Mavs .5 game out of playoffs, chose to tank to maybe keep a fringe top 10 pick

[malbaker86]

People really acting like a fringe top 10 pick is a game changer

Yea they’re better off with it than without, but this ain’t the NFL a pick around the 8-10 range the odds drop dramatically to get a ceiling raising player. For kicks n giggles look at picks 8-10 the last few years

2015- Stanley Johnson, Kaminsky, Winslow
2016- Chriss, Poetl, Maker

2017- Ntilikina- their tank commander tonight , DSJ- Luka’s first failed co-D , Zach Collins

2018- Sexton, Knox, Bridges
2019- Jaxson Hayes, Rui, cam reddish
2020- Obi, Advija, Jalen smith

That’s 1 out of 18 players that can be called a difference maker 2 if you wanna count Poetl. Most of these nggas aren’t even making their 2nd contract with the team.

Dallas is completely fukked

Low key Zach Collins is solid for my Spurs, certainly not top 10 worthy, bruh is just frustratingly inconsistent but the talent is there

 

[Osmosis]

It's hard to believe that this the same Mavericks organization that had that 2011 run.

Crazy things happen when you get to the play-offs and your team goes nuclear. If anybody knows that it's probably Luka and Kidd.

Kyrie and Luka going nuclear puts a lot of teams away. Then you got other nuclear players like Christian Wood. Not to mention all the other factors like the potential injuries that may occur to your rivals and the potential bad match-ups that clear the team you have a bad match-up with. You win one more to get the play-in. Then a couple more to make the play-offs. Grab another game 1 or game 2 on the road and next thing you know you're in the WCF.

Draft pick argument is stupid. In the NBA, players drafted in the top 15 have about the same championship win rate as players drafted 15-30. Raptors didn't even have a top 10/lottery player on their team when they won.

Bottom line they sold right at the doorstep without even giving themselves an opportunity. That's weak and makes the league look weak.

Winning two road play-in games and then multiple playoff series against superior teams with HCA is just not realistic. The Mavs didn't even control their own destiny, they could have won their final two games and still miss the play-in because OKC is facing a Memphis team that is going to rest all of their core players.

A lottery pick is 100% more valuable than putting all of your eggs in the play-in basket when another team controls your fate. That pick is the biggest asset they have in improving the team and surrounding Luka/Kyrie with adequate support pieces. The Mavs need to put a playoff contender around Luka next season and that pick presents the best opportunity to do so. It has more trade value than any Mav besides Luka. No GM is prioritizing a less than 5% chance of making the playoffs over a lottery pick.

 

[FAH1223]

Mavs need to use that pick on a wing. Or a big.

That Porzingis trade keeps on giving

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Low key Zach Collins is solid for my Spurs, certainly not top 10 worthy, bruh is just frustratingly inconsistent but the talent is there

The talent is there. He just can't stay healthy enough to show it.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

What era of the NBA do you think shyt 100x worse than this didn't occur?


Teams have tanked for entire seasons, purposely fielded uncompetitive teams cause they didn't feel like paying salaries that year, sold HOF draft picks to other squads for completely non-basketball considerations.....Mavs competed hard for 80 games then dropped TWO games when they had less than 1% chance of making the playoffs and reactionaries are acting like the sky is falling and calling for the draft pick to be taken lol.

Sixers are a title contender right now cause they did this like 328 games in a row lol.

People forget the tank job that OKC pulled the 2nd half of the season a couple of years ago eventhough they were still in playoff contention at the time. I think at one point they had lost like 20 of 21 games.

 

[THE 101]

If the NBA scriptwriters are on their game they'll book a Luka/Trae trade....the 2018 draft saga continues

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I watch the games.

Breh, I challenged you to post three comments where you had EVER shown basketball knowledge and you couldn't do it. You just post catch phases.

You just tried to defend Luka solely based on his stat line and said that alone was enough. But you said Bron's stats are meaningless. Can't have it both ways.

LeBron James does not inpact winning more than Luka and hasn't in years. Luka has overachieved throughout his career and never had a Anthony Davis to cover for his trash defense nor did he require elite shooters and bigs to clear the paint.

Bron has a title in that time period, while Luka has won just 1.5 playoff series in five years and that was with a team good enough they were already up 2-1 in the 1st round before Luka even started playing.

Bron not only has a better record than Luka in three of the last four years, his record this year with NO AD AND NO REEVES is better than Luka's record all season. That rosters were straight trash and he single-handedly kept the Lakers alive. How is that, if you think he needs shooters and bigs yet he had zero of either during that stretch?

Bron is 8-2 since the trade deadline and kept the team alive before that. Your claim that he didn't impact winning is straight ignorant. Whether 38yo Bron is better than prime Luka is a fair argument, but you trying to claim they belong on opposite ends of the spectrum and that's just stupid.

 

[Braman]

Winning two road play-in games and then multiple playoff series against superior teams with HCA is just not realistic.

This is probably my biggest pet peeve in how folk talk sports. A team comes out of nowhere to be good and all of a sudden people treat them as a juggernaut

I say that bc imagine thinking that Dallas with Luka and kyrie would be deemed a miracle to beat the teanie bopper thunder and a Zion-less Nola

 

[Braman]

No he won’t, they’re gonna get the #9 pick










Smfh @ the nggas who did not understand star players dont gaf about a draft pick. This did serious damage

 

[duckbutta]

He just averages 33/9/8, he is the definition of a superstar player and he has carried mediocre to bad rosters for years. They've actually overachieved. but he needs the right pieces around him like another superstar to actually win. His defense and stamina has to improve.

Those are usage rate numbers. They only exist because he has the ball the whole game. He don't average 33 cause he that good, he average 33 cause he shoots more than anyone on a per game bases.

Overachieved? They went from the WCF to lottery in one year. How is that overachieving?

The mavs are a bad team with a one way chucker masquerading as a "superstar" player. They are exactly the team they are supposed to be. Bad.

 

[who_better_than_me]

what do they plan to do about Wood?

 

[hitmonlee]

That lottery pick is more important when it comes to improving their team. They can trading it for some 3 and d dudes. They really miss DFS

Lol no they don’t. He’s a slightly above average defender that can’t dribble and is ok shooyer

Without Luka passing him the ball he shooting 31 percent from 3 in Brooklyn

 

[IIVI]

This is probably my biggest pet peeve in how folk talk sports. A team comes out of nowhere to be good and all of a sudden people treat them as a juggernaut

I say that bc imagine thinking that Dallas with Luka and kyrie would be deemed a miracle to beat the teanie bopper thunder and a Zion-less Nola

Exactly. Even Luka said he wants to compete even if they have the slightest chances of winning.

So let's not compete, wasting everyone's effort this year to get this far and piss off a top 5-10 player in the league so you can get some 20 year-old kid that 9 other teams passed on in the draft?

I think there's a big difference when it comes to mentality that star players have vs the fans. This is basically like telling your top dog: "Yeah the big difference maker for this team's future chances is going to be a kid we're eyeing in the draft with the #10 pick, so let's throw away our shot this year (that everyone grinded for and took criticism over) and waste everyone's effort so we can draft Jordan Hawkins or Gradey dikk."

You're basically telling everyone the grand reward for busting your ass for the season is the top #10 draft pick - not a chance to shut down some young play-off team or upset another top seed. Pretty sure they rubbed dude the wrong way with that decision.

 

[who_better_than_me]

Lol no they don’t. He’s a slightly above average defender that can’t dribble and is ok shooyer

Without Luka passing him the ball he shooting 31 percent from 3 in Brooklyn

He was very complimentary to Lukas playing style. Fit is important and he did a lot to the little things and dirty work for that’s Mavs squad.

 

[Braman]

what do they plan to do about Wood?

He score too much he gotta go

They’re ideal squad is Luka, ONE other ball handler, and 8 nggas with long arms who can shoot

That lottery pick is more important when it comes to improving their team. They can trading it for some 3 and d dudes. They really miss DFS

They got people fooled