MCU is boring asf right now

[Bryan Danielson]

I don’t even know what’s going on in here

 

[Won Won]

How bout i just cont. posting because im not gonna provides the answers since you already have them and want to play dumb?

So, nah

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

It's not even a fair comparison, phase 1 consist of 5-6 films, phase 4 is like 25 total projects between TV/Film and we still havent seen everything. Marvel is on another level of pushing content right now and it's why some of you feel the way you feel

It's at the point now that if you don't like it...then don't watch it. When I was a kid I was only checking for X Men and Spider Man, I wasn't going out My way to check for inhumans and x factor

The only 2 projects I found boring in phase 4 were eternals and the falcon n winter soldier (which ima give a 2nd rewatch). Everything else I've thoroughly enjoyed and you can definitely see them building to something greater whether it's multiversal fukkery with Kang, thunderbolts, young avengers, secret invasion, and secret wars.

And again, we still have X Men, F4, Dr Doom, Deadpool and Blade on the way.

This ain't the same Marvel Studios from 2008 who were pulling themselves out of bankruptcy with the infinity saga. This is marvel studios $25 billion dollars later providing us with a shytload of content. And guess what? They rarely miss when you look at the big picture

The problem in here is you guys are putting those "misses" on a pedestal and using it to prophecise some kind of downfall saying it's over.

You’re right, it’s only year two of phase 4. It seems like a lot longer since they dropping so much content. In another phase, we’d only be on movie 1 or 2. Instead we are 5 shows and 4 movies in and it’s not even the end of 2022 yet.


I don’t agree on the ratio of good content. TO ME. Dr strange and spidey were the only top tier movies. The rest were meeeh. Some were downright bad.

The problem is, they did just have the phase of all phases RIGHT before this. The best actors, the best characters (that they had), dope movies, and every show was great. There isn’t a single show on Disney that is better than any of the Netflix shows. Maybe with the white boy.

I t’s like we are getting 8 more iron fist shows instead of 8 more DD. We are getting 4 more Ironman 3s, than 4 more winter soldiers. They are watering down with all this content. It’s just not up to par from what we just saw. And they are about to start announcing phase 5 movies/shows this year. So really how much longer do they have to get it on track?

 

[SunZoo]

bring back the ogs

Not til Secret Wars.

It's not even a fair comparison, phase 1 consist of 5-6 films, phase 4 is like 25 total projects between TV/Film and we still havent seen everything. Marvel is on another level of pushing content right now and it's why some of you feel the way you feel

It's at the point now that if you don't like it...then don't watch it. When I was a kid I was only checking for X Men and Spider Man, I wasn't going out My way to check for inhumans and x factor

The only 2 projects I found boring in phase 4 were eternals and the falcon n winter soldier (which ima give a 2nd rewatch). Everything else I've thoroughly enjoyed and you can definitely see them building to something greater whether it's multiversal fukkery with Kang, thunderbolts, young avengers, secret invasion, and secret wars.

And again, we still have X Men, F4, Dr Doom, Deadpool and Blade on the way.

This ain't the same Marvel Studios from 2008 who were pulling themselves out of bankruptcy with the infinity saga. This is marvel studios $25 billion dollars later providing us with a shytload of content. And guess what? They rarely miss when you look at the big picture

The problem in here is you guys are putting those "misses" on a pedestal and using it to prophecise some kind of downfall saying it's over.

When they could just stop watching.....



This isn't a case of sticking around, hoping something ends up being an exception to the rule (like DC), you know what you'e getting with Marvel Studios for the most part, Those that think the Infinity Saga should have ended the whole shyt, that it's boring, too much ect...have no reason to stick around consuming the shyt besides to complain.

I haven't seen a Fast & Furious movie since the second one honestly. I might have seen clips or parts of the later movies just on somewhere but I have not engaged that franchise in a long, long while and don't intend to any time soon. I'll be glad when Marvel fans who are burnt out actually burn tf out.

 

[Uptown WaYo87]

You’re right, it’s only year two of phase 4. It seems like a lot longer since they dropping so much content. In another phase, we’d only be on movie 1 or 2. Instead we are 5 shows and 4 movies in and it’s not even the end of 2022 yet.


I don’t agree on the ratio of good content. TO ME. Dr strange and spidey were the only top tier movies. The rest were meeeh. Some were downright bad.

The problem is, they did just have the phase of all phases RIGHT before this. The best actors, the best characters (that they had), dope movies, and every show was great. There isn’t a single show on Disney that is better than any of the Netflix shows. Maybe with the white boy.

I t’s like we are getting 8 more iron fist shows instead of 8 more DD. We are getting 4 more Ironman 3s, than 4 more winter soldiers. They are watering down with all this content. It’s just not up to par from what we just saw. And they are about to start announcing phase 5 movies/shows this year. So really how much longer do they have to get it on track?

I only saw Jessica Jones s1, first 2 seasons of daredevil, Luke cage season 1 and half of iron fist so I can't speak about much else but I don't think any of them had the quality/budget of a loki, wandavision, Ms marvel, moon knight etc. I know they had great writing/storyline that felt more grounded but they also had the luxury of a longer episode count per season. The Disney + shows are movie quality compared to the Netflix shows at least thats how I remember them

There's a lot coming this phase man, from Namor, Kang, Adam Warlock, The High Evolutionary, and Dr Doom. This shyt could go anywhere but I think it's all going to tie into incursions with the next big avenger movie being announced at comic con. I think everything we are seeing is going to tie into it somehow to shape what the the future of the MCU will look like

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

'just be patient guys '

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Not til Secret Wars.


When they could just stop watching.....



This isn't a case of sticking around, hoping something ends up being an exception to the rule (like DC), you know what you'e getting with Marvel Studios for the most part, Those that think the Infinity Saga should have ended the whole shyt, that it's boring, too much ect...have no reason to stick around consuming the shyt besides to complain.

I haven't seen a Fast & Furious movie since the second one honestly. I might have seen clips or parts of the later movies just on somewhere but I have not engaged that franchise in a long, long while and don't intend to any time soon. I'll be glad when Marvel fans who are burnt out actually burn tf out.

What? Yes it sure is a case of hit or miss. I love strange and spidey and pretty much nothing else. Others love eternals. Some hated strange. Others thought spidey was a letdown.

Yes they are all over the place and you surely don’t know what you’ll be getting when you start watching. Top tier or never watch again

I only saw Jessica Jones s1, first 2 seasons of daredevil, Luke cage season 1 and half of iron fist so I can't speak about much else but I don't think any of them had the quality/budget of a loki, wandavision, Ms marvel, moon knight etc. I know they had great writing/storyline that felt more grounded but they also had the luxury of a longer episode count per season. The Disney + shows are movie quality compared to the Netflix shows at least thats how I remember them

There's a lot coming this phase man, from Namor, Kang, Adam Warlock, The High Evolutionary, and Dr Doom. This shyt could go anywhere but I think it's all going to tie into incursions with the next big avenger movie being announced at comic con. I think everything we are seeing is going to tie into it somehow to shape what the the future of the MCU will look like

I think you really hit on what the issue is. You said Netflix was grounded and had less budget but way better writing and acting.

Well I guess what we expected when they got everyone back plus their own streaming service, was big budgets AND great writing AND great acting. We thought they’d combine this stuff and make it better. We thought phase 4 was going to be above phase 3 and keep on rising up. I mean why not. They got endless money and their own platform.

Why is Netflix making better shows? When Disney puts out DD, if it’s not even better than the Netflix one, then what was the point as a fan to root for this?

 

[SunZoo]

What? Yes it sure is a case of hit or miss. I love strange and spidey and pretty much nothing else. Others love eternals. Some hated strange. Others thought spidey was a letdown.

Yes they are all over the place and you surely don’t know what you’ll be getting when you start watching. Top tier or never watch again

I don't think the projects being more polarizing is a bad thing, it's natural for there not to be as much overlap in who's enjoying what as they expand.

One of the man complaints about the MCU was the formula, how things were too safe, lacked varience, only made to set up the next movie ect. What's changed is them trying to answer those criticisms and fill in the gaps, which I understand can be jarring. With Eternals I damn near got exactly the movie I was expecting and wanted to see. Meanwhile, a lot of people were like, where's the guardians??, not connected to the mcu enough, what's this setting up?!?!?



Truth is, Marvel has been 'hit or miss' to a to a degree their whole tenure. It's just that their baseline quality conytol is on point enough that you don't have to love everything they do to enjoy it. Hawkeye is easily their worst Disney+ show yet still fun to watch. Antman 1 wasn't top tier anything, still a dope flick.

I think you really hit on what the issue is. You said Netflix was grounded and had less budget but way better writing and acting.

Well I guess what we expected when they got everyone back plus their own streaming service, was big budgets AND great writing AND great acting. We thought they’d combine this stuff and make it better. We thought phase 4 was going to be above phase 3 and keep on rising up. I mean why not. They got endless money and their own platform.

Why is Netflix making better shows? When Disney puts out DD, if it’s not even better than the Netflix one, then what was the point as a fan to root for this?

I liked all of the Netflix shows besides IF. JJ season 1 and 3, Luke Cage season 2 are underrated and of course DD is awesome. But there was not way better acting in any of that shyt than in WandaVision, at all. I'd say Loki and Moon Knight had better acting as well.

The writing I agree with because all I kept thinking about is how much better Hawkeye would have been on Netflix. F&TWS suffered a lot because writing (not a fan of Spellman, and he's doing Cap 4 apparently) and as much as I want it to be succesful, making a DD show that's going to ultimately be compared to the Netflix series feels like set up for failure unless Disney is going to commit to exapnding what niches and demos they make stuff for. Moon Knight was progress but not enough to make room for what a DD should be.

That cover all bases writing works for the films, not so much for TV.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

link me to these industry insiders that were disappointed by Dr strange 2 because it didn't live up to their "expectations". Quick Google search comes up with nothing of the sort

Shang chi was a great movie with a 91% RT score. Made 400 million even though it was one of first theater exclusive movies post pandemic. Eternals was trash, I won't say shyt about that. They tried, they failed. But they kept the ball rolling after that

This whole thread is literally dudes praying for Marvels downfall. shyt is pathetic

So i see here that you and the other stan just ignored the information that others already posted in here. That's the problems with stans. They want the info..it's presented... and then you move the goalposts or tryna spin the convo into some weird "they are praying against us " bullsh-t that even you don't believe..

The difference between me and you and the other guy whose also an MCU stan is that when the MCU is on a roll it's one of my favorite series of movies and content to watch... but when they got movies doing 40% on RT and flopping at the box office or shows with poor viewing numbers.. i'm also gonna discuss that because more often than not there's a reason for it..

i want the content to be good while you just want to be happy with whatever Do you then..

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

i just got done saying im enjoying Ms. Marvel a lot and you got weirdos tryna say "you want MCU to fail" Try comprehending what you read.

You're unhealthy.

 

[Uptown WaYo87]

So i see here that you and the other stan just ignored the information that others already posted in here. That's the problems with stans. They want the info..it's presented... and then you move the goalposts or tryna spin the convo into some weird "they are praying against us " bullsh-t that even you don't believe..

The difference between me and you and the other guy whose also an MCU stan is that when the MCU is on a roll it's one of my favorite series of movies and content to watch... but when they got movies doing 40% on RT and flopping at the box office or shows with poor viewing numbers.. i'm also gonna discuss that because more often than not there's a reason for it..

i want the content to be good while you just want to be happy with whatever Do you then..

do you have the links or not , I've gone back a few pages and ain't see shyt

 

[LiquidMasterSwords]

I've only read the last 2 pages but I seriously enjoy the D+ shows more than the Netflix shows. Daredevil would be the only exception but even he was spinning his wheels with filler content just to make it to 12-13 episodes. Oh and season 1 of Jessica Jones was fire too.

I'm enjoying Phase 4 a lot. Loki was amazing! WandaVision was amazing too. I just enjoy spending more time with these characters. Like someone mentioned above. The acting has been phenomenal. We getting mulitiverse content and incursions. People were hard on Black Widow and Eternals but I fukked with it. Can't wait for Thor: Love & Thunder.

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

I think they're setting alot of pieces together and the payoff will be big. They are definitely setting up for Young Avengers, X-Men and Fantastic 4. Also Kang The Conqueror being the main villain.

 

[SunZoo]

I think they're setting alot of pieces together and the payoff will be big. They are definitely setting up for Young Avengers, X-Men and Fantastic 4. Also Kang The Conqueror being the main villain.

What I get worried about is Marvel Studios trying to balance the presence of Kang and Doom at the same time. I know it can be done but I don't know what it looks like.

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

What I get worried about is Marvel Studios trying to balance the presence of Kang and Doom at the same time. I know it can be done but I don't know what it looks like.

I read an article this morning about why Kang wasn't in Doctor strange 2 and it basically said the directors didn't want to take the focus off Wanda being the main villain. Now that her arc is over I hope Kang is the villain for the MCU overall while Doom is the primary villain for Fantastic 4.