You can't exclude international play, or a NCAA ring.
Melo is 11th points, and 10x All-Star, 6x All-Pro, and Scoring Champ but is only in by association
. Mitch is already in and this is more than he's done.
Melo Believes The Denver Nuggets Gave Nikola Jokic The Jersey Number 15 To Erase His Accomplishments
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Melo is 11th points, and 10x All-Star, 6x All-Pro, and Scoring Champ but is only in by association
. Mitch is already in and this is more than he's done.
I am not a huge fan of Melo's game but yeah this shyt was wild.
Denver fukking retired Fat Lever's number but they give #15 away a season after he leaves to Anthony Randolph? C'mon.
But it does erase any allegiance or Give a fukk you can realistically expect from a team. Its not just about accomplishments (which again is one 1st rd win) its about your relationship with the team/city. This nikka left and never looked back but they supposed to go out of their way to show him respect...over a guy that actually wants to be there? Its one thing if he won a chip but you cant walk away like he did and expect a bunch of points (nikka didnt even win a scoring title there) to earn you...well...any points
What did Melo "accomplish" for the Nuggets?
With 4 All-NBAs and 3 All-Star games.
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I understand Melo's point but I find it hard to believe considering that Jokic himself made it known that growing up Melo was his favorite player and the reason why he came into the league wearing #15 but also due to jersey size issues in his native country.
Now it's possible considering that Jokic was a second-round pick, that the Nuggets organization did not envision Nikola becoming the player he's become today (none of us did, and anybody who says they did is lying) so him wearing #15 at the time probably didn't mean much or matter to the organization because their expectations of Jokic was probably low at the time for the first few seasons and didn't see him lasting long on the roster going forward.
I would say Melo's relationship with Denver is similar to LeBron's when he left Cleveland and everybody from the organization to the city had a lot of disdain for him but the difference is that Cleveland was louder and much more vulgar with their animosity (burning jersey, angry hate letters by the owner, etc) whereas Denver (fans and management) on the other hand have been much quieter but the feeling/reception is the same.
Now it's possible considering that Jokic was a second-round pick, that the Nuggets organization did not envision Nikola becoming the player he's become today (none of us did, and anybody who says they did is lying) so him wearing #15 at the time probably didn't mean much or matter to the organization because their expectations of Jokic was probably low at the time for the first few seasons and didn't see him lasting long on the roster going forward.
I would say Melo's relationship with Denver is similar to LeBron's when he left Cleveland and everybody from the organization to the city had a lot of disdain for him but the difference is that Cleveland was louder and much more vulgar with their animosity (burning jersey, angry hate letters by the owner, etc) whereas Denver (fans and management) on the other hand have been much quieter but the feeling/reception is the same.
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You're talking about "the guy that wants to be there" as if he was involved in the trade or something and took his spot and number. He came 5 years later. And 15 was given out before him.But it does erase any allegiance or Give a fukk you can realistically expect from a team. Its not just about accomplishments (which again is one 1st rd win) its about your relationship with the team/city. This nikka left and never looked back but they supposed to go out of their way to show him respect...over a guy that actually wants to be there? Its one thing if he won a chip but you cant walk away like he did and expect a bunch of points (nikka didnt even win a scoring title there) to earn you...well...any points
Most of the retired Denver jerseys have done the same in the postseason or less, so that's irrelevant. This isn't the Lakers.
Again, if the Nuggets decided to get rid of him you wouldn't be saying this. Show me the franchises the #3 scorer gets his number given out and let's see what type of franchises those are.
It was disrespectful to let his number be available.
I wouldnt care either way but at least he'd have a point. Did all the othet Nuggets that are retired force their way out? If they did then he has a legit gripe. Aside from that he can holler at his old teammate
I think you would care because the accomplishments are the accomplishments.I wouldnt care either way but at least he'd have a point. Did all the othet Nuggets that are retired force their way out? If they did then he has a legit gripe. Aside from that he can holler at his old teammate
Again, show me the teams where the #3 scorer had his number circulated. It was disrespectful.
You didnt answer my question. What other teams do dont matter. Each team has there own prerogative. The Heat retired Jordans number. Pistons randomly retired 2 for a coach. There is no precedent here. You don't get to leave me and expect respect. Holy entitlement Batman
You didn't answer my question, which was presented first, either. Name the team that had their #3 scorer's jersey available. You don't get to do what you want with me as you please but get hot that I controlled my destiny. Holy entitlement BatmanYou didnt answer my question. What other teams do dont matter. Each team has there own prerogative. The Heat retired Jordans number. Pistons randomly retired 2 for a coach. There is no precedent here. You don't get to leave me and expect respect. Holy entitlement Batman
That has nothing to do with the Nuggets decision. They dont have to hold a number if they dont feel like it regardlessof what any othet team does. Now if the other guys THEY retired forced their way out then he has a point. You got that info?You didn't answer my question, which was presented first, either. Name the team that had their #3 scorer's jersey available. You don't get to do what you want with me as you please but get hot that I controlled my destiny. Holy entitlement Batman
It has quite a bit to do with the Nuggets decision. Now again
You got that info?You didn't answer my question, which was presented first, either. Name the team that had their #3 scorer's jersey available. You don't get to do what you want with me as you please but get hot that I controlled my destiny. Holy entitlement Batman
Nurkic was supposed to be their starting center, not Jokic.
