Mel Kiper suggests Two High Coverage be outlawed so NFL avoids becoming boring to watch.

[The_Sheff]

I agree. If you become a below replacement level hitter because they put the SS in shallow right field, you are not good enough to be in the majors.

The issue is that damn near every pitcher is throwing 95 plus with insane spin. And once the starter gets tired they bringing in a supply of relievers throwing even harder. At that speed it's extremely difficult to adjust your swing and do things like "go the other way".

So everyone just swings for the fences now. So if the batter only has one swing the computer can reliably predict where balls will go based on the hitter and the pitchers stuff. You then put 3 infielders on the favored side of the field and batting averages plummet.


Back in the day pitchers didn't throw as hard with that much spin because they didn't want to blown out their arms. Pitchers now are having two Tommy John's and coming back still throwing 99. shyt is insane.

 

[yseJ]

this is the type of nonsense only someone who is both incompetent and crazy such as mel kiper would suggest

five years ago there were literally dozens of articles how tampa cover 2 was dead and buried because soft zone couldnt hold QBs who methodically drive down the field

and now suddenly it needs to be banned



all two deep safeties does is prevent explosive plays such as gos posts and double moves that are based on QBs/OCs identifying and exploiting one-on-one coverage

football is a cat and mouse game. QBS got super mobile and generally having great arms. run game became an afterthought.

defenses said fukk that, lets see how you can beat us consistently underneath short passing and running the ball.

 

[Copy Ninja]

This is a great point. I think it's also coaching not understanding how to actually coach. Getting all of those young OCs with not a lot of experience as a HC seems to have a ton of drawbacks.

Even the young OCs should know defense and know how to attack it. I just think that a lot of QBs right now can't make this throw. I was watching the Jags, and even though Lawrence has the physical tools and has a strong arm, dude's accuracy is not very good. You go down the line of all the starting QBs and majority of them are not very accurate or they don't have the skill to anticipate where the open window is. You throw it down the middle and if you're not accurate it's gonna be picked off. You would never run this defense against someone like Peyton, Brady, or Brees. They would eat this up.

 

[chiefdogg]

Ain’t Nobody “teaching” in the pros. Who has time for that week in week out? Offensive lineman are no longer maulers coming out of these college spread offenses so what you are seeing is reflection of that.

Perfect example would be my Chicago Bears O-line the last couple of years.

 

[Bigwhite2498]

This is a great point. I think it's also coaching not understanding how to actually coach. Getting all of those young OCs with not a lot of experience as a HC seems to have a ton of drawbacks.

They don’t call the plays because the lines don’t hold up and the vast majority of gms have jags at TE so nobody is threatened enough to even worry about the tight end

 

[Bigwhite2498]

Even the young OCs should know defense and know how to attack it. I just think that a lot of QBs right now can't make this throw. I was watching the Jags, and even though Lawrence has the physical tools and has a strong arm, dude's accuracy is not very good. You go down the line of all the starting QBs and majority of them are not very accurate or they don't have the skill to anticipate where the open window is. You throw it down the middle and if you're not accurate it's gonna be picked off. You would never run this defense against someone like Peyton, Brady, or Brees. They would eat this up.

They can make the throw they just don’t have the personnel to do the things needs to beat 2 high safeties. Plus 2 high safeties can be confusing for qbs especially nowadays that college football is so one read and spread out

 

[mozichrome]

Mel Kiper provided a hot take and got the nfl world mad at him

 

[Koapa]

This is why the running back position needs it's own pay scale.

That position has always been important to an offense.

 

[NYC Rebel]

This is why the running back position needs it's own pay scale.

That position has always been important to an offense.

It’s going to make a comeback

 

[Art Barr]

More covert halls hall style racism to limit the bElle back. Which are predominantly black players. Plus limit the idea of a black player at rnb being a league, team and public leader as well.

shyt is covert systemic racism perpetrated by old halls hall semantis in business. Used in gale to Walter to try to not pay them according to their draw.


Speak out against this covert style racism.


Art Barr

 

[Phantum]

60 yard bombs gonna be the new 3 pointer



Let it fly

 

[Art Barr]

It’s going to make a comeback

It should.

Yet there is a systemic racist agenda and plan in place. That i do not see them abandoning.

Just like the implied extinction of rhe dribble drive mid range player to big in the nba.

It is systemic to create this white boi luxury country club aesthetic.
Which is lower in skill and racially motivated.


Art Barr

 

[threattonature]

That Dominique Foxworth video posted early in the thread does a much better breakdown. It's a combo of factors that's giving offenses fits. Teams are doing a much better job of disguising coverages or switching their bases right before the snap. That causes QBs to now have to read the defense post-snap instead of pre-snap. Add in bad offensive lines and that leaves a much tighter window for the QB to be able to make a read and pick apart that defense. Plus there are different variations of 2 deep zones so people just saying throw it to a certain area are wrong as well. QB has to read if they are passing off coverages within the zone or playing a hard zone. Some fake man coverage or press coverage before settling into their zones. Pre snap movement by the offense will help expose some of that but that'll be hard for some QBs, especially as the D fakes blitzes and they have to make the line adjustments on top of reading the D.

I'm actually curious if we see more teams run hurry up more often to make it harder for defenses to be as cute with the pre-snap shifting and force the Ds to be in more of a consistent base package.

 

[MostReal]

It’s very beatable but OL play is terrible, DL are too good now, and QBs are more likely to bail out now and tuck that shyt and run

the Run game is supposed to dictate coverage but since the NFL has minimized the Half Back's importance, teams just run 2 deep. They should blame themselves for abandoning the importance of the run game.

 

[MostReal]

guarantee this type of philosophy will bring one of them safeties down.