talk it out. Women constantly green light a lot of wack shyt men do to stroke egos or because they are afraid of what men will call them or say about them. (I’m not talking about those dealing with the real threat of violence.) I’m talking about chicks still being hurt and bothered by labels to the extent they don’t confront nonsense or allow societal rules to control or shape their destinies. I’m sorry but if you were cumming all your life and made to this one dude who got wack dikk, why the hell would you just let that go?! Hell nah.

“B-but he’ll think I’m a hoe or argumentative…” SO?!
It’s hard for me to take some women seriously when even in the age of equality, so many are still fumbling the ball.

Somewhere, right now, there is a woman living a life she really didn’t want to live, but hating men and the world b/c she obeyed out of fear of being called a bad name. That shyt is crazy to me. How you gon let a word strip you of your existential agency?!

I can hold men accountable without hate or bitterness, partly b/c I never allowed men (or women) to sway me in what I wanted for myself.

Men say “get married young”.
I say “NOPE!” If I’d followed that silly ass advice I wouldn’t have had nearly as much fun, nor traveled as much or made the money to do what I wanted if I was saddled with kids too early growing up. My ass was riding tigers and elephants in foreign lands in my 20s. The thought of being married they young makes me dry gag.

Men say “you need to fukk and screw on the first date or he gon ghost?”
I say “NOPE!” I fukk when I want to. I do what’s best for me. That’s it. Ain’t shyt else to talk about.

Men say “Only fukk one man for the rest of your life, or you a hoe!”
I say “NOPE!” Once again, I do what I want with my body. It ain’t your business.

Men say….about 80 dozen other silly ass things to try to control women. But in 2022, in an age where females arguably have more power than ever seen in 3000+ years of civilization, you mean to tell me, these chicks STILL afraid to live life on their own terms?!

Nah. I can honestly say that I don’t mind accountability for myself because I’ve always lived my life on my own terms. So if I fukk up, I’m cool because at least I did it my way. And so far, the decisions I’ve made have afforded me a beautiful life.

I won’t even get into the “she still sukkin dikk for rent” conversations about women, b/c I got a list of hustles that don’t require that if u aren’t oriented towards that lifestyle, but chicks still outchea playing victim. There’s a lot more we could get into psychologically, but the love affair a lot of women have with victim mentality in an era of opportunity is. Don’t get me started about these heifers walking around without being armed and protecting themselves.

Victim. Mentality.

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

Please tell me dude was trolling with that question. Where are all these 7 figure women out there?

Yeah....Social media talks about seven figures like it's the new $60k a year.

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

So it’s really worse than what they’re saying. The older I get the more that I see the way some men are isn’t ok. The least we can do is treat women how we want to be treated. But I’ll tell you no lie … the call to that “fukk bytches get money” lifestyle is strong … even married men are caught up in it …

Yeah. I think it’s it’s not just the men tho. Women fall prey to this shyt too. It’s just that this lifestyle appeals to ego so well. We end up killing ourselves in pursuit of shyt we don’t even need 99.9% of the time…to shore up feelings of insecurity,

 

[Cel 510 kid ados forever]

To be fair, even tho I’m HOB (hard on bros), I’m just as frustrated at women for a lot of the shyt they do.
In the past, I’ve often said that men are having problems adjusting to the age of equality b/c of rigid adherence to outdated, archaic gender norms.

But imagine the idea that women are stuck in the same silly ass boat.

I’ll never gloss over the fact that many men are unfair to women. But, damn…a LOT of women…are in LOVE with being victims.

So consider some of the common issues I mentioned in my former post like women feeling an alienation of affection from their partners. Sure the men doing that aren’t cool for that shyt. But a lot of women are too scared or in love with the “silent sufferer” role to even address it or communicate about it. Why? If you in a relationship where you scared to bring shyt up, why you with that person?
Holding stuff in until you snap and become disrespectful isn’t cool. Thinking it’s your role to “endure” shyt isn’t the way.

If the sex is wack, talk it out. Women constantly green light a lot of wack shyt men do to stroke egos or because they are afraid of what men will call them or say about them. (I’m not talking about those dealing with the real threat of violence.) I’m talking about chicks still being hurt and bothered by labels to the extent they don’t confront nonsense or allow societal rules to control or shape their destinies. I’m sorry but if you were cumming all your life and made to this one dude who got wack dikk, why the hell would you just let that go?! Hell nah.

“B-but he’ll think I’m a hoe or argumentative…” SO?!
It’s hard for me to take some women seriously when even in the age of equality, so many are still fumbling the ball.

Somewhere, right now, there is a woman living a life she really didn’t want to live, but hating men and the world b/c she obeyed out of fear of being called a bad name. That shyt is crazy to me. How you gon let a word strip you of your existential agency?!

I can hold men accountable without hate or bitterness, partly b/c I never allowed men (or women) to sway me in what I wanted for myself.

Men say “get married young”.
I say “NOPE!” If I’d followed that silly ass advice I wouldn’t have had nearly as much fun, nor traveled as much or made the money to do what I wanted if I was saddled with kids too early growing up. My ass was riding tigers and elephants in foreign lands in my 20s. The thought of being married they young makes me dry gag.

Men say “you need to fukk and screw on the first date or he gon ghost?”
I say “NOPE!” I fukk when I want to. I do what’s best for me. That’s it. Ain’t shyt else to talk about.

Men say “Only fukk one man for the rest of your life, or you a hoe!”
I say “NOPE!” Once again, I do what I want with my body. It ain’t your business.

Men say….about 80 dozen other silly ass things to try to control women. But in 2022, in an age where females arguably have more power than ever seen in 3000+ years of civilization, you mean to tell me, these chicks STILL afraid to live life on their own terms?!

Nah. I can honestly say that I don’t mind accountability for myself because I’ve always lived my life on my own terms. So if I fukk up, I’m cool because at least I did it my way. And so far, the decisions I’ve made have afforded me a beautiful life.

I won’t even get into the “she still sukkin dikk for rent” conversations about women, b/c I got a list of hustles that don’t require that if u aren’t oriented towards that lifestyle, but chicks still outchea playing victim. There’s a lot more we could get into psychologically, but the love affair a lot of women have with victim mentality in an era of opportunity is. Don’t get me started about these heifers walking around without being armed and protecting themselves.

Victim. Mentality.

Ur really the only hob on the coli

I respect that even tho I don't agree with some

U will say things on here other women won't say

Cause they scared to get ganged up on

Cause this site is male dominated

 

[Gloxina]

To be fair, even tho I’m HOB (hard on bros), I’m just as frustrated at women for a lot of the shyt they do.
In the past, I’ve often said that men are having problems adjusting to the age of equality b/c of rigid adherence to outdated, archaic gender norms.

But imagine the idea that women are stuck in the same silly ass boat.

I’ll never gloss over the fact that many men are unfair to women. But, damn…a LOT of women…are in LOVE with being victims.

So consider some of the common issues I mentioned in my former post like women feeling an alienation of affection from their partners. Sure the men doing that aren’t cool for that shyt. But a lot of women are too scared or in love with the “silent sufferer” role to even address it or communicate about it. Why? If you in a relationship where you scared to bring shyt up, why you with that person?
Holding stuff in until you snap and become disrespectful isn’t cool. Thinking it’s your role to “endure” shyt isn’t the way.

If the sex is wack, talk it out. Women constantly green light a lot of wack shyt men do to stroke egos or because they are afraid of what men will call them or say about them. (I’m not talking about those dealing with the real threat of violence.) I’m talking about chicks still being hurt and bothered by labels to the extent they don’t confront nonsense or allow societal rules to control or shape their destinies. I’m sorry but if you were cumming all your life and made to this one dude who got wack dikk, why the hell would you just let that go?! Hell nah.

“B-but he’ll think I’m a hoe or argumentative…” SO?!
It’s hard for me to take some women seriously when even in the age of equality, so many are still fumbling the ball.

Somewhere, right now, there is a woman living a life she really didn’t want to live, but hating men and the world b/c she obeyed out of fear of being called a bad name. That shyt is crazy to me. How you gon let a word strip you of your existential agency?!

I can hold men accountable without hate or bitterness, partly b/c I never allowed men (or women) to sway me in what I wanted for myself.

Men say “get married young”.
I say “NOPE!” If I’d followed that silly ass advice I wouldn’t have had nearly as much fun, nor traveled as much or made the money to do what I wanted if I was saddled with kids too early growing up. My ass was riding tigers and elephants in foreign lands in my 20s. The thought of being married they young makes me dry gag.

Men say “you need to fukk and screw on the first date or he gon ghost?”
I say “NOPE!” I fukk when I want to. I do what’s best for me. That’s it. Ain’t shyt else to talk about.

Men say “Only fukk one man for the rest of your life, or you a hoe!”
I say “NOPE!” Once again, I do what I want with my body. It ain’t your business.

Men say….about 80 dozen other silly ass things to try to control women. But in 2022, in an age where females arguably have more power than ever seen in 3000+ years of civilization, you mean to tell me, these chicks STILL afraid to live life on their own terms?!

Nah. I can honestly say that I don’t mind accountability for myself because I’ve always lived my life on my own terms. So if I fukk up, I’m cool because at least I did it my way. And so far, the decisions I’ve made have afforded me a beautiful life.

I won’t even get into the “she still sukkin dikk for rent” conversations about women, b/c I got a list of hustles that don’t require that if u aren’t oriented towards that lifestyle, but chicks still outchea playing victim. There’s a lot more we could get into psychologically, but the love affair a lot of women have with victim mentality in an era of opportunity is. Don’t get me started about these heifers walking around without being armed and protecting themselves.

Victim. Mentality.

Love it all!!

This is what true accountability looks like, and it is actually scary for many women because being vocal and taking up space may make others uncomfortable and affect relationships. It may also force you to take more responsibility for your life and outcome. It may also force you to discover yourself and find out if you’re just following the path set for you, or doing what you actually want to do. And if you realize you aren’t actually happy, then YOU have to do something about it. And if you choose to be in a relationship, you have to actually show up and be intentional, and be strong enough to walk away with your dignity if it’s not working.

You said a whole lot, here.


I think dynamics are changing rapidly and a lot of men and women are caught in the middle. Not quite traditional, not quite modern. We have to figure out how to make the puzzle pieces fit with someone who is trying to figure it out the same way we are.

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

With all due respect, you're missing the part where the women choose these men.

Entire generations of men have been raised by mothers, grandmothers, aunts, and female teachers during their formative years. They're taught what they learned about women from women. They're told to be selfless, active listeners, and they're taught to believe in "happy life happy wife" when they get married. They're taught to put the woman they're interested in first and treat her like a queen. These men open doors, pull chairs, pay for dinners, send good morning texts etc. These men get cheated on, dumped with flimsy or even no reasoning, literally told they're too nice and that's why she can't stay with him, divorced out of the blue, or left on read and never even get a 'yes' to a date.

Those men get roasted by men AND women online and characterized as weak, pathetic simps. These men grow up watching all the shyt their mothers and teachers told them getting them absolutely no where whilst callous and uncaring men drown in p*ssy. These experiences turn these men towards the direction of the Red pill and manosphere and they figure 'it must be BECAUSE that guy was an a$$hole that women liked him. I need to emulate his behavior'.

Women often ask "where did the good men all go?" And men say "nowhere. Y'all just don't want them".

I don't disagree with your points, but I don't want to deny women's sense of agency here. They make bad choices in men and somehow its men's fault. There's always a simp waiting, they always have that as a back up. Us men jump without a safety net. Unless you're a platinum, executive member of handsome gang, you'll likely never encounter a female simp.

Women don’t choose these men. They choose what men show them during courtship phase or to get between their legs.

Which is COMPLETELY different from how they act when that other shoe drops in a lot of cases. Men accuse women of switching up, but many of them are CONSTANTLY switching it up. You ain’t seen how a lot of married dudes act. Hell, there’s shyt tons of men who literally treat everybody better than the partners holding them down. Why? Because they feel that once they have a woman, they no longer have to work to keep her.
The old women use to tell us “courting ain’t marriage”. What they describing is this switch a lot of men flip in their heads once they in a relationship with you. Once you become a wife/mother, for a lot of men they done. You on the shelf while they trying to chase the next one.

Not saying that women don’t pick some duds sometimes, but the personas a lot of men are willing to fabricate to obtain women are complete 180s from who they truly are. And like all of this, it works both ways to be honest. I know some women who mighty morph into whatever guy they dating.

So everybody is fronting and it’s hard to build anything real when foundations are made of sand to begin with. We just speaking on how men act in this thread.